"TSM is going to worlds" say that again.

Kaitri·3/13/2016, 9:48:15 PM·21 votes·4,701 views

i know everyone is a TSM TSM TSM fan so this thread will get hate as fuck idc let your anger out here mates. but seriously Renegades played not really well. crumbz was horrible, they had almost 0 communication with bard (cait ult, graves flash, lissandra flash, things that got wasted cause of bard e/r) and still tsm lost. i dont think we will see tsm at worlds. sure there is still summer and they can fix problems, but as of RIGHT NOW there is 0 chance for tsm

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øNazrí3/13/2016, 9:58:02 PM8 votes

Ugh the loss could've been reversed if Yellowstar picked up his crap performance!

Croanin3/13/2016, 11:19:53 PM5 votes

I'm personally tired of seeing TSM at worlds anyway. They have always been pathetic at the World Stage. There superior infrastructure allows them to do well in NA because there coaching staff and analyst help them adapt to their opponents habits, but they don't adapt on the world stage quick enough at all. TSM always starts off slow and I expect them to pick it up during the Summer Split.

But TSM is thee only team in Pro League history to have the distinction of qualifying for every single World Championship, only to get embarrassed, lucky to make it out of groups.

Season 1 is Season 1, I forget what happens but no one cares, the Asian scene wasn't there yet.

Season 2 TSM fails to get out of groups and get pummeled.

Season 3 TSM fails to get out of groups and get pummeled.

Season 4 TSM make it out of groups woot! But that's only because there group was an utter joke, there was an easy Wildcard team, TPA sucked, and the EU team didn't have their full roster. They never took a game off the first seed in their group. Then they get utterly destroyed by SSB.

Season 5 TSM fails to get out of groups...surprise, surprise.

Now lets look at other Western teams that have often made Worlds. FNC the team with the 2nd most Worlds appearances always shows up, they won Season 1, failed to qualify for Season 2, defeat NA's hopes and dreams of C9 in 3 games, it was a competitive series). Lose to Royal 3-1. In Season 4 they failed to make it out of groups but were in the group of death an extremely competitive group with no Wildcard/International team to pick free wins off of. And they gave of us one of thee most competitive and entertaining games in LoL history OMG vs FNC, and took a game from Tournament favorites SSB. Season 5 they made it to the semi finals.

C9 also makes me proud, as I stated there games against FNC in Season 3 were very competitive. And sadly the silly bye system didn't let us see what they could really do only playing 3 games the entire tournament. Season 4 was spectacular. They became the first team NA team in years to defeat a Korean team against Najin "This is for Kabum" during groups. And though they lost to SSB, they gave them a serious run for their money with critics concluding that they were probably the best Western team. Season 5 our hopes rested on their shoulders and they went on a great run at first, but floundered at the end and didn't make it out of groups, but it was miracle that they even made it into Worlds. They remind me of the old M5/GG as a team that isn't the best but demands respect from the best.

So no I don't want to see TSM in Worlds again, I'd rather see Liquid or some other team, that can maybe adapt to new competition on the fly.

Palmeiras SerieB3/14/2016, 8:54:11 AM3 votes

Whatever

EU still better than NA anyway

YCitizenSnipsY3/13/2016, 10:34:21 PM2 votes

What happened to the "EU exodus." Where is all the talent NA stole from EU lol. TSM was called a Superteam at the begining of the split, who have now loss to DIG and REN.

Cpt Chap Stick3/13/2016, 9:48:57 PM2 votes

TSM is washed up.

Kshuna3/16/2016, 11:21:50 PM2 votes

Just because Renegades beat TSM once doesn't exactly mean that TSM isn't going to worlds. Definitely this is probably one of the most underperforming TSMs we have seen in a while. TSM doesnt have synergy (for fans, we emphasize on the yet) but the fact of the matter is that

A) There's a lot of time before Worlds for TSM to step it up

B) TSM has AMAZINGLY skilled players, just not the synergy to hold them together in place.

C) Anything can happen. Remember 2014 where SKT went undefeated in Korea in spring but didn't even make it to worlds? Even AFTER they won All-Stars? Remember when C9 barreled through the gauntlet last year with two reverse sweeps to put up a decent performance at 2015 Worlds?

TSM is basically at a C9 Summer Split 2015 quality point right now and while they no doubt have to find a way to mesh better I don't feel like I have enough info to make a good decision about who will make it to worlds. Even Immortals are looking shaky these last few weeks. So many top teams are 1-1 with other top teams so there's really little ground to base any opinions off of. TSM sometimes is notorious for losing to bottom teams sometimes. They have never had a first week in a split where they havent gone 1-1. As a TSM fan I can't wait to see what happens to TSM in the future.

ScriptBrand3/13/2016, 9:49:41 PM1 votes

i'm a tsm fan and IDC at this point. yellowstar is by far the weakest link. there may be other weak links, but yellowstar is so freakin bad. who cares if he can shotcall well, he has the mechanics of a gold player.