None of our teams got to quarters this year. EU has 3. At the end of the day, our rivals are our closest friends and we all know we would love to see them win it over the regular winners... 200 years ago we were all neighbors. CHEERS TO OUR NEIGHBORS LETS GOOOO!!
Vidiot14 votesLmao I see what you are trying to do, but sorry. I'm rooting for Korea/china. EU is our "rival" but they never ever in a million games will show any sign of respect to us. So it is what it is. Lets go skt!
Jennifer4204 votesi wouldnt say that. if you ignore the casters trying to hype the na vs eu bullshit AND YOU IGNORE TWITCH CHAT which is like the most stupid place ever, you find some respect. i supported liquid today. and i supported c9.
i also prefer na to win worlds rather than korea/china again.
Vidiot1 votesOh don't get me wrong, the only eastern team I want to win worlds is really SKT. Other than that I would prefer a western. It just seems like Korea and China are popping off this Worlds, while us western teams aren't having as good of performances. And I say that with how well G2 did because they got destroyed on the last day by Griffon. THough fanatic did play way better. IF fanatic would play like that, they could have been 1st seed from LEC imo.
Saezio1 votesPls don't put NA and EU in the same pool as "western teams". One region was tied with KR with 3/3 teams getting to quarters, while the other region tied Every Region that isn't CN KR EU with 0% success rate.
Vidiot1 votesImagine being the perfect example of what my original comment was about. You don't support us, so why should we support you? You should never look down upon someone unless you are helping them up.
Now that G2 has defeated SKT (who I was rooting for), I now am pulling for G2 to win it all. The only reason I wouldn't want them to do so, is because of what it will make some of you delusional EU people think. You think just because your pro teams are better than ours, or some other regions, you think it applies that you yourselves are just in general "better". Which I will say that compared to NA soloque, it may be true. But in no way you can say KR solo que is worst than EU. And if you think that, you deserve a padded room.
Saezio1 votesWhat? Of course I support Western teams when they are vs eastern teams. What kind of messed up person doesn't root for the underdog?
You didn't separate the western teams, but you separated the east as china and KR in your comment. That's why I am saying you can't just say western teams and average them out when every NA team did worse than every EU team.
I am not disrespecting NA, I am saying that your "western team" generalization makes no sense. It's the same as if you put LMS and the Japanese teams in the same phrase of "eastern" teams as china and korea.
Vidiot1 votesI mean its a generally known term for EU/NA regions to be considered "western". Even out of league.
And I know NA pro scene is not as competitive as some of the other major regions, but I am no way able to say what they could do better. Any single LCS pro would destroy me in a game, the highest elo i've made so far is P2. My original comment more in depth is basically saying that I don't normally see EU fans support NA, so when I see an EU player mad about NA fans supporting KR/CH teams it makes no sense.
Worst JG Wins6 votesi wouldnt say that. if you ignore the casters trying to hype the na vs eu bullshit AND YOU IGNORE TWITCH CHAT which is like the most stupid place ever, you find some respect. i supported liquid today. and i supported c9.
i also prefer na to win worlds rather than korea/china again.
you mean like clown 9 and clutch shaming?
EU why you lying bro?
Jennifer4202 votesif someone talks smack, i talk smack back.
also i can still cheer for a team and still call their performance a clowns show if it was.
Worst JG Wins2 votesif someone talks smack, i talk smack back.
also i can still cheer for a team and still call their performance a clowns show if it was.
Nobody was talking smack kid.
Also fuck EU and China both are trying to censor the internet. Let's go Griffin SKT
Jennifer4201 votesthere was but w/e.
also theres a difference between china censoring and eu trying to censor. in eu, the people go on the streets to tell our politicans to fuck off
Saezio1 votesYou are basically trying to censor memes too. So, I guess by your logic... I should tell you to... [slayer-jinx-wink]
Saezio1 votesYou can like an organisation (I like C9 a lot) but disapprove of some shit they do. Like, seriously keeping sneaky as ADC is just delusional. He is terrible compared to almost every worlds adc (even the wildcard ones). I would call them clowns for keeping him because of his approval rate.
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Talisid10 votesmemes like this: https://i.imgflip.com/3drail.jpg
have nothing to do with respect or disrespect. Is just fun stuff people do (memes) to have fun. I was rooting for TL to win too to have the epic 4 west vs 4 east quarters... didn't go as planned so you get memed. Don't be mad about it and have fun.
Joke or not the CONSTANT negativity from EU towards the NA teams is not inspiring me to root for their favorite teams at all. Why should NA fans feel anything but callousness towards EU teams? At least the Koreans aren't on here posting 10+ threads every time NA loses a game.
giottononfauncaz2 votesSo what you are telling me is that the only reason you don't root for EU it is because you don't speak Korean. Why don't you look a bit of interviews translated where koreans coaches talk about NA and EU. Then you ll see how much respect they have in general toward the west.
Talisid4 votesWhat I'm saying is I don't feel the need to cheer for either one over the other, and I probably should be hype for the EU teams considering I watch them fairly often but all the toxicity is off putting.
OHminus4 votes???? Koreans are nothing but respectful towards the west, I speak Korean. I AM Korean and I've never heard of a single interview of an eastern player/coach dissing a western team. Every interview is "we can do better, we hope to show a better performance. Also, we want to play G2"
That's it.
giottononfauncaz1 votesThey are more polite. They say things like "EU and NA are bad regions that sometimes came with 1 great team but overall the regions are bad". Still I don't think that someone that says politely "you suck" is better than someone who say literally "you suck". At least for me being polite or not is not important if in between the lines the message is "duuud your region suck".
Saezio1 votesSo, what about the KR fans? Because I haven't heard an eu interview where the player or coach said anything toxic towards NA. (sure some banter here and there like "I hope we draw NA in worlds") I bet KR and CN chat from fans is way more degrading for NA. Eu chat is just shit talking.
OHminus1 votesYou're comparing fans and pros - mistake #1
KR chat is not degrading at all. I saw so many "Let's go C9!" or "Huni 힘내라!" (Don't give up Huni!) as well as support for TL (only when they were playing against other teams. Ofc Koreans would root for DWG). Meanwhile EU Chat just spams "NA LUL" or constantly memes about sending NA home (or spams EU > NA, which is true, but they don't need to shove it in).
You bet KR/CN chat from fans is way more degrading for NA? How can you say that with confidence if you don't understand Korean or Chinese? I have very rudimentary knowledge of Chinese so I can barely understand anything but if anything China is way more harsh towards their own teams, they don't care about the west. Korean fans are somewhat harsh in the post game commentary but that's because they root for teams with koreans on them (hence, the NA teams. Even C9 has Reapered)
Saezio1 votesI think not even considering someone a rival, or a worthy opponent is way worse than trashtalking them. But that's just me. I don't believe KR fans ever said amongst themselves "Gee, DWG got drawn in TL group, they need to keep an eye out or they might be surprised" I think they would be like "Ez Quarters GG"
For example, I think what IG did in MSI was very degrading towards TL (at least it came back to bite them) they didn't even consider they needed to prepare for TL so they just went for it yolo style. That's way worse than someone saying NA is bad. It's the same as when a parent lets their kid win but if the kid understands it feels like shit.
OHminus1 votes???
If you even looked at Inven forums Koreans were worried about getting out of Group D, and they weren't even sure if Griffin would perform well enough to get 1st in group A. The only team they were sure would get first was SKT and rightfully so.
Worst JG Wins1 votesmemes like this: https://i.imgflip.com/3drail.jpg
have nothing to do with respect or disrespect. Is just fun stuff people do (memes) to have fun. I was rooting for TL to win too to have the epic 4 west vs 4 east quarters... didn't go as planned so you get memed. Don't be mad about it and have fun.
Haha Racist fetish porn is so funny haha [slayer-jinx-unamused]
TrashCommun1ty1 votesLmao I see what you are trying to do, but sorry. I'm rooting for Korea/china. EU is our "rival" but they never ever in a million games will show any sign of respect to us. So it is what it is. Lets go skt!
Funny tho, last year when c9 made it to semis I saw a couple of comments in the comment section of yt from EU fans cheering for c9, and instead of getting thankful answers these type of comments got only extreme trashtalk and flame towards Europe. Yeah , this type of kind and humble Europeans might be very rare case, but I haven't seen even this from NA.
Saezio1 votesAnd you think KR and CN respect you more?
Sure. Did you even see how IG treated TL in MSI? They were so cocky they didn't even prepare for them.
Jeanne fan club4 votesWell the feeling definitely isn't mutual. did you not see all the handicap region jokes after NA got rolled? Like Jesus, that's not the crowd I want to be supporting
GelsominoKiller1 votesDo you think that, if the situation was the other way around, NA wouldn't be spamming non-stop?
That's... part of the rivalry I guess. Not that I condone the behavior, but don't act like NA hasn't done the same in the past, whenever they won something.
IronyAndSublime2 votesDo you think that, if the situation was the other way around, NA wouldn't be spamming non-stop?
That's... part of the rivalry I guess. Not that I condone the behavior, but don't act like NA hasn't done the same in the past, whenever they won something.
Considering EU is the more toxic cesspool, we probably wouldn't. Sure, EU is better, but at least we didn't spawn L9.
Jeanne fan club1 votesDo you think that, if the situation was the other way around, NA wouldn't be spamming non-stop?
That's... part of the rivalry I guess. Not that I condone the behavior, but don't act like NA hasn't done the same in the past, whenever they won something.
Yeah NA would def be doing the same shit if the situation was reversed. I won't deny that. In fact, considering NA has been so horrible on the world stage for so long it would probably be days of non-stop spamming. I don't keep up with a lot of ESports but I do remember seeing a lot of pro NA trashtalking during MSI and such.
Der Lindwurm3 votesWhat on earth are you talking about?
IncrediPhiLL3 votes100% agree with this. I’ll always root for EU over Eastern teams and I’m happy to still have 3 teams to root for.
With that being said, these EU fans on the NA boards suck. They hate their country so much that they come our boards to shitpost. We’re all on the same team here.
Yordle Xayah1 votes100% agree with this. I’ll always root for EU over Eastern teams and I’m happy to still have 3 teams to root for.
With that being said, these EU fans on the NA boards suck. They hate their country so much that they come our boards to shitpost. We’re all on the same team here.
I see your C9 icon... you're legally married to me because C9 and FNC married via Twitter :)
IncrediPhiLL2 votesLove you BB!
GeminiRune2 votesI'm a fan of the competition. I also like being a bit crazy with who I bank my hopes on. So hell why not. Energy to EU. Energy to change!
ChompyWulf2 votesSorry, but no. First team I cheered for was SKT. A buddy got me into watching World's in Season 3 and I loved watching Bengi and Faker. I'll keep cheering for them. (I miss Bengi, poor guy was badly underrated.)
Slim Gragas2 votesN OMEGALUL
FlashNeko1 votesI'll support G2 and Splyce at least.
III BAKURYU III 1 votesI don't think EU teams need NA energy!
Jennifer4201 votesyay look at you finally someone who stands above the casters trying to hype this na vs eu bullshit. it is appreciated.
QuZeed YT1 votesBoi, I see that there the power of anime is in your side. Fairy Tail ladies and gentlemen
tunehunter1 votesHey guys I usually just watch worlds and I like to cheer for the western teams, starting NA, but I usually have an issue figuring out which teams are from which regions outside the NA ones. So can someone let me know which teams are EU. I Know Fnatic, but beyond that I actually dont know who is and isnt EU.
Edit: to be clear have nothing against china or Korea I just live in the west so I cheer for the west :).
EPIKON1 votesAs an OG Najin fan, KR first then NA second.
Fuck EU and CN.
ßluę1 votesHave you seen the EU fans? So disrespectful towards our region it's actually appalling. Alittle banter is fine here and there because that's what rivals do but they take it on such a low level that it paints such a terrible image. I genuinely would root for them in the past but the majority have gotten so out of hand and prideful, it's just not a region I'm willing to root for. Go SKT!
DBS Ronovon1 votesDid anyone see the dong posts the EU sent us? Why would I send them any energy at all?
