Kalista's Rend needs to not effect baron and Dragon like it currently does.

Brorelia·2/5/2015, 5:08:47 AM·5 votes·1,770 views

I have literally seen it do 1000+ damage when activated making there be no chance for a jungler to ever use smite. It is like having a way to make sure a baron can never be stolen that is more reliable then a nunu.

Why is this ability not at least limited to doing something like 200 damage to neutral monsters much like say vayne's silver bolts is limited against neutral monsters or Elise's Q.

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deadlychuck2/5/2015, 5:53:19 AM2 votes

The way riot needs to nerf this mechanic is by reducing the damage of each stack against baron and dragon by 5% for each stack. Additive. So the first stack of E will deal (at rank 5) 32+(30% AD), the next spear will deal (32+(30% AD)) + .95(32+(30% AD)) ... + (1-.05n)(32+30% AD). The stacks can continue to stack, but after 20 stack they will not continue to increase the damage of the subsequent E. It would mean that the damage she can do to baron and dragon increase as she gets more AD, but it would not be limitless.

the full equation is i think... sum(seq((1-.05n)(32+30% AD))) from 1 to inf

I haven't done the math yet to find how AD would scale exactly, but at a guess i think it'd be somewhere between 300-400% AD, i'll edit the post with the calculations later, i'm gunna get some rest, now got a physics exam in the morning.

SlytherinUmbreon2/5/2015, 5:33:41 AM2 votes

And now, Nunu and Kalista will be on the same team.

Erockandroll2/5/2015, 5:22:41 AM1 votes

Ok, so she has some decent neutral objective control. maybe to compensate for the fact that these stacks have no effect on turrets, giving her poor sieging potential as she has no innate AD or AS steroid that affects them.

This being said, should she be good at taking neutral Objectives? And in all honesty I can't actually answer this question. But I would disagree with the idea that this would completely invalidate the Jungler. It takes some work to actually get that level of Damage on her rend stacked up.

Reynard the ƒox2/5/2015, 5:13:56 AM1 votes

It should have a cap on champions too, tbh. Say, 5 spears per target. Of course that would be a nerf, so to compensate lets give her a minor buff. Perhaps if she successfully detonates 5 stacks on a target, the next basic attack applies 2 spears. I'm no professional game designer, that's just something I came up with on the fly.

Stonington2/5/2015, 6:10:58 AM1 votes

Cop said in an interview he can smite for like 2500. It should simply have a cap for Dragon and Baron. An adc should not be able to outsmite a Cho Gath ult or Nunu consume.

Arcade Andrew2/5/2015, 5:24:11 AM1 votes

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I have literally seen it do 1000+ damage when activated making there be no chance for a jungler to ever use smite. It is like having a way to make sure a baron can never be stolen that is more reliable then a nunu.

Why is this ability not at least limited to doing something like 200 damage to neutral monsters much like say vayne's silver bolts is limited against neutral monsters or Elise's Q.

Maybe rito finally decided they needed something that can contest a nunu chomp?

Brorelia2/5/2015, 5:16:57 AM1 votes

She does not need a buff.

If anything she needs a nerf but that is a different conversation for champion on champion damage.

Either way she should not have the means to do more damage through an ability to neutral monsters then smite like she currently can.