Has anyone here forced to change their main after a Shitty Riot rework?

BIackfox··14 votes·1,566 views

I already talked to a guy who changed it a few times and if a yorick main existed i already know they have fled the scene... I am already scared i'll have to change once they rework mine sadly

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OurLestrade6 votes

I haven't enjoyed the Swain rework (Somehow it feels like there's even less control to him), Taric rework was painfully disappointing since they completely shifted him from someone who countered mobility to someone hard countered by it with his delayed stun and awfully boring ultimate that somehow manages to feel less fun than his old one. Since you know, it's not like supports need to protect carries from assassins.

I've gradually adapted to the Shen rework at least, that's spotty in places but there's something there. Need to bring in a lot of stats to make it fun though, mainly CDR and attack speed so he flows properly.

Sherogarth2 votes

When playing Taric I sometimes wonder if they were without idea for new ult for him.

I'm pretty sure it went like this: designer1: "meh... I have no idea for ult for him, all funny mechanics are already taken. It should be easy to use and as simple as possible (bc we decided that whole Taric should be as simple as possible), also healthly." designer2: "Let me help you. So what is his theme again?" designer1: "He is gem-wielding, star-imbued, gem-paladin/star-cleric/demigod/protector his title is "the Shield of Valoran". So i was thinking about some star shower or some sharp gems striking from ground... or even pure storm of gems and starlight that surrounds him and he then shoots sharp gemes in all..." designer2:"Wait! What have u said?" designer1:"Starstorm of gems?" designer2:"Nah, about his theme... protector... protect.... I know! Give him invulnerability!" designer1:"But we already got that on Kyle..." designer2:"Make it aoe!" designer1:"Isn't that a bit op?" designer2:"Add some delay! Delays are always healthly." designer1:"Isn't delay countering whole "saving lives in last second" concept? Also we almost have this on Kindred." designer2:"Nah, it's perfect. Simple, easy to use, healthly, delayed..." designer1:"<to himself/herself> ... and boring." designer2:"Lets ship it asap, i need to focus on ult for cartoony yordle rider.... What do you think about chaaaaaaarge form half of the map that gives you shield and also incrases movement speed of you allies and have some kind of ridiculous over the top animation?" designer1:"Yea... sounds great... :("

Sona x Rubick6 votes

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/21335235#ranked-stats

Ryze used to main ryze in 2014 and got to diamond with him. i loved him so much kiting while using the old passive, press R unleashing thunders on the whole team with the AOE damage, until they transformed him into a braindead "i stop moving and unleash a billion of spells" champ just like KogMaw no more kiting, no more anything just slam the keyboard.

now i'm having fun with Jhin Sona , my opinion on new ryze is that the E/W/Q seems just like how old ryze was playing but i don't know where the fuck they found this idea of ulti.

Tychusfindlay9193 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07gg04Ua,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-12T15:00:15.998+0000)

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/21335235#ranked-stats

Ryze used to main ryze in season 4 and got to diamond with him. i loved him so much kiting while using the old passive, press R unleashing thunders on the whole team with the AOE damage, until they transformed him into a braindead "i stop moving and unleash a billion of spells" champ just like KogMaw no more kiting, no more anything just slam the keyboard.

now i'm having fun with Jhin Sona , my opinion on new ryze is that the E/W/Q seems just like how old ryze was playing but i don't know where the fuck they found this idea of ulti.

"Pressing R"

Ryze was fucking cancer. Good riddance.

That being said, his new ult does kinda stink.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

i was just saying that i liked him and he wasn't cancer, permanent snare was after his (2014/2015) rework

Arakadia1 votes

New Ryze is braindead?

GULAG 4 U3 votes

No, 2015 ryze spamming spells while getting a penta.

ACENOX1 votes

ryze was reworked 2 times

Arakadia1 votes

More then 2 times.

PermabannedGaren6 votes

No, because I'm not stupid enough to believe that champions like Yorick, Shen, and Taric were better designed before their reworks.

Girard4 votes

Shen definitely was. They changed him from a purely supportive tank who could consistently survive in any matchup and thrive in Jungle, Top, and Support.

Now? He's an all-in duelist with strong powers but overall picking him against 90% of people is a death sentence until laning phase is over.

Sona x Rubick2 votes

Graves KogMaw never forget

Shadow Hazard5 votes

Malzahar is just not the same and there really isn't any midlane champ that I clicked with so well other than ahri but that also changed when they removed the charm mechanic of interrupting mobility since that was the main reason ahri into leblanc was a pure skill matchup. Considering the large number of malz mains that do not like the rework I am surprised that riot has chosen to stay so quiet on the matter, but will answer each and every mord post even though they wouldn't really have any solid plan other than another rework while malz quite frankly only needs to be reverted with maybe some tweaks.

BIackfox2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shadow Hazard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07gg04Ua,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2016-09-12T16:14:07.637+0000)

Malzahar is just not the same and there really isn't any midlane champ that I clicked with so well other than ahri but that also changed when they removed the charm mechanic of interrupting mobility since that was the main reason ahri into leblanc was a pure skill matchup. Considering the large number of malz mains that do not like the rework I am surprised that riot has chosen to stay so quiet on the matter, but will answer each and every mord post even though they wouldn't really have any solid plan other than another rework while malz quite frankly only needs to be reverted with maybe some tweaks.

"I am surprised that riot has chosen to stay so quiet on the matter"

surprised how? Since when did riot start giving a shit?

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shadow Hazard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07gg04Ua,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2016-09-12T16:14:07.637+0000)

Malzahar is just not the same and there really isn't any midlane champ that I clicked with so well other than ahri but that also changed when they removed the charm mechanic of interrupting mobility since that was the main reason ahri into leblanc was a pure skill matchup. Considering the large number of malz mains that do not like the rework I am surprised that riot has chosen to stay so quiet on the matter, but will answer each and every mord post even though they wouldn't really have any solid plan other than another rework while malz quite frankly only needs to be reverted with maybe some tweaks.

i was also a malzahar main, shadow prince into assassins was my jam <3 the rework took away everything that made malzahar, malzahar and it did so in a very bad way. they pumped all his power into a broken passive to make up for the massive 500 base and 2.5 AP nerf they gave him and turned his voidlings into a shitty minigame that any assassin or any champion with an empowered auto can win instantly.
with the kogmaw reversion, theres hope that failed reworks such as cass, morde, and malzahar can get reverted too.

Joseph Gladstone2 votes

i used to main taric on my other acc until the rework

NazZomLord2 votes

Shen Mordekaiser Skarner Vladimir ._. Halp...

LankPants2 votes

I used to play the support role a lot back in seasons 2,3 and early S4. Then Sona was reworked. Since then I've basically hated the role and very rarely play it. I still do default to Sona when I play support but I wouldn't consider myself a Sona main anymore while before the rework she was my most played by about 100 games, now I'm pretty sure I have about 300 more games on Sej than Sona and about 150 more on Irelia and Syndra.

Borror2 votes

Used to main poppy support, but hated the new rework of her. I then changed to taric who was soon reworked and tahm kench who was nerfed to one of the weakest champs for a good while. I don't really mind the mini rework to tahm kench that much though.

BakedLotion2 votes

Even worse when they rework it for the better, then nerf them to a spot where they are even worse than pre-rework :( Then you say "What was the point of the rework?"

BastionKross2 votes

Gangplank Mordekaiser Poppy Sion

Oh yeah, I know that feeling.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Poppy nor sion rework are shit lol. Sion is prolly the best rework ever done lul

agbudar2 votes

Mordekaiser >Yorick >Mordekaiser >Malzahar >Braum

Nagoh Shan2 votes

Sona

Now I'm just hoping riot forgets Viktor exists so they don't try to "help" him out anymore.

Arakadia2 votes

I still like Shen, but they've nerfed him for the wrong reasons and too much. Its harder and harder to play him when I can go Bard.

Witch of Babylon2 votes

I really miss old Soraka

DiamondLeonis2 votes

I used to play Zilean, Soraka and Taric until Riot "reworked" them all and now I absolutely HATE them. Both Taric and Zilean had point and click abilities removed because they "lack counterplay" but most assassins get to keep their point and click blinks/dashes... Ekko, Katarina, Leblanc, Talon and Zed.

The WORST insult though was Tristana, who got a point and click bomb in her rework but Zilean's were called totally toxic and removed in his rework, ONE PATCH BEFORE! It just seemed to be total favouritism by Riot.

It just seems completely hypocritical. I moved on to playing Karma who became popular (annoyingly) and then got her R+E nerfed to the point where the MS Boost is practically useless now. She just is not as fun to play.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I know right? Sona was my turn to support before her rework; riot gutted her auras because of them being 'invisible power'. Excuse me? She had a 3 inch circle around her displaying what she was buffing! People were just ignorant, but not as much as the developers.

L Rayquaza2 votes

Not my main specifically, but my holy trinity of top lane tanks used to be Sion, Chogath, and Skarner

And then the spires came

NEW DOMINION 2016

Swiftstrike42 votes

I use to play the older Shen before his most recent rework. I use to flex him to top and support and by the end of season 5 I almost only played him at support.

After the mini-rework I lost interest in the champion. I really liked his old Q providing sustain in laning. His older kit made him an adequate support and now he can't play that role really at all.

After a few weeks of playing the new Shen I found that he was objectively better, but just not quite as fun. I stopped playing him completely, but this might be due to me shifting completely to Nasus for the top lane.

I also use to play a lot of Sona before she was slightly tweaked. After the mini-rework her win rate was so high she was banned in almost every ranked game I played. I pretty much could only play her in blind pick and I had try out other supports to compensate for her being banned everygame. I play her a lot less now and have gravitated towards Leona after using her as a sub for when Sona was frequently banned.

I also use to play Veigar before the mid season update. I wasn't great with him, but I absolutely hated the changes to his ultimate. I like everything else about the changes with the passive, but they basically removed his mana regen (which I really liked). I played him for maybe a month and I just kept mistiming the ultimate and not using it like an execute on the right targets with lower health pools.

I have almost given up playing him because I feel he takes a little too long now to scale with his ultimate not scaling off enemy AP.

Funny when writing this post I didn't think I had played enough champions or long enough for riot reworks to change the champions I played. Sure enough I had two that I have almost completely stopped playing.

Demon King Maou1 votes

Not really if they changed my main its not going to change my opinion about the champion I don't play champions for "Overpoweredness" I play champions because I like the lore on them the taunts on them and the skins on them unless they make all three of those shit then yeah

BIackfox2 votes

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Not really if they changed my main its not going to change my opinion about the champion I don't play champions for "Overpoweredness" I play champions because I like the lore on them the taunts on them and the skins on them unless they make all three of those shit then yeah

uh.... that seems illogical to like a champ for. all the lore sucks, taunts??? and skins maybe ok but the other team make really no sense to "like a champ for" you should like them for their spells and how they work, not even OPness and maybe A/V.

Oleandervine4 votes

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uh.... that seems illogical to like a champ for. all the lore sucks, taunts??? and skins maybe ok but the other team make really no sense to "like a champ for" you should like them for their spells and how they work, not even OPness and maybe A/V.

Who are you to tell people why they should enjoy a character in a game? Most people will learn a kit regardless of how complex or lame it is if they really really really like the champion's concept, their in game interactions, and the skins for that champ. Hell, I got Hecarim and Galio just for the skins, and I plan to get Shyvana and Ezreal for some of their skins as well. I also main Symmetra, Zarya, and sometimes Mei in Overwatch simply because I like them as characters. I learned to play them because I like them, not the other way around.

Mojihito6661 votes

You know they change lore as well , look at Poppy, she didnt know any jokes snow she is a joke teller.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

I haven't changed mains since I started playing this game Ahri

#AhriFancultBanner

DiamondLeonis2 votes

Because favouritism protects her from any real changes. That's hardly something to be proud of.

GoronMuncherV1 votes

DFG removal and her E damage amp removal was pretty harsh on her. She's no bad atm sure enough, but hardly able to perform anywhere near where she used to be able to.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Why is yorick rework sht?

Arakadia3 votes

I think its pretty great!

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Played him a bit. Imo it's okay. You do feel like shit midgame though, and iwthout your ghouls... you're worth shit.

Also your ghouls die so easily... so you're worth shit. The ghouls need some twaeking, everything else is cool. Yorick doesn't punish you hard neough for letting him (yorick) beat your face like darius or mordekaiser.

Drakylon1 votes

{quoted}

Played him a bit. Imo it's okay. You do feel like shit midgame though, and iwthout your ghouls... you're worth shit.

Also your ghouls die so easily... so you're worth shit. The ghouls need some twaeking, everything else is cool. Yorick doesn't punish you hard neough for letting him (yorick) beat your face like darius or mordekaiser.

The ghouls are supposed to be weak; the point is that Yorick has a ton of them. And they do a surprising amount of damage -- 4 ghouls focusing an E-marked champion will bring its HP down significantly. They do feel very bad to use during teamfights, though. They (and the Maiden) could probably take reduced damage from AoE and not be overpowered.

A lot of Yorick's power is in his Q and his Maiden. If a Yorick with a Maiden nearby gets to beat on you, you're probably just dead. Especially if said Yorick bought a Triforce.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

They deal a lot of damage, but I'd rather have ghouls that are a bit tanky and don't like to one aoe spell than tons of squishy ones though.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Hey now, don't be like that.

I main rework Taric and rework Brand. I looked up their previous kits and saw the need for a change.

Don't kill me prerework players, I have only played these champs post rework. I literally joined the game just as Taric was reworked.

SayoriIsBigSad1 votes

I miss when fiora was kawaii :c

Itankyou1 votes

yes, ryze Ryze

DorkunedAuras1 votes

RekSai No reworks, just a thorough beating with the nerf hammer

DaSarcasticGuy1 votes

I wouldn't call him my main, but i really enjoyed ryze when i started. Last season he was broken, but still kinda fun. His current incarnation is just bla to play as.

Niyumi1 votes

I used to play a lot of champions, then I became a Yorick main after his shitty rework.

... did I do it right? I'm actually serious about potentially being a Yorick main now. :P Champ is loads of fun, and pretty strong if you use him right.

Lauchmelder1 votes

My main role, yes. Was forced to change my main role due to supports being completely obsolete for the first half of season 6.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

I was old school ad sion main. Hence the name. He's a better champ now I just don't okay it

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