Holy shit Alistar needs to be banned forever until they rework this stupid champion
he literally carries entire teams with his easy to land, no risk, high reward CC
seriously fucking rework this champion already
he literally carries entire teams with his easy to land, no risk, high reward CC
seriously fucking rework this champion already
You clearly have no idea how the game went. Alistar isn't good in lane against ranged supports, especially nami. It was mata's roam/out of lane that won rng many fights. Main while mata was roaming, doublelift and bio were 2v1ing uzi, and they didn't punish him at all, so overall the tsm botlane played poorly and mata's team fight pulverize was fantastic, not because alistar is op.
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You clearly have no idea how the game went. Alistar isn't good in lane against ranged supports, especially nami. It was mata's roam/out of lane that won rng many fights. Main while mata was roaming, doublelift and bio were 2v1ing uzi, and they didn't punish him at all, so overall the tsm botlane played poorly and mata's team fight pulverize was fantastic, not because alistar is op.
I watched the game, so i know exactly how it went
alistar does nothing in lane until flash is up, and then during teamfights he carries the team entirely
yes mata is good at him
he is also completely and disgustingly broken.
Oh look, a TSM fanboy.
So if Biofrost got Alistair instead and won, I bet you wouldn't be making this thread.
Oh look, a TSM fanboy.
So if Biofrost got Alistair instead and won, I bet you wouldn't be making this thread.
Yes i actually would be, it's been years that this champion has made it through unchecked, his kit is so toxic
His CC may be destructive, but do note that his W & Q has high cooldown & mana cost, and if he missed/ruined the combo, he has no means of escape at all. Plus, if he were to missed/ruined his combo in teamfights, the enemy team can just simply ignore him & focus on his squishies without any interruption, making his ult pretty much neglected.
Thing is that even if it does have a high cooldown and mana cost, the combo itself has no real counterplay unless you wanna rely on him being bad or making a grevous mistake which I think makes him one of the best support picks. With thunderlords decree the old cow pretty much drives most botlanes into a complete unbreakable stalemate until laning phase is over or he wins pre-dominantly in many cases. There are a few botlanes where alistar is fairly weak against particularly poke lanes and in well i guess a lot of cases alistar doesn't get an opportunity to pull off his combo.
Except mana cost and cooldown are irrelevant to a teamfight. All it takes is one combo, and it's inescapable without blowing flash. It's an insane amount of power to be put into basic abilities. Does Alistar need nerfs? No. Is the combo still unfair and lacking in counterplay? Yes, and that's how it's always been. The only reason Alistar is a balanced champ is because he has zero power outside the combo.
QQ, gtfo
the problem is simply
Mata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your grandma>>>>Biofrost
QQ, gtfo
the problem is simply
Mata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your grandma>>>>Biofrost
please don't come here and harass people on a perma'd account, we get it, you're mad.
My account isn't Perma'd. Why would I be mad, you're the one complaining about one of the oldest champions in the game. I, like many others, are tired of the TSM chants, and overall TSM overhype and lack of respect for other teams in the tournament.
Nah, in the hands of a regular player, Alistar is just a regular champ. Now that showcase, however, was probably the greatest game of Alistar I've ever seen.
There's a reason you don't give Mata the cow...
There's a reason you don't give Mata the cow...
i'm just over the alistar and FOTM adc combo every year winning worlds. trist and twitch 2014, kalista 2015, now sivir or lucian or cait 2016
he needs to have much longer cds he shouldn't be using his combo upwards of 3-4 times per team fight
Have you played Ali? He very rarely gets to use his combo twice, let alone 3-4 times in a fight that lasts ~6-10 seconds.
The way Mata used the fog of war to get close was brilliant
To be honest, even in regular play and in the hands of a novice it's really hard to avoid an Alistar combo. :l
To be honest, even in regular play and in the hands of a novice it's really hard to avoid an Alistar combo. :l
it used to at least required somewhat of a brain when the combo wasn't made easier to do by queuing the skills up
he literally carries entire teams with his easy to land, no risk, high reward CC
seriously fucking rework this champion already
Tsm fanboy detected...
Tsm fanboy detected...
average, every day forumgoer detected, low effort put down attempts, sad in real life, has to come here and assert dominance.
average, every day forumgoer detected, low effort put down attempts, sad in real life, has to come here and assert dominance.
I promise you, if biofrost switched places with mata that game it would have had a different outcome.
Mata completely dominated and showed why HES in a professional team and you're not.
You give Mata his best support champ and you complain?
Worse, every LANE.... DID BAD WORSE.. they disrespect RNG. No ward around red...let takes red buff guys. They have wards to see Mata coming from a flank.. It's okay guy we have disengage.....
Idk why people are mad that a player who is known for his Alistar did exceptionally well on Alistar.
Wow. What a troll post. Alistar hasn't been a problem in YEARS.
Any champion that a World's level player is proficient with is going to completely and udderly stomp a clumsy team with the correct team composition. Alistar did well, yes, but so did his team in general. Alistar has NEVER been pick/ban in ANY format in recent years, unlike Blitzcrank or Thresh, and he's not a roflstompfreelowin champ either like Zed and Kindred have been just this season. The player playing Alistar was simply an expert at the game, positioning, and fully aware of the extent of his abilities. That's all.
probably wouldnt be making this thread if tsm won yesterday xd
probably wouldnt be making this thread if tsm won yesterday xd
you're not the first, or 2nd person to say this, or even the 3rd,
i made this thread for the last 2 years as well, doesn't matter who wins one individual game throughout worlds with him.
SKT has him right now, guarantee he carries all of the team fights.