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Holy shit Alistar needs to be banned forever until they rework this stupid champion

IPlayTwitchUDie··3 votes·1,652 views

he literally carries entire teams with his easy to land, no risk, high reward CC

seriously fucking rework this champion already

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Yummy Sashimi7 votes

You clearly have no idea how the game went. Alistar isn't good in lane against ranged supports, especially nami. It was mata's roam/out of lane that won rng many fights. Main while mata was roaming, doublelift and bio were 2v1ing uzi, and they didn't punish him at all, so overall the tsm botlane played poorly and mata's team fight pulverize was fantastic, not because alistar is op.

IPlayTwitchUDie1 votes

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You clearly have no idea how the game went. Alistar isn't good in lane against ranged supports, especially nami. It was mata's roam/out of lane that won rng many fights. Main while mata was roaming, doublelift and bio were 2v1ing uzi, and they didn't punish him at all, so overall the tsm botlane played poorly and mata's team fight pulverize was fantastic, not because alistar is op.

I watched the game, so i know exactly how it went

alistar does nothing in lane until flash is up, and then during teamfights he carries the team entirely

yes mata is good at him

he is also completely and disgustingly broken.

BeatzBoyFTW6 votes

Oh look, a TSM fanboy.

So if Biofrost got Alistair instead and won, I bet you wouldn't be making this thread.

IPlayTwitchUDie2 votes

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Oh look, a TSM fanboy.

So if Biofrost got Alistair instead and won, I bet you wouldn't be making this thread.

Yes i actually would be, it's been years that this champion has made it through unchecked, his kit is so toxic

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

His CC may be destructive, but do note that his W & Q has high cooldown & mana cost, and if he missed/ruined the combo, he has no means of escape at all. Plus, if he were to missed/ruined his combo in teamfights, the enemy team can just simply ignore him & focus on his squishies without any interruption, making his ult pretty much neglected.

Requiemsfire2 votes

Thing is that even if it does have a high cooldown and mana cost, the combo itself has no real counterplay unless you wanna rely on him being bad or making a grevous mistake which I think makes him one of the best support picks. With thunderlords decree the old cow pretty much drives most botlanes into a complete unbreakable stalemate until laning phase is over or he wins pre-dominantly in many cases. There are a few botlanes where alistar is fairly weak against particularly poke lanes and in well i guess a lot of cases alistar doesn't get an opportunity to pull off his combo.

Limrick1 votes

Except mana cost and cooldown are irrelevant to a teamfight. All it takes is one combo, and it's inescapable without blowing flash. It's an insane amount of power to be put into basic abilities. Does Alistar need nerfs? No. Is the combo still unfair and lacking in counterplay? Yes, and that's how it's always been. The only reason Alistar is a balanced champ is because he has zero power outside the combo.

Slappybiscuit4 votes

QQ, gtfo

the problem is simply

Mata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your grandma>>>>Biofrost

IPlayTwitchUDie1 votes

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QQ, gtfo

the problem is simply

Mata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your grandma>>>>Biofrost

please don't come here and harass people on a perma'd account, we get it, you're mad.

Slappybiscuit2 votes

My account isn't Perma'd. Why would I be mad, you're the one complaining about one of the oldest champions in the game. I, like many others, are tired of the TSM chants, and overall TSM overhype and lack of respect for other teams in the tournament.

TheKind3 votes

Nah, in the hands of a regular player, Alistar is just a regular champ. Now that showcase, however, was probably the greatest game of Alistar I've ever seen.

Wh1teWu1f3 votes

There's a reason you don't give Mata the cow...

IPlayTwitchUDie1 votes

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There's a reason you don't give Mata the cow...

i'm just over the alistar and FOTM adc combo every year winning worlds. trist and twitch 2014, kalista 2015, now sivir or lucian or cait 2016

he needs to have much longer cds he shouldn't be using his combo upwards of 3-4 times per team fight

Wh1teWu1f4 votes

Have you played Ali? He very rarely gets to use his combo twice, let alone 3-4 times in a fight that lasts ~6-10 seconds.

Hemanth3 votes

The way Mata used the fog of war to get close was brilliant

Requiemsfire2 votes

To be honest, even in regular play and in the hands of a novice it's really hard to avoid an Alistar combo. :l

Hell Week1 votes

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To be honest, even in regular play and in the hands of a novice it's really hard to avoid an Alistar combo. :l

if i sometimes cant kill alistar in my bronze games i can only imagine his power in the hands of a challenger lol. shit cant be killed.

IPlayTwitchUDie1 votes

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To be honest, even in regular play and in the hands of a novice it's really hard to avoid an Alistar combo. :l

it used to at least required somewhat of a brain when the combo wasn't made easier to do by queuing the skills up

Rivuo2 votes

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he literally carries entire teams with his easy to land, no risk, high reward CC

seriously fucking rework this champion already

Tsm fanboy detected...

IPlayTwitchUDie1 votes

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Tsm fanboy detected...

average, every day forumgoer detected, low effort put down attempts, sad in real life, has to come here and assert dominance.

Rivuo2 votes

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average, every day forumgoer detected, low effort put down attempts, sad in real life, has to come here and assert dominance.

I promise you, if biofrost switched places with mata that game it would have had a different outcome.

Mata completely dominated and showed why HES in a professional team and you're not.

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

You give Mata his best support champ and you complain?

Worse, every LANE.... DID BAD WORSE.. they disrespect RNG. No ward around red...let takes red buff guys. They have wards to see Mata coming from a flank.. It's okay guy we have disengage.....

Shuten Ðoji1 votes

Idk why people are mad that a player who is known for his Alistar did exceptionally well on Alistar.

Oleandervine1 votes

Wow. What a troll post. Alistar hasn't been a problem in YEARS.

Any champion that a World's level player is proficient with is going to completely and udderly stomp a clumsy team with the correct team composition. Alistar did well, yes, but so did his team in general. Alistar has NEVER been pick/ban in ANY format in recent years, unlike Blitzcrank or Thresh, and he's not a roflstompfreelowin champ either like Zed and Kindred have been just this season. The player playing Alistar was simply an expert at the game, positioning, and fully aware of the extent of his abilities. That's all.

Fowus1 votes

probably wouldnt be making this thread if tsm won yesterday xd

IPlayTwitchUDie1 votes

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probably wouldnt be making this thread if tsm won yesterday xd

you're not the first, or 2nd person to say this, or even the 3rd,

i made this thread for the last 2 years as well, doesn't matter who wins one individual game throughout worlds with him.

SKT has him right now, guarantee he carries all of the team fights.

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