Can We Make Teemo A Jungler

Give him a jungle-specific buff, that allows him to clear/sustain better. I think there's this diamond/master/challenger Teemo Jungle main out there, Teemo just struggles with clears and sustain, iirc.

Run smite and take him to the jungle id say

He'd be the most annoying counterjungler in the game, noplsnoteemoshroospamnoooooooooooooooooooo

He has a poison,blind, and a mushroom explosion with poision, and he has suprise poison passive, and a more poison to poison dart ability, he also has a speedy ability to get him to land more poison to the poison dart and blinds with the extra poison on the poison dart.

So what you're saying is increase the duration of his blind against monsters (sustain) and make his poison stack, but only against monsters (clear speed).

i agree

I did a similar post yesterday Hahaha !!!

FOr those who say Teemo can already jungle, try to find a team that would allow it. Its impossible...

If they do boost his damage against monsters and make a Dark Horse : Teemo jungle post, peopel would finally open their eyes!

I also though of something very simple as a boost: When his passive is actyive, he get a bonus of AS when unstealthed. When he does, his damage to Monsters should increase as well. That change alone would make it easier to jungle with him at lower levels.

If they could make his blind double his duration against monsters, it would be awesome too and be more then enough I think.

He'd probably need his ult to be available at level 1 (But with reduced power of course). The two unique things Teemo provides as a jungler is the potential for counter jungling with his passive and blind and objective control and traps with his shrooms. But as we know, counterjungling is a risky and opportunistic kind of thing, so his only reliable and interesting thing is his shrooms which he doesn't get until level six and he's bad at ganking so all he's doing for most of the early game is farming.

He can be played jungle (though its eh), but yeah, if they did a bit of adjusting to hit stats he might be a viable jungler (I haven't taken him jungle, so I dunno if he is viable in his current state).

His passive, W, Q, and R are all great for jungle purposes.

Need to camp a lane? Stand in it. Want to gank? Run like a yordle on drugs. Want to surprise someone? Blind them! Need wards? No worries, you not only are one but you get an unlimited amount of free wards. (Of course this is compensated with the fact that they explode when enemies walk on them, but even that is perfectly fine!) And his E keeps champs that are fleeing a gank under pressure even while running.

I took him to jungle and it's really a rough start, I'd say run some lifesteal, attack speed, and attack damage runes if you're going to do it (I was running my adcarry ones in place which has mana, a bit of ad for last hits)

Maybe...

1. Make his E do 1.5x dmg to monsters?
2. Q's blind duration is doubled vs large monsters
3. R's CD is halfed and mana is refunded if he gets a monster kill with it

If this were to happen and teemo became a good jungler he would need to have his shrooms limited more harshly so it isn't literally everywhere on the map. If it was limited to a max of say 10/13/16 shrooms out for each level of his ult that would allow him a good amount of vision control but not over bearing vision control. Do not underestimate the power of vision control.

As it stands it is his clear time and survivability that keep him from being a good jungler and he would need other thigns toned down a bit if he were to either get sustain or clear speed.

He struggles early game but once he gets a few items his clears are a breeze and he's a great counter-jungler and provides a ton of vision all over the map.

I feel Teemo needs a gameplay change, since his laning pattern is fairly non-interactive due to his Q poke, and hopefully when he gets updated he'll also be better optimized towards jungling. Literally every single ability in his kit could help him jungle (his blind prevents damage from large monsters, his damage is heavily autoattack-based, which is always helpful for a jungler, his W helps him roam and his R is best used when roaming), but for some reason he's not nearly as popular a jungler as he could be. Perhaps jungle AP itemization might have something to do with it (it's not in the best state), but otherwise just a few tweaks to his kit could hopefully let him clear a lot better.

Teemo doesn't have abilities that help him clear quickly or sustain. On top of that his ganks are below average, albeit sometimes crafty and humorous. His counter jungling is actually impressive, and his vision control game is incredible due to his mushrooms. However if Teemo was to become an actual jungler he would need something to clear more effectively.

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I think i saw solwolf do an old jungle teemo. He waited invisible by the enemy's red and stole it. I don't need an invisible asshole...correction another invisible asshole waiting to kill me at red.

He can already jungle (his first clear is slow but once he gets going he can clear in seconds)

Teemo's blind needs to work on auto lock abilities. Then blind would be effective. besides the adc, everyone is a caster ad or ap. He should stop skill shots or something.... damn. Or better yet, he could get his shrooms at level one like some champs have their ult.

CAN jungle, I did it several times, he can clear both sides of the jungle at the first clear without recalling, you do that by kiteing and blinding the creeps over and over, his clear speed is moderate-fast but the main benefit of teemo jungle is his ability to protect lanes with mushrooms or to infestate the enemy jungle and counter jungle him thanks to the passive.

The most important thing while jungling with Teemo is to be as annoying as possible to the enemy team and make sure to spam your laugh!

You'd have to remake his ulti. The ammount of damage they deal with only Liandry's is ridiculous and it gives him way too much map control since the removal of oracles elixir. Dont tell me the lense and a pink ward are suitable replacements. Avoid some, hit 30 more...

he already can jungle...I picked this, my team thought I was trolling. Ended up carrying.

The magus enchant is perfect also...sure no mana regen, but the 20% cdr is huge...decent ap on it too.

The only hard part is your first clear...it's tricky until maybe until level 4 or 5, then it's easy. Start E and level up E first. You can put 2 points in Q before you finish E if you want some extra burst. No need to take W until level 4.

Gonna need AS or AD marks, AP quints (1 armor quint if you're really struggling with the first clear), armor yellow obviously, and any blues you want (scaling ap are nice). pick up both martial and arcane mastery (+4 ad/+6 ap). The extra early AD helps your first clear.

Lastly, the tricky part is kiting the jungle creeps. Auto-attack as you walk them backwards until they reach the reset range, let them reset 4-5 times as you continue to AA. (I haven't tested whether they fully reset on the 5th, or after the 5th soft reset, so I usually just let them soft reset 3-4 times to be safe). Blind the large creep after you're done with the soft resets and tank it until you kill it.

Clear the jungle until your first back a few times in a custom game to get the hang of this...it's not hard once you've done it a few times. Lastly, I like to start golems for the stun. Really helps you avoid some extra damage on the first clear. That way you're also at red, so you can take the crab after golems at 2:25 and then smite will be up for red if you really need the extra hp.

You may have to invest in more potions than usual on your first 2 backs, but after that you won't be taking much damage at all.

Shrooms are perfect for wards and map control. Don't forget to spam /laugh

What about giving E and active... I'm thinking similar to Twitch's E in a way, an enemy inflicted with Teemo's poison within range will be targeted, it releases a poison cloud that applies Teemo's poison to nearby enemies and increases the damage of his poison by 20%. Keep in mind this adds another mana cost onto Teemo, making it harder for his mana sustain. You could probably reduce the base power of the E's passive to compensate for the added damage with the active.

Teemo jg is already a thing its not hard to pull off

i think it will go like this

passive now works on bushes instead of staying iddle like a teemo ward, teemo stay invisible for one 1 (up to 2 by late game) after leaving the bush

lets make his Q no longer blind instead impair the vision radius of the target like graves smoke screen of course reducing the duration (now his Q is helpful against mages and casters atleat)

leave W and E rather the same

R now last alot less but teemo can throw the mushroom further (to scout bushes) if it hits and enemie it explode dealing minimal damage but slowing, if it dont it start charging, after 2-3 seconds it turns invisible and work like it usually do but also give more vision than currently does (atleast enough to see the full tribush)

this support a scouting gameplay where teemo can counter jungle, scout bushes for the enemie jungler and if he get spoted a simple Q mushroom throw and he is out of there

I've tried him in a custom, and it can be done. He takes a beating like all other off-meta or recently coming back into play Junglers. You will want to start Q and go Gromp -> Blue -> Red, and then back for Blue Smite (you don't need Purple Smite) and build like you would Twitch jungle would, but in AP form. So like and this thing . You only need around 1 to 2 points into W to move through the jungle, and you'll need the chilling to slow unless you rush Crystal Scepter and give up Attack Speed and some AoE but then you'll need to land Q's to even slow anything.

As for maxing, it can go whatever, but I would max E if you're fighting a tank jungler (or heavy tank comp, like a Shen top and Leo supp with a JG Jarvan) and max Q for everything else (though it can go either way against a Lee Sin, since he could shield off your poison or he might rush more MR to reduce the damage on your Q).