If your ward spots an enemy

Dapper Hat··18 votes·1,130 views

You should get an assist if they die. Example would be a support warding enemy red buff and someone kills the enemy jungler. You should be entitled to assist gold. For those people worried about assists getting out of control, this would be an additional perk of building a sightstone.

22 Comments

Ok sure but why5 votes

Especially since wards are linked to that famous S rank. Good idea.

ChaddyFantome3 votes

Agreed, but maybe make it an exclusive "vision assist" that gives a smaller and fixed amount of gold to reduce gold inflation. It could get kinda nuts in some scenarios.

Dapper Hat4 votes

I feel the issue would be solved if it was just a bonus for supports then. Tie it directly into a sightstone. I dont feel like we would see people buying sightstone in place of other items on the off chance a teammate kills an enemy around it.

Spoofghoul1 votes

you might see it on a jungler just put a ward in the middle of everylane

Dapper Hat2 votes

So are you saying you want minions and player LOS to no longer show any vision and only wards? Im not sure how this point has anything to do with a ward detecting someone in the fog of war and a teammate killing them.

Spoofghoul1 votes

random assist gold incoming

Dapper Hat2 votes

How is it random when the requirement would be 1) have a sightstone 2) ward is the item that detects vision and not minions, other champions or turrets. I dont think the word "random" means what you think it means.

SwiftKitten882 votes

i would have to say no on this. it would just give too many assists

doiminat0r36001 votes

if you got an assist for vision, youd get assists for simply existing in a teamfight, even if you didnt do anything at all.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

It would give way too many assists.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

A bronzie baddie: "wards dont help kill people, fucking useless. never buy wards huge troll gold waste"

"/all OMG THIS TROLL BUYING WARDS TROLL REPORT TROLL"

Señor Weazel1 votes

I like this idea and would DEF start buying a sightstone as a sup now (atm i just buy full support item like FOTM or FQC)

Toplane Fencer1 votes

This would be too hard to determine and probably be impossible to code. Also way too many assists, especially in high elo. This would just lead to more gold disparity and harder snowballing per kill.

AATTRROOXX2 votes

It would actually be quite easy to code in comparison to many abilities.

The logic would look something like:

If playerX has sighstone, then give enemies who walk inside vision of wards they place a debuff lasting for 1 minute(example) that grants assists if enemy is killed.

Diananmen Square1 votes

But Riot'd have to make it so that the enemies can't see that they are debuffed, or they would notice that a place is warded because they can see the debuff themselves.

AATTRROOXX2 votes

I'd bet money that there are more hidden debuffs on characters than there are ones on the buff bar.

doiminat0r36001 votes

This isnt a good idea.

Back when there was a thread about getting assists for tanking towers, the comments speculated someone would want this. If you dont get assists for tanking towers, then there shouldn't be an assist for placing a ward down.

Dapper Hat1 votes

What? you DO get assist gold for taking a turret. If one person takes the tower they get 300g, if two, they each get 150g. Its split.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Yes but they were asking for assists on the kill. Not the turret.

Say, if you were tanking tower shots but didnt touch the enemy champion that was killed, you should get an assist, was their argument. Now your argument is "if you ward and an enemy champion dies, you get an assist."

Do you see how BS that is? It's like everyone gets an assist in a team fight on everyone just for existing and seeing the enemy.

Dapper Hat1 votes

That wasnt my argument at all and I CLEARLY stated that it should only work using sightstones. Are you REALLY telling me that you believe five players on the team are going to fill up one item slot with a sightstone for a teamfight to do less damage and just drop wards? This is to help supports and their lack of gold and help to create a better incentive for placing wards around objectives. If you are in a lane the MINIONS give vision. If you are in the JUNGLE a MINION wont give vision but a ward will. I am shocked you are trying to somehow justify your position that you feel mid laners, adc's, top lane and junglers are going to go out and rush a sightstone to get assist gold when wards arent infinite and dont last an infinite amount of time.

doiminat0r36001 votes

I'm telling you that vision assists are stupid. If we give it for sightstones, then people will want it for normal trinkets, then for pinks and blue trinket. Then they'll ask for it on vision itself. It is opening a floodgate that cannot be closed. Not to mention it'll make champions that build sightstone regularly even more powerful LeeSin.

It's an unnecessary change for an unnecessary purpose. You don't need assists unless you touch the enemy champion that is killed. If they are a bounty, the entire team gets gold.

Friendly Ram1 votes

love the idea but worried about execution. thanks for sharing

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