League of Legends Hall of Fame?

DCatBoone·May 14, 2016·4 votes·3,225 views

I was thinking that eventually there should be a Hall to be a HOF'er, accomplishments, consistency, performance in their region, performance at international events, popularity etc.

Here are my picks for HOF'ers, and players that should be considered for the HOF once they eventually retire, admittedly I'm from NA so I am not super familiar with players from the other regions.

Retired Guys Reginald, HotshotGG, SaintVicious, Dyrus, The Odd One, XPeke (Plus many more I'm sure from Korea, China, EU, many of the guys who led the way, the first LoL stars are slowly slipping from memory, which is why a Hall would be nice)

Future Hall of Famers

Faker, Froggen, Westdoor, Aphromoo, Hai, Lemonnation, Yellowstar, Bjergsen, Loulex, Febiven, Rekkles, Doublelift, Marin, CPT Jack, Madlife, Uzi, Imp, Clearlove, Deft, Mata, GodV, Kakao, Impact, Insec, Pawn, Dade, Alex Ich, XiYang

I'm sure there are a lot more, but that's what I have so far. What do you guys think? And do you think Riot should create a hall of fame in the next few years? The average career for a pro player seems to be like 3 years, very few play more than that, so unlike traditional sports, it's kind of hard to create a perfect set of criteria. I was going based off regional results (Dyrus, Odd One didn't do well internationally, but they consistently were the best team in NA for several Splits, and internationally). Regi is a no brainer considering all he has done for the Esports scene, along with HotshotGG, SaintVicious was one of the most popular figures in the LoL pro scene at it's conception and has definitely left his mark on the sport. That's my defense for the NA guys.

41 Comments

TurquoiseYoshiMay 14, 20162 votes

I feel like there should be a larger esports HOF rather than just a LoL HOF.

DCatBooneMay 14, 20161 votes

problem with that would be how to quantify the wide variance in stats between games. plus the companies that created the different games, and organize the different events / leagues would actually have to work together.. riot could do it easily since they own LoL and the LCS, so for league they own everything, so they have all the necessary rights. combining a HOF incorporating all the games in esports would take a lot of cooperation between corporations that would prefer the others not exist.. not a bad idea though but it would have to be run by fans

TurquoiseYoshiMay 14, 20161 votes

Maybe run by fans, maybe run by a separate company, possibly even Intel since they run ESL. I still think it's a nicer idea to have an esports HOF, even if it's not as easy to do.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

that's the thing though, Riot owns and operates the majority of the LoL events, so if Intel had league players in an esports HOF it would be confined to only teams and players that have played at IEM

TurquoiseYoshiMay 15, 20161 votes

They don't have to. Although pretty much every important player has, at some point.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

the sample size though would make it really hard though if they just used IEM... based on his IEM performance, Faker wouldn't be a HoF'er

III BAKURYU III May 14, 20162 votes

I would love a Hall of Fame for League of Legends can't say much about Esports Hall of Fame as I don't watch CS go or any other form of Esports other than League LCS-LCK-LPL etc etc. I would Also love a ALL TIME Leader board of the players stats since 2013 but thats not happening anytime soon.

DCatBooneMay 14, 20162 votes

yea an all time leader board with like career KDA, total kills etc. would be awesome.. also minutes spent on the rift and stuff like that. those sort of stats help distinguish HOF caliber players vs regular good players. Dyrus and Yellowstar are the only ones to have been in every single regional final since they started their careers, obviously dyrus retired so yellowstar has 1 more than him right now

III BAKURYU III May 14, 20163 votes

Its not much did it up a while ago and sent it to Riot but they don't seem to care much about it ;[
I don't have the minutes sorry.

ADRIAN 54-34-123-632-1433 AMAZING 92-223-203-628-12286 APHROMOO 136-110-340-1285-3413 APOLLO 82-315-188-469-24824 BALLS 140-373-336-898-35280 BETSY 46-147-109-205-14324 BJERGSEN 155-799-349-844-49021 COP 130-581-223-722-39900 CRUMBZ 133-244-422-962-17427 DARSHAN 164-489-424-822-41220 DIAMONDPROX 145-361-411-1013-21526 DOUBLELIFT 164-815-408-859-52652 DYRUS 148-366-336-984-38049 EDWARD 149-156-444-1373-5311 FEBIVEN 54-245-96-340-16977 FENIX 56-221-132-341-19590 FORGIVEN 80-265-132-423-29462 FOX 54-245-140-281-15884 FREDY 110-188-296-619-31178 FROGGEN 155-658-327-908-53138 HAI 130-451-353-1009-29726 HAUNTZER 55-159-137-344-14113 HJARNAN 54-242-87-293-17658 HUNI 54-228-150-442-13579 HYLLISANG 54-32-190-519-1753 IMAQTPIE 112-455-245-645-33039 IWILLDOMINATE 95-204-240-711-13003 JANKOS 111-282-247-664-16430 KEANE 37-120-110-230-11168 KEITH 23-102-52-104-7565 KIKIS 50-141-136-386-7582 KIWIKID 165-279-524-1149-15897 KREPO 117-117-363-918-3205 LEMONNATION 122-113-335-1165-3447 LINK 127-478-306-771-34152 LOULEX 46-74-122-358-4982 METEOS 113-292-182-908-16745 NRATED 129-121-330-1160-3877 NUKEDUCK 85-300-183-459-27157 NYPH 132-116-375-1210-3770 ODDONE 84-179-218-761-10181 ODOANNME 54-149-135-383-13270 PIGLET 50-222-81-295-16417 POBELTER 111-395-292-644-32589 QUAS 94-249-247-624-24793 REIGNOVER 54-159-133-488-6903 REKKLES 110-517-139-564-38216 RUSH 55-163-151-472-7101 SAINT 82-146-272-729-10318 SCARRA 82-32-227-453-20618 SHIPHTUR 139-519-264-620-41705 SHOOK 102-218-255-706-14001 SNEAKY 140-637-249-812-41340 SOAZ 175-421-353-1014-38857 STEELBACK 36-183-53-233-11781 TABZZ 114-461-226-562-36640 VANDER 111-85-210-823-3802 VIZICACSI 54-150-166-367-13249 VOYBOY 111-416-310-646-30677 WICKD 126-281-313-775-33487 WILDTURTLE 151-739-338-889-45181 XMITHIE 140-282-379-1081-21532 XPECIAL 150-127-398-1513-4582 XPEKE 132-635-353-805-37387 YELLOWSTAR 166-269-371-1584-15217

NAME GAMES PLAYED KILLS DEATHS ASSISTS CS

DCatBooneMay 14, 20161 votes

you did this? wow nice! having the minutes would only allow you to take the numbers divided by the minutes, and see how effective they were on an even playing field like avg KDA per 30min

III BAKURYU III May 15, 20161 votes

Yeah there isn't a page of their total kills-deaths- etc etc but there are their stats per split on the lolesports site.

I had to calculate and add up their stats myself for each and every player. Took about 3 full days( A LOT OF COFFEE) Yeah I would love the minutes played too as I'm a huge stat person and the mins would help.

DREADN0UGHTMay 14, 20161 votes

To be honest I'm unsure as to why that is not already existing.

TheOddOne lol poor guy can't even get to high diamond anymore. He rusty af.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

have you seen his youtube channel? most of his videos are of other games now haha. he's been on a pokemon yellow tear recently

DREADN0UGHTMay 15, 20162 votes

I saw his stream was running 2 days ago and he was playing Civilisation V... I love that game! But watching someone play is probably as fun as diping overcut nails into vinagre avec eating BBQ chips...

RendDuzitMay 14, 20161 votes

alex ich i dont really agree with... hall of fame we should be exceptionally good people not just popular.. like there is very few people for basketball hall of fame.. like faker would be 100% on there and probably other world champions...

EXasinezMay 14, 20161 votes

I think he is good enough. He was former moscow five, he led this team to s1 final

ShadowatomMay 14, 20161 votes

I don't think "good enough" should be what is put into a hall of fame. It should really be fairly certain if someone should be put in, nothing along the lines of, well, they did pretty good for a little while. And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to come off as rude nor do I think Alex Ich is a bad player, but I think he'd be more of a retired jersey (which probably won't ever happen since players don't have numbers) than a Hall of Fame title. As RendDuzit said, I think people like Faker, Bengi, kkOma (coaches should definitely be recognized more often tbh), Mata, Looper, etc. should definitely be put in imo.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

i gave Alex Ich a little cred for being around in S1, but yea, over his career he hasn't won much. However, you could make the case that since Dyrus never did well internationally, best was the Quarter Finals i believe at Worlds, that he doesn't have the credentials either.. except Dyrus appeared in every single NA finals during his career, Yellowstar is the only active player to also have done so. No one would say that Dyrus was a top 10 top laner, but he is definitely worthy of being in a Hall of Fame imo.. and i agree with the coaches needing to be recognized more 100%

ShadowatomMay 15, 20161 votes

Perhaps a regional and international HoF then? Because I do agree that some players were outstanding for their region, but couldn't do well internationally and they should be recognized, but I think that it should obviously be taken into account that they were above average, but not the BEST. Idk, I'm sure we could figure something out that honors players like Dyrus, but Looper or Marin imo are much more worthy of a HoF title than Dyrus would be. Either way, the players would need to retire as per how HoFs usually work (at least that's how Hockey works, not so sure about anything else, so correct me if I'm wrong ^_^).

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

yea Dyrus is retired. Hall of Fames don't just have the GOAT's you know.. people who excelled and were consistently at the top of their respected roles or what have you. No basketball person would say Dennis Rodman was ever the best PF in the league during his tenure, but he is in the HOF, as is Mutumbo, and Jo Jo White. The reason i bring them up is because it kind of show cases my point. They were good, but never the best of the best. So in Esports, LoL, someone who is consistently the best in their region definitely deserves to be in a HOF along side the GOAT's ... I would argue that someone who is absolutely amazing in Korea, but never makes it to worlds and always finishes in the middle of the pack has less of an argument to be HOF than someone like Dyrus who made it every year he played. I wasn't thinking of anyone in particular, but i'm sure there are several korean top laners who could shit on Dyrus, but who also never got to worlds. World Cyber Games Champion 2011, Na s2 regional finals 2012, IPL San Fran 2012, Gigabyte Esports Lan 2012, MLG Pro Circuit 2012, Reign of Gaming International 2012, IGN, Leaguecraft, Fatal1ty Gaming gear tourney 2012, NA Spring split seaon 3, Na Summer Playoffs 2014, All Stars 2015, NA Spring 2015, IEM IX.. and those are only the things he won 1st place..

ShadowatomMay 15, 20161 votes

I see your point, and I will agree with you now. I'll be honest and admit that I never thought about that, so I'm glad you brought it up. Either way, I would be glad to see Dyrus in a HoF along with many others. (Also, I know Dyrus is retired, I was talking more about the others on your list such as Faker, Mata, InSec, imp, Uzi, etc. ^-^).

But there would have to be a limit imo to how many can be entered at a time, otherwise it becomes less treasured, you know? Like the list you have is pretty good with a few exceptions (Alex Ich imo, but we'll leave that for later, yes?), but putting all of them in at once is kind of... too much, isn't it? (Not the already long retired players though, of course we'd have to go back and take note of them, and they've waited long enough). It's just my opinion though, maybe we could get everyone in as they retire and such.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

oh you missed it, there are two lists, one of retired people and the huge list is of people i know or think are still playing... Reginald, HotshotGG, SaintVicious, Dyrus, The Odd One, XPeke was my list of retired guys.. though XPeke keeps doing the same thing as Hai and retires and then returns..

ShadowatomMay 15, 20162 votes

Whoops! My bad. Well, we'll see if these guys get a Hall I suppose, finger crossed! :)

III BAKURYU III May 15, 20161 votes

Yeah their like Michael Jordan at this point. XD but I don't mind seeing a Great player and Hall of fame Candidate show back up and play a few games here and there.

III BAKURYU III May 15, 20161 votes

I agree Dyrus should be in the Hall of Fame one day if you ask me. 3x NA champion only a handful of players are 3x ( WIldturtle I think and .. I think thats it) that I can think of at the moment. The best NA top for years as well to show for his career. He got camped and had no help from his team and still managed to be a factor in helping TSM win games.

When can we say that in solo Q for our top laner?

Miror BMay 14, 20161 votes

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I think he is good enough. He was former moscow five, he led this team to s1 final

If we're looking over his entire career though, he's been at best average. Definitely not the best mid laner of all time, debatable whether he'd be in the top 10 or not.

III BAKURYU III May 15, 20161 votes

We also have to remember that League was a huge sport scene before 2013. Alex Ich was 1 of the best EU players in the world. However I haven't seen him play before 2013 so I don't know. I do know that LCK and I think LPL was not playing the game until about a year after it came it for NA and EU. That is why the First ever Worlds was really just 1 big NA vs EU tournament.
Hall of Fame for ALex Ich? ME- 6 out of 10.

MasziiMay 15, 20161 votes

Lol Alex was one of the best midlaners in S1/2/3. He's outclassed now yes, but still decent.

PDE5 InhibMay 14, 20161 votes

Bro. You listed so many players lol.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

only enough players for roughly 7 teams.. and there are many more than 7 teams in the EU LCS, NA LCS, LPL, LCK, LMS and all those wild card regions

III BAKURYU III May 15, 20161 votes

Yeah sorry I would do up for all the region players LCS, NA, LPL etc but the problem is that their is no Leader board to show it so if want to find out for example Dyrus's all time stats for the Regular season stats you have to find them on the lol esports site and add up the numbers yourself. Took me about 3 days to do that alone for 60+ players for NA and EU alone.

III BAKURYU III May 15, 20161 votes

Yeah, League is my passion and I wanted to give this to riot to show them that I would like a job as some sort of stat person but they don't seem to care much about it. I sent them this list personally and no real response so I gave up on continuing the player stats.

I wanted to also do the players stats for playoffs but not for the 3-4 5-6 place stats as I look at the playoffs like this if you are eliminated from the REAL playoffs for the Championship your stats should not be counted.

I created my own post on the boards but only got like 30 people to view it so that hurts and I don't see a real reason in doing the work if no one cares about it.

Smart KittyMay 15, 20161 votes

It's an interesting idea, but I think you have way too many players, lol. I don't see why Lemon and Loulex should be on it either. I think it should be based on both domestic and international sucess over the entirety of a player's career.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

if C9 can return to form it would help Lemon's case as he is currently the head coach. Before they had real coaches he was the mind behind their pick and bans. His role on the team wasn't so much based on his mechanical skill, but for his ability to theory craft. The reason there are so many players is simply because there are 4 major regions with a crap ton of players in each.

Reaper SorakaMay 15, 20161 votes

Nightblue3 for best LoL stream.

Angry MonsterMay 15, 20161 votes

I think league needs to prove that is can last 15 years and be still relevant before a hall of fame can be talked about, we are roughly half way there at this point.

I think your list is way to long. A hall of fame member has to do something that special not just be popular. People like Dyrus should not qualify, sure he is iconic and should have a place in the history but he was never that great, he was more famous for wanting to play than playing.(camp dyruis reference).

People like Hai, Regi, and faker i can agree with. Hai mained 3 positions in the LCS was the shoot caller and pretty much made it so C9 existed in 2016. Hai is almost is league of legends c9. It does not exist without him. Hai might be the best shot caller in the world, even though not on the best team. So many people have respected his in game mind.

Faker, his accomplishments are already stuff of legends, so obvious

Regi owner, player, mastermind of TSM. Helped define league in NA. You could say the same thing about Hottshot but i always felt that he was less than Regi in all things, personality, branding, and presence. Though its hard to tell the story of TSM without Hotshot, and CLG story is lacking without mentioning TSM. So maybe both are needed.

DCatBooneMay 15, 20161 votes

imo you can't only look at international results. Dyrus was a winner, and one of the best tops in NA while he was active. The fact that he never missed an NA final, and made worlds EVERY year, that's something not even the godlike Faker can boast. There are 4 major regions. People who are consistently at the top of their region, regardless of international events have a place in a hall of fame. Someone in a comment said something about doing something similar to teams retiring players numbers (jerseys) for regional but really, the real cred to be in a hall of fame is owning your region. There are only 2 Riot led international tourneys, and the only teams there are teams that were the top in their region. I think a lot of people, like yourself, are going to discount players who excelled throughout two entire splits remaining #1 or #2, and then not doing all that well against the Koreans in the end of the season tourney. That is entirely unfair, in Dyrus's case, i didn't think about his popularity when choosing him, but the sheer amount of things he has won during his career, and he has won a lot. In pro LoL, there are different leagues, so being at the top of your league is really the best you can aim for, since the teams in your league are the ones you play against all year.

III BAKURYU III May 17, 20161 votes

Yeah I think having a Player and an owner HOF in two different categories or just having for example Faker-Player while having Regi-Owner. I know he played but lets say 2020 League does do a HOF that would be about 2-3 years of being a player before the official League LCS scene and 1 year in the official League as a player and about 6 years as just an owner.

As for Hotshot yeah he wasn't as successful as Regi and might not be time can only tell but Look at the Celtics vs Lakers rivalry The Celtics would always beat the Lakers but it was still a rivalry from the very start.

DCatBooneMay 18, 20161 votes

generally speaking there is 1 hall.. and players, coaches, announcers, owners, gm's etc. all go into it. The main criteria is usually 1. They were really good ( Faker, Michael Jordan) 2. Their career was filled with accomplishments and they played consistently (Dyrus, Charles Barkley) 3. They greatly contributed to the success of the sport (Regi, Red Auerbach) 4. Throughout their career they were consistently winning (kkOma, Pat Riley) 5. Made other significant contributions to the sport (Phreak idk.. ?, Tommy Heinsohn)

that's generally how it's done, those sort of categories

III BAKURYU III May 18, 20161 votes

Yeah I meant have a caption next to the player is all I was saying. So for example Faker (player) Phreak( Caster) You get the point XD