Remember when Riot used to regularly do double IP weekends?

mrdude5410·Jan 24, 2017·32 votes·1,903 views

Pepperidge Farm Remembers

Seriously, why are these so rare now? Champions are just as expensive as ever.

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LiofaJan 24, 201712 votes

I also remember when riot was a small indie dev with a shitty dota clone that they couldn't possibly induce you to play unless it was free, or before tryn and co decided to cash out with tencent, or when they tried to tell us lowered ip gains was for our benefit, or everything hippalus has ever said period which can really all be summarized as "will this make us more money? no? then we're not doing it fuck you instead i'm gonna increase champ ip costs lower ip gains and introduce paid rng garbage to really milk the whales fuck you we're for the community".

PaladinNOJan 24, 20171 votes

Hear, hear!

Btw, on that note, have you seen some of the latest statements they have managed to make?

League of Legends content is intended to be permanent. However we want players to feel good about the content they purchase, so we developed the refund feature to give every player a solution for those rare situations where they purchase content and quickly regret it, and are sure that they will never want to use that content in the future.

-Hippalus

http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/01/ask-riot-three-refunds-10-bans/

"we want players to feel good about the content they purchase". If that were even remoterly close to the truth, then the only question is why are there now only "pay for random content"-events to be had?

The sad truth is that LoL, now a part of Tencent Holding, has come to the point where they are too big for their own good; where they can afford to shit on their players, because they know those who leave won't affect their income.

Now, last time I checked, the main source of income for a F2P game was its community; its happy community. A community who enjoyed playing the game, and thus were still happy when buying unnecessary content in the game.

Now, if said community stops buying RP, exactly how would that affect this game, I wonder? Would Tencent admit to having made mistakes along the lines? Silently revert and take a wildy different marketing direction in an attempt to regain the players trust? Let it be until the server shutdown announcement come?

The funny thing is...EVERYTIME such posts are being made, they are being outright ignored by Tencent Employees. Login or other tech issues, sure - after all, a player who can't play, can't pay either. Specific gameplay issues, sure - either to explain why something is as it is or to sort out a bug - that won't affect their income. Player behaviour, sure - if players feel mistreated, they likely won't pay if they have frequent bad experiences.

But monetary issues or complaints about the pricing or any sort of store content? SILENCE!! Always silence is their reponse. Now, I've had a number of store "accidents" myself, some even bordering on fraud. Their support have even awknowledged the issues every time - their response? "Use a refund token, or it sucks to be you!".

Fondling GemsJan 24, 20172 votes

The reason for the random content is because due to the new client they are locked into making things work in hextech crafting for now and hextech crafting wasn't made to replace things like the lunar revel shop. As they keep updating the new client we will get older types of sales back.

PaladinNOJan 24, 20171 votes

Deep down, I know this is true, but...why haven't we seen more IP content then? Or other, different sales (and I will ignore the Early sales on this - I did the math; that's a waste)?

And what about the IP purchase limits on ALL the event content? PROJECT: 1 crate per day or whatever it was? I mean, really? And what about the Snowdown sweets? Total limit of 16 purchasable for IP throughout the event. Nothing that would get you want you wanted, which was the special emotes.

They had an opportunity to make something special this Lunar Revel too, such as play quests, IP icons (yes, yes, I know they got that "bug" sorted - with refunds, not that I belive that for a second). I mean, it was ALL money, money, money!

Take a look at Lunar Revel 2014, and you'll see how it was before. http://promo.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/lunar-revel-2014/#sectionTwo

Fondling GemsJan 24, 20171 votes

I think Riot is trying to move away from group IP because there is quite a bit of public lashback at being forced to play in groups with others. I know that personally group ip boosts meant almost nothing to me because it changes nothing about how much I play. To others it felt like they were being punished for preferring to play LoL solo. Add onto this the huge outlash at dynamic queue before and being forced to play with/against premades and I think Riot is trying to put some distance between them and group rewards for good reason.

I don't know what you are talking about with Snowdown sweets, I personally got enough for both the Amumu emote and the penguin icon. I do agree the Project 1/day limitations are a bit harsh but there are limits on hextech crafting for good reason.

I know personally a month or two ago I completely got caught up in the gambling complex and threw a good 85 dollars at the screen for Hextech for 0 reason. Luckily Riot stepped in with their limits on Hextech bundles per day and cut me off part way through. I was smart enough to spend the rest on things I actually wanted. So I am guessing it is just a way of breaking people from getting caught up in gambling.

Riot has also been pushing for more consistent mid scale projects over fewer big updates like they used to do. Since they are already working on the new client, some new PBE gamemode, possibly a blood moon map skin if the video was any indication, 4 different blood moon skins right along with the 2 sewn chaos skins and doing this all shortly after the snowdown map changes and skins they are probably pretty pressed on resources. Lunar Revel isn't a huge event over in NA so it makes sense that if they had to downsize some things they would downsize that.

When you get down to it Riot can't do everything at once, they have to choose what to focus on. The more they want to work on the more people they have to hire to work on it. The more people they are hiring the more people they have to pay, so the more they have to earn to make the same profit. Especially when a game is free to play and not pay to win at all they kinda have to monetize events to keep the game running. Servers are by no means cheap, and neither is their quite large personnel force, or the computers/programs those personnel use.

PaladinNOJan 25, 20171 votes

Yes, the part about the Snowdown sweets got slightly completely cut out, thanks to an overly generous phrasing edit. My bad. :)

Well, simply put, I don't do gambling. Of any sort. Not unless the numbers are with me. To put it this way, when the Snowdown event was on, I sat with "calc" (i.e. Windows calculator) on the screen before every purchase, doing the numbers and percentages on every purchase I made, even the RP bundle I bought on event day three to be able to precisely afford all 4 icons at the end of the 4th week. Which I succeeded in doing. 0 Sweets left at the end. And pretty much 0 RP left too.

I liked the themed Snowdown chests. What I didn't like was the purchase limits on them. Effectively denying me buying as many...let me check my "LoL purchases" Excel document..."Looting Star" and "Braum's Little Helpers"-chests as I wanted. I liked the skins. The numbers were with me. I had the RP. ...But I was prohibited from buying more than 6 those particular days. Yes, I got skins worth WAY more than what I put in during this, but that's beside the point here.

I've learned now. This game has forced me to learn that: don't spend money on RP unless you absolutely "need" to. And so I got impeccable self-control on the matter, and no longer spend them RPs carelessly. Frankly, what others don't have in the gambling self-control department is none of my concern (what is the minimum age on gambling anyway - I honestly wouldn't mind if they got into trouble over it, considering a certain cough "suing culture" they got across the pond).

Sorry, it feels like I'm derailing here. I'm getting tired. I want to get back to my book now.

Point is, when there is something on offer...don't put limits on it. I judge that as "they don't want my money".

And as for the IP, I meant I want an IP sink. I own every champion, got 20 filled runepages, and am currently sitting on ~184.000 IP. With such amounts of the stuff, something purchasable for IP, but is having ridiculously low purchase limits on it, is an outright insult for those of us who have been investing heavily with the their spare time to even get to that point. As far as I care to see it, that's a sign that they don't need me to play this game anymore.

It's funny...neither of the emotions I am expressing here were even remotely present back in Season 3-4, even parts of season 5. I didn't have vast amounts of IP. I happily spent money on RP. And I enjoyed the game. Now it's the complete opposite of ALL those things! Meaning something changed along the way - and I don't really think it's me.

So what I am asking for here, and have done repeatedly: I want an IP sink. Chromas doesn't even close to cut it. Place an IP pricetag on ALL non-legacy, non-esport icons; allow for up to additional 20 runepages (as an avid ARAM player, only 20 runepages isn't really enough anyway), or make some specific icons for an insane amount of IP. At this point, I don't really care. 100.000 IP for a gold-plated icon (yes, it would have to be somewhat over the top)? Sure, when can I buy it?

Hell, if we're gonna keep this up, I'm gonna have to fire up my vertical "forum" monitor too to even fit a portion it all on the screen. xD

Well, I hope my points are coming across quite clear here. Good night. :)

Fondling GemsJan 25, 20171 votes

Just gonna say I agree and that book is amazing. Read it a good.... <insert number between 10 and 20> times now.

PaladinNOJan 25, 20171 votes

I did ask for some recommended books on these Boards once upon a time, and someone said I should read Name of the Wind and A Wise Man's Fear by Patrick Rothfuss. That person said there also were a smaller book; a side-story to those, but which was not necessary to the main story. I grabbed all 3 books anyway, just for the heck of it.

If I dig deep enough, I will likely find that post again, but it wouldn't happen to be you who recommended me those in the first place? I wouldn't be surprised if it were. ^^

Unfortunately, I did read them in the wrong order - was going away for a day, needed a book in a hurry, and just grabbed whatever was first on the shelf. Which after ~200 pages turned out to be verified as the Kingkiller Chronicle Day 2. But I still got the story in my head, so it's kinda K.

Fondling GemsJan 25, 20171 votes

While I have recommended the book before it was quite a while back so it might have been me but if so i don't remember ;P

PaladinNOJan 24, 20176 votes

Remember when they did RP sales as well? After Tencent took over, they stopped knowing what that even is: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support/aAE77dmu-are-there-going-to-be-a-rp-sale-for-this-christmas?comment=0000 EDIT: Replaced the linkety-link-link with just A link.

Annual -30% sale on Tier 3 runes during pre-season? That's gone too. Meanwhile, every event has turned into a money grab.

As far as I'm concerned, Rito Gems died when Tencent took over. But their increased size as a company lead to the death of "a game for gamers, by gamers" long before that. And now they're so big, they can easily afford to not care about their players anymore. Still not EA levels, but getting there patch by patch.

JunkοJan 24, 20176 votes

Meanwhile on EUNE

http://pa1.narvii.com/5800/4fd388f29e0960d517b250c8296024eb9d5d427d_hq.gif

KneelbeforezothJan 24, 20172 votes

because....riot. Enough said*[slayer-jinx-catface]*

DarkRitualJan 24, 20172 votes

We instead get Party IP weekends. The ICe regions recently had theirs for their All Stars team victory.

NGNL AsianJan 25, 20171 votes

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We instead get Party IP weekends. The ICe regions recently had theirs for their All Stars team victory.

i was cheering for ice but I'm in na

SohleksJan 24, 20171 votes

There should be an ip incentive for sitting down and playing a lot of games like 3 at least a day. Doing that two or three times a week should be an alternative to doing the daily win bonus every day. Because the daily win bonus is the only actual decent bonus you can get normally. Doing a ten minute bot game everyday shouldn't be the best ip source.

It would also reward people with different kinds of schedules/ playing habits.

But I guess it would encourage botting..?

ZtokaJan 24, 20171 votes

This game already encourages botting. Anyone starting a new account knows there are bots in about ever dang game unless you can form premades. Then you normally roll the other team because they have a bot or two on their side. I haven't seen bots in SR normals though. At least there is one way to evade them ;)