Oh wow, 2 Asian teams in the finals...again.
I honestly didn't see this coming at all. [sg-lulu]
I honestly didn't see this coming at all. [sg-lulu]
Not just 2 Asian teams.. 2 Korean teams... and not just 2 Korean teams... the same 2 Korean teams as last years finals.
Oh wow others failed again and learnt nothing from 6 years
Cant really learn much whens theres like 1 or 2 international tournaments the entire season.
Cant really learn much whens theres like 1 or 2 international tournaments the entire season.
The number of international tournaments shouldn't make a difference. All regions have very similar season lengths. All regions play the same patch. All regions have this thing called the internet, which allows them to watch what other teams are doing around the world....
Not like nobody sees what Korea is doing until a major tournament and they play on a patch before its released.
As much as I want to be disappointed by this years finals, its completely expected that it would come down to SKT vs some other Korean team. NA blew it as usual, its actually really funny how TSM couldn't put up any sort of a fight. Misfits was the only non eastern team that showed any sort of competence this year.
I don't watch every Esports game, but one thing that I've noticed is that Korea comes up with all the strategies, and NA tries to emulate them. NA hasn't really come up with any new strats or picks, they just copy Korea. Since Korea is always on the cutting edge with strategies, they not only know how to counter the strategies they have already made, but they have the element of surprise with them when they bust out the new strats on another region. I guess League is just taken much more seriously in Korea.
I dont know if its just me or what, but it sure does seem like Korea and China deserve every victory they have achieved.
I been following closely and i expected exactly SKT versus SSG. About SSG there was never doubt and SKT looked shaky, but they still win everything as expected.
NA hasn't really come up with any new strats or picks, they just copy Korea.
Oh boi.
No wonder NA players threaten reports if you go off meta.
They are copying pros down to their fundamentals.
can't blame the Asians for being better than NA.
not like NA is really NA anyway, it's mostly all Asians and a token white guy
Going to add in EU.
This is like complaining that there are too many blacks in the NBA
Biological realities.
<Removed by Moderation>yet all the games that are "korean dominated" are american made. Maybe white people just have different priorities :thinking:
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yet all the games that are "korean dominated" are american made. Maybe white people just have different priorities :thinking:
Koreans dominate all games
Korean and American made
Dominate all games? Nice. You ever see them play CSGO, they suck ass.
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Quite sure white people are more intelligent in general
no
Every IQ test measures that Asians have a higher Bell Curve
There are simply more white outliers that are geniuses at the top end. Asians on an aggregate have proven to have the higher IQ.
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no
Every IQ test measures that Asians have a higher Bell Curve
There are simply more white outliers that are geniuses at the top end. Asians on an aggregate have proven to have the higher IQ.
are asians black though?
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This is like complaining that there are too many blacks in the NBA
Biological realities.
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I went ahead and removed the offensive content from your post. Lets not go down this road.
You know China is in Asia right?
k? and?
This was already known....
This was already known....
Whatever you're implying, judging by the flow of this, it's probably dumb.
Simple: LCK is Korean which is Asian. LPL is Chinese which is Asian! A "2 Asian teams in Finals" was already known for a week!
The OP implies that Korean teams are the only "Asian" teams. Got it?
that not what im saying at all LOL
I know. Just picking at context and being a bad critic. Better that than think gloomy about the whole picture
Simple: LCK is Korean which is Asian. LPL is Chinese which is Asian! A "2 Asian teams in Finals" was already known for a week!
The OP implies that Korean teams are the only "Asian" teams. Got it?
Well there's a chance that you may be over-thinking this, maybe OP just posted this because grand final is right upon is, despite knowing this particular outcome (thread's premise) a week ago.
Who knows.
I honestly didn't see this coming at all.
Great. Then why are you whining on these boards? Do you want Riot to ban all Asian teams or what...?
yeah that'd be great honestly. finally get some diversity in the finals
But NA is full of asians and a white dude mixed in here and there. Oh, and a black guy. Come on now, lol "diversity" Maybe EU and NA need to strive just a little harder then? It's not the Eastern sides fault here for being lucky / better (in some cases) at the game.
Team diversity, not race.
Again, let's take your point and place it there. Then what? It'll be the battle of who's the best at being mediocre at the game, if you're taking out people who work 8 hours+ a day to achieve the tourny at the end of the year. Work ethics in the US would have to change if you want US to be even remotely competitive. EU had the biggest chance of all, and it was down to someone mis-calculating, which shouldn't have happened. SKT could probably lose, but are you really going to dog on the korean teams for winning, when they clearly deserved it?
I see about 90% of the populace bitching about it because of fucking skins. SKINS. They don't want SKT to win because they want a different fucking skin for a fucking champion.
Then the rest 10% are btiching because NA/EU (put up a good fight, and I'm talking about C9 and Misfits) didn't make it... So, in hindsight, who exactly are you bitching at? NA/EU or KR/China?
who cares dude. SKT winning all the time gets fucking boring. get over it. its facts.
I know that it's because NA and EU suck, but I am still tired to see them win, especially SKT.
Weird how players that played in NA are now in the finals of worlds in a Korean organization. And also wierd how former champions come to NA or EU and can never win. It would almost make one think its a coaching/culture issue. People in the west seem to cry if they dont get their way. Look at pro sports...making muillions and seem to be so butthurt if something doesnt go their way.
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Weird how players that played in NA are now in the finals of worlds in a Korean organization. And also wierd how former champions come to NA or EU and can never win. It would almost make one think its a coaching/culture issue. People in the west seem to cry if they dont get their way. Look at pro sports...making muillions and seem to be so butthurt if something doesnt go their way.
That is an interesting point, maybe it is a culture thing. Asians over there are so strict about anything they do really, way back in high school we had a girl from over there somewhere (I forget), I am the type that could sleep through math class and still ace the exams, and she worked really hard for her As, so I would always have like battles with her, but they were fun to me and they are like super serious to her.
I absolutely concur. And it’s not just an issue of personal seriousness or personal expectation. You have much diverse and powerful, positive and negative, social forces at play. For example, outside of a relatively small community, in NA and EU, telling someone you’re an eSports athlete is to have them silently judge you for not contributing in some tangible way to your society. In Asian culture, you’re more likely to receive some level of respect for most occupations, especially if you dedicate a significant amount of time and effort to reach mastery, eSports included. This is a form of positive social pressure.
Then there’s also the potential personal and familial expectations that individuals of the culture are expected to meet. In many Southeastern Asian cultures (and honestly Asian cultures in general) family reigns supreme. The image you project and how it can affect your family’s reputation is huge. This could likely be a more negative form of social pressure that NA and EU teams simply don’t face.
Ultimately, culutural differences ensure that the stakes are always that much higher for Asian teams than NA or EU.
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