Still noone talked about dig vs fox?

Kaitri·Mar 16, 2016·3 votes·1,302 views

i mean noone cares about fox and i bet the dig fans are still shocked. but i laughed so hard about digs horrible fails we just gotta talk about it man cmon guys let the salt rain begin hate me for enjoying the game in my own way. seriously dig... after that game they should just be placed 0-18 all their wins should be erased and transformed into defeats.

they had what? 9 dragons and 4 barons? and lost the last timefight because they wasted everything they had on alistar who just ulted? lol

18 Comments

Miror BMar 16, 20162 votes

To be fair, their second match of that week was waaay more noteworthy. Not only did they blow another giant lead against a far better team, but they did so using a team comp that realistically should never actually lose late-game. After that week and with all the tilt-worthy moments it had, I would not be surprised to see them drop out of the lcs entirely next week when the relegation tournament happens. They had a chance to be 6-10 and in sole possession of 7th place, but due to their inability to utilize giant leads couldn't close the games. Teams like Apex aren't going to be any more forgiving to them, and will probably eat them for breakfast.

Tornado of DOOMMar 16, 20161 votes

Agreed, the only time they looked good was in season 2, when they went to Worlds. Now, they just crumble against everyone, IMO they are the CJ Entus of NA, they can beat anyone (As seen by their 1st game against CLG this year, and their rematch against TSM), but can lose to everyone aswell. I think they should've been gone by now, by the way it looks, they might actually place 9/10th place.

Ale non è maleMar 16, 20161 votes

Team like Apex wouldn't probably be able to stall enough to make use of Dig mistakes, though The best chance a Challenger team has to beat a LCS team in NA is vs Impulse

Miror BMar 17, 20161 votes

Gotta disagree with that. Although impulse has looked weak without seraph (much like every other bottom-lcs team has this year), much of it has had to do with them getting outdrafted combined with procxin continuing the tradition of TiP jg'ers making incredibly risky plays in an attempt to get their team a lead. After what happened with DiG in week 8, I really cannot see them rebounding nicely from this. Having it happen once is fine. Having it happen twice, in the same week, against 2 teams who realistically everyone thought was gonna win outright must be incredibly frustrating.

Oh, and I'm not saying Apex would stall them out. With Eve/Shrimp being incredibly aggressive junglers, I'm sorta under the assumption that any lead DiG gets would be met with a pretty stellar gank/pick.

Ale non è maleMar 20, 20161 votes

The problem is that people are underestimating the huge difference between NA LCS and NA CS Crumbzz sucks badly for NA LCS level, but it still kinda good at NA CS level, the same for Kiwikid and similar players

Eve/Shrimp are very very good, but Dig's strongest player is Kirei, so i don't know if Apex can really do the same thig they have done in NA CS, namely sonwballing super hard upon the huge advantage they had on jungle The biggest problem for Challenger teams when they have to play promotions series is their ability to adapt to use different strategy to what they use in CS, because the level is different. The chronic problem of NA scene has been the lack of player turnover to replace the washed up or just mediocre NA players because what is lacking is the talent pool of young amateur players, so you got unprepared from NA CS to play in LCS

Apex has all the talent to beat any teams that will play the relegation tournament Keane vs NA CS mid laner is different from Keane vs Shiptur, Eve/Shrimp vs average NA CS jungler is different from Eve/Shrimp vs Kirei, Xpecial vs average NA CS support is different from Xpecial vs Kiwikid, so Apex can't just play like they would play vs a usual NA CS team How DIG or RNG are playing is visible, but the problem is that if an Apex expect to stomp them because of the same reason why they stomp NA CS teams they would lose the series

Impulse is the team with the least proven players in those pressure situations, they are the easiest target for the CS teams aiming to be promoted

YCitizenSnipsYMar 16, 20161 votes

Blame GP/Nauts wave clear and ZZ'rot. They literally couldn't siege if they wanted to. That's why they were incapable of knocking down Nexus turrets with two different buffs that make it easier to take down turrets.

Any way the reason they lost is because Jhin canceled his recall when EF tried to backdoor. If he would have returned he would have likely two shotted the NId and they could have definitely Zoned the Alistair. Then Corki would have been left alone in EF base to take the Nexus.

KaitriMar 16, 20161 votes

"gps waveclear" you saw in the 64th minute how much gp barrels did to the baron buffed creeps? not even half the hp. and gp can only hold 3 barrels in newest patch. poppy was just super bad... instead of just getting the inhibs for free she engages 1v4. the other dudes of dig just lost half their hp and poppy goes in... after that 4 of fox push mid down and what is poppy doing? trying to tp toplane. he canceled it but dude in the end 3 of fox were alive and there were about 20 creeps in top lane. TP NOW AND FINISH WITH CORKI RUSHING MID.

and yea jhin didnt even hit the nexus tower before the game was over... not sure who is the shotcaller on dig but whoever is just fucked up so bad

YCitizenSnipsYMar 16, 20161 votes

You think GP got 764 CS becasue he couldn't waveclear well. The last two fights DIG picked were under EF towers becasue of how well EF comp could stall. They couldn't make use of the buffs, because of the picks/items EF were using to stall.

And I still would blame the Jhin for that loss, with everything else considered. In the last moments he literally accomplished nothing.

KaitriMar 16, 20161 votes

he got over 800 yea but not against baron creeps. out of those 800 not even 100 were baron buffed creeps. kiwikid just wasted his braum ult when they sieged and they all went full in on alistar who, SURPRISE, used his ult and just didnt give a fuck.

i agree with the jhin thing but everyone played so bad you have to blame them all. sure jhin was the last guy who made a decision that decided the game but in the end they all made horrible decisions that addet to that moment.

Miror BMar 16, 20161 votes

Actually, the cs thing was also keeping track of gp barrels too so while the thing did say he had around 880cs in actuality that number was a lot lower (something they explained during the match).

AbyssphereMar 17, 20161 votes

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Actually, the cs thing was also keeping track of gp barrels too so while the thing did say he had around 880cs in actuality that number was a lot lower (something they explained during the match).

Gangplank gets a CS for killing one of his own barrels? Am I misunderstanding? Cos that seems stupid.

Miror BMar 17, 20161 votes

Think you're confused. The actual "cs counter" was including his own barrels, thus although it said 880 or so the record is only including "creeps" and not "inanimate objects he can deploy and kill constantly for 0 gold".

AbyssphereMar 17, 20161 votes

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Think you're confused. The actual "cs counter" was including his own barrels, thus although it said 880 or so the record is only including "creeps" and not "inanimate objects he can deploy and kill constantly for 0 gold".

That's what I was asking - I've never heard of Gangplank getting CS just for shooting his barrels and that seems like such a stupid thing to include in a CS total

HooksusMar 16, 20161 votes

I'm an Echo Fox fan, so my opinion is biased to say the least. But that game was amazing in how it turned out, how many calls were wrong, and how that one fight cost DIG the game. But it's a problem Dig has seen before, and after against Immortals. If DIG knew how to push advantages well instead of those paltry barons and dragons, they would have won. Hard.

DestructoDaveMar 17, 20161 votes

Its funny people think NA is such a joke, when I just happened to watch a bit of the LCK last night, and the LZ vs CJ series last night. And, it was literally 3 straight games of fails. I mean monumental, Dig vs Fox, fails. Every game was an hour+. You had people starting fights and not having enough mana to ult(Game 3 kindred picked a fight and didnt have mana to ult, causing her team to get cleaned up). You had a team trying to backdoor with Kench, forgetting to finish the inhibitor, not being able to end, having to attempt to run out of the base because they couldnt attack the damn nexus turrets for not finishing the inhib, getting caught, then the terrible enemy team poppy ulting the one person they could kill, to safety. You had a bot lane go full moron mode and over-leash gromp at lvl 1, both getting chunked to sub 50% off the gromp and having to go to lane at lvl 1 with no hp. I could go on and on about the fails in that series.

And the ironic thing about the entire thing, was listening to the LCK casters talk about how bad NA LCS is, as I watch junglers go full hai-amumu mode not having mana for their ults, and all these fails. Thats just a couple of the fails. The games went 60-70 minutes, and not from expert play. From full on, moronic fails. Even the random baron starts ala EU/NA LCS where a team has no clue what to do so they just go yolo baron. From the enemy adc just flashing over a wall for no reason into a jungler and dying.

IT was literally a shit-show. And the entire time, you got Monte and some other moron, talking about how bad NA LCS is, as I watch this crap go on.

The korean kool-aid is rediculous in this game. IF you dont believe me, go watch the damn vod for how bad that series was. That was epic levels of just bad. Just damn bad play.

FrankerXMar 17, 20161 votes

monte is always talking smack man. he is caster of a 3 time world champ region. but thats what ppl love him for i guess.

and agreed i saw the LZ vs cj games and yea... even madlife, my fave support since season 2 played so bad i wanted to turn off.

DestructoDaveMar 18, 20161 votes

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monte is always talking smack man. he is caster of a 3 time world champ region. but thats what ppl love him for i guess.

and agreed i saw the LZ vs cj games and yea... even madlife, my fave support since season 2 played so bad i wanted to turn off.

Seriously. That could have been the worst played series I think Ive ever seen. And what was so ironic about it, was listening to the casters bad mouth NA LCS the entire series while Im watching horrendous misplays and poor plays for 3 hours of game time. I mean damn, they go into the base, and dont even finish the inhib, and then try to kill the nexus turrets and they are invuln, then they start flashing and running and failing, and the one person the bad enemy team can even kill, they poppy ult to safety out of the base. It was like what happens in a low elo solo Q game. The kindred not having mana to ult, etc. just a horrendous series to watch. But the icing on the cake, was listening to all the NA LCS trash talk while all this was going on.

XantakMar 18, 20161 votes

Monte and Helios also talked shit about the matches between Longzhu and CJ Entus, BETWEEN Longzhu and CJ Entus. Especially how CJ loves to lose the early and mid-game, and hope that they can turtle up long enough for their scaling. Did they crap all over NA LCS? Yep. I would too, if I saw a certain team GIVE the Rift Herald a fucking double kill, or a tower netting a double kill on the opposite team, like I dunno...that Renegades vs Dignitas match. Seriously, that takes a special kind of "drunk on fail" fuckery to pull that off from both NA LCS teams. Throws, upon throws, upon throws. But the two casters also crapped all over the two Korean teams in the Longzhu/CJ Entus series.

By the way, the NA region IS currently a joke. You've got TSM floundering around with their inconsistencies, Dignitas and Renegades constantly shitting the bed during this split. Even IMT has shown that they aren't bulletproof. And when was the last time you saw NA have real international success, not counting 2015 IEM Katowice?

After watching the EU though, I think that March Madness has banged them with surprises as well within the past 24 hours.