Mordes move speed

Slack King··4 votes·727 views

Now that you nerfed item 3009 putting morde in an even tougher spot when it comes to actually getting near someone without poppin flash, would you mind giving him like 5 more movespeed. I have enough issues fighting everyone as they dance around the map as it is. Show a lil love

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GrievousFetus1 votes

Are you also using StormRaider's Surge?

Slack King2 votes

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Are you also using StormRaider's Surge?

of course good sir, but i need to make contact with said enemy first. Which isnt bad early on, but as the game moves on the movespeed gap increases

GrievousFetus1 votes

Okay, I wanted to clear that up first because I've seen lots of grasp and DFT Mordekaisers get bodied and don't know why.

That said, Mordekaiser's kit is all damage. He has 4 high damage abilities, no CC, no mobility, and very limited utility (outside of his ultimate ghost as a pushing/objective taking force of course). He's very strong in lane and his all ins are absolutely deadly.

I obviously can't speak on behalf of Riot, but League is a team game, and a champion who's an absolute monster in the middle of a fight but has no means of getting into the middle of a fight is going to be depedent on his team to initiate. If Mordekaiser had the mobility and initiation to get into range in combination with the sort of damage to 2v1 (or more if ahead) his kit might have too few weaknesses.

Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt though, I play a lot of Morde with a high degree of success but #bronzelife.

Slack King1 votes

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Okay, I wanted to clear that up first because I've seen lots of grasp and DFT Mordekaisers get bodied and don't know why.

That said, Mordekaiser's kit is all damage. He has 4 high damage abilities, no CC, no mobility, and very limited utility (outside of his ultimate ghost as a pushing/objective taking force of course). He's very strong in lane and his all ins are absolutely deadly.

I obviously can't speak on behalf of Riot, but League is a team game, and a champion who's an absolute monster in the middle of a fight but has no means of getting into the middle of a fight is going to be depedent on his team to initiate. If Mordekaiser had the mobility and initiation to get into range in combination with the sort of damage to 2v1 (or more if ahead) his kit might have too few weaknesses.

Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt though, I play a lot of Morde with a high degree of success but #bronzelife.

I have plenty of success pushing through gold with Morde but just because I can do ok with Morde, doesnt mean that he is strong. Most of my success comes from the fact no one sees him.

Unless I start running movespeed quints to make up for the fact everyone runs faster with item 1001 , than him in item 3009. Mixed with the fact item 3285 would help but there are much more important items on his to do list. Running summoner 6 is just a cant do because I lose summoner 4 since I cant give up summoner 12 or I lose dragon control/bot lane support.

GigglesO1 votes

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Okay, I wanted to clear that up first because I've seen lots of grasp and DFT Mordekaisers get bodied and don't know why.

That said, Mordekaiser's kit is all damage. He has 4 high damage abilities, no CC, no mobility, and very limited utility (outside of his ultimate ghost as a pushing/objective taking force of course). He's very strong in lane and his all ins are absolutely deadly.

I obviously can't speak on behalf of Riot, but League is a team game, and a champion who's an absolute monster in the middle of a fight but has no means of getting into the middle of a fight is going to be depedent on his team to initiate. If Mordekaiser had the mobility and initiation to get into range in combination with the sort of damage to 2v1 (or more if ahead) his kit might have too few weaknesses.

Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt though, I play a lot of Morde with a high degree of success but #bronzelife.

Except that he isn't even allowed to properly use his W unless he has a teammate.

Slack King2 votes

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Except that he isn't even allowed to properly use his W unless he has a teammate.

Wish I could pull a LeeSin Jax Katarina and just W a ward for the aoe dmg

GigglesO1 votes

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Wish I could pull a LeeSin Jax Katarina and just W a ward for the aoe dmg

Yea, but this is why they don't allow that... I mean I really want to see morde get 5 more ms... but they just won't allow it, because when he goes right, he goes super right.

I was fighting 1v4 with dragon at the end.

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Slack King2 votes

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Yea, but this is why they don't allow that... I mean I really want to see morde get 5 more ms... but they just won't allow it, because when he goes right, he goes super right.

I was fighting 1v4 with dragon at the end.

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http://plays.tv/s/KpInL10pq-DA Well I understand that, but they just nerfeditem 3009 because theyre too good, which puts even more pressure on morde. Hell I even know they almost never compensate chamions when they nerf items, that ends up hurting the non-meta champs and pushing them even further down into the crap tier. Yet it would be nice for them to be like hey, morde is pretty crap as is lets give him a little love.

Also I dont feel that the argument of "When a champion gets rolling they become unstoppable" That fits almost any champion. Yet all those champions dont have Mordes handicap to fight against

GigglesO1 votes

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Also I dont feel that the argument of "When a champion gets rolling they become unstoppable" That fits almost any champion. Yet all those champions dont have Mordes handicap to fight against

Oh I agree, but it's morde. He isn't loved by Riot, not like LeeSin Zed Ahri Ezreal Lucian Thresh

Where they keep seeing reoccurring periods of being fotm

Slack King2 votes

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Oh I agree, but it's morde. He isn't loved by Riot, not like LeeSin Zed Ahri Ezreal Lucian Thresh

Where they keep seeing reoccurring periods of being fotm

dont forget Leblanc Ahri

GrievousFetus1 votes

That is true, even if he had the tools to initaite and catch opponents on his own he's teammate dependent regardless because he explicitly needs an ally unit. So yes, I was wrong to sate Mordekaiser with chasing power would be overpowered because he needs a teammate anyway.

Granted, Mordekaiser does have a unique quality as a champion with 1) an ability that direly requires an ally unit and 2) an ally unit he himself creates and directly controls.

GigglesO1 votes

I didn't include Leblanc because they seem to nerf her quite a bit more than the others.

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