Laning against Non-Resource/Energy Champs is Oppressive.

Souijinn·6/2/2015, 9:42:29 AM·2 votes·730 views

Mid laning against a Lux when she is using her E to harass is something that most players hate, the only upside to laning against her is that at some point, you know she'll have to stop since she has a mana cost. And because Mana regen is not quick, you know its going to be some time until she'll think about using it again.

Mid laning against a Katarina or a Zed however, is frustrating and - key word - Oppressive. Because these characters are not gated by mana costs and Energy regens at a much MUCH faster rate, its easy to see that no matter how many times they fail to hit you with an ability, they are sure to do it again. And again, and AGAIN. And that is Oppressive.

Playing characters who use mana as a resource and going against a Zed/Kat/Yas is a one sided laning phase that isn't centered around making "plays" or well executed strategies. It more or less becomes an unfair dodge ball game.

Its definitely not just the fact that Mana is becoming a hindrance, but the fact that Mana is not a hindrance to those champs is what makes mid laning much less appealing as a standard AP Caster. Building to have a good pool of sustainable mana puts damage on hold and vice versa. You'll stick around more but less damage or more damage, but you'll be useless after a rotation or two.

Resourceless champs get to cut right to the chase. Damage of their choice and, if they are able to use it well, then Life Steal or Spell Vamp. The items that offer both stats are particularly cheap for what they offer, and they do a good job at making harass seem pointless while laning.

Tl;dr - Champs with no costs have less necessary stats needed to build. Mana overall is problematic now which leads to Oppressive Mid Laning.

6 Comments

NotDevan6/2/2015, 9:49:23 AM2 votes

But they're balanced in other ways, via long cooldowns, lower utility, less safety, less damage, lack of wave clear, etc.

Oh yeah. Katarina Riven Zed

Arsames6/2/2015, 12:11:20 PM2 votes

gitgud or cry some more, see if we care. Mechonix > all.

Scarlet Firefly6/2/2015, 12:36:52 PM2 votes

Wait a minute...People still complain about Zed in this tank meta? If he is left behind in lane, he is useless even in the previous assassin meta, let alone now with top and jungle being tanky and lots of peel. And don't forget his recent nerf on his R. Leave Zed alone please, I'm not good with him, but I enjoy playing with him, and also I love when a skilled enemy Zed and I go toe to toe.

Kat on the other hand, just got a nerf on her E, it's damage and Ap ratios were lowered. So let's wait and see how it turns out.

zane yalgir6/2/2015, 10:02:51 AM1 votes

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Mid laning against a Lux when she is using her E to harass is something that most players hate, the only upside to laning against her is that at some point, you know she'll have to stop since she has a mana cost. And because Mana regen is not quick, you know its going to be some time until she'll think about using it again.

Mid laning against a Katarina or a Zed however, is frustrating and - key word - Oppressive. Because these characters are not gated by mana costs and Energy regens at a much MUCH faster rate, its easy to see that no matter how many times they fail to hit you with an ability, they are sure to do it again. And again, and AGAIN. And that is Oppressive.

Playing characters who use mana as a resource and going against a Zed/Kat/Yas is a one sided laning phase that isn't centered around making "plays" or well executed strategies. It more or less becomes an unfair dodge ball game.

Its definitely not just the fact that Mana is becoming a hindrance, but the fact that Mana is not a hindrance to those champs is what makes mid laning much less appealing as a standard AP Caster. Building to have a good pool of sustainable mana puts damage on hold and vice versa. You'll stick around more but less damage or more damage, but you'll be useless after a rotation or two.

Resourceless champs get to cut right to the chase. Damage of their choice and, if they are able to use it well, then Life Steal or Spell Vamp. The items that offer both stats are particularly cheap for what they offer, and they do a good job at making harass seem pointless while laning.

Tl;dr - Champs with no costs have less necessary stats needed to build. Mana overall is problematic now which leads to Oppressive Mid Laning.

zeds abilities them self are the problem kata is just cancer for the same reason riven is

LeeSin isnt as horrible as zed becuase hes not a burst assassin though he can do good brust hes usually build bruiser

for zed the biggest problem ive seen from him is his r its allows you to kill then uses a bs grade flash and walk away laughing