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ßluę··2 votes·1,048 views

I was reviewing LoL pro teams that I liked and I came across this guy getting banned (supposedly perma) for flaming as well as poor sportsmanship. I was wondering how he got un-banned because it really puts in to question Riot's care for non-toxicity, if he truly got banned for flaming I think he should've stayed perma banned as that kind of behavior is unacceptable especially for a eSports player.

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Hasztalan24 votes

After his ban he showed off to be a living saint with a glory around his head so he got unbanned just be4 the start of s5. And most of the ppl who plays with him says he really is a "good guy" guy.

Edit: He was really young when he did thoose mind him. He grew up.

Hasztalan21 votes

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ßluę1 votes

Alright then :/

Toa of Death4 votes

He got unbanned for proving that he was changed and no longer toxic.

Slappybiscuit4 votes

This again?

You want to single out incarnati0n for his behavior several years ago when he wasn't even on an lcs team. RIOT has said he has been reformed. But once toxic always toxic. right?

Let's see who else has been suspended or considered toxic...

TiP - XWX suspended for Elo boosting TL - IWillChoosestupidname banned for toxicity CLG - DubbleLift admits he has berated teammates in the past. ROC - nukeduck suspended for toxicity with mithy OG - Mithy suspended for toxicity with nukeduck GMB - FORG1VEN - has not been suspended since he was put on his current suspension SK - svenskeren suspended for racist remarks

and probably others I have left out, and likely many more to come, but Incarnati0n is the bad guy, because his mistakes occurred before he was in the LCS.

ßluę1 votes

I'm sure there were more but like I said in the post, I only looked at teams that I liked and c9 was one of them

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

He didn't only flame but also ddos'ed opponents in challenger games.

Zhugan2 votes

Literally no proof of that. None whatsoever. Which was a contributing factor to Riot lifting the ban. The proof they thought they had was a total crock of bullsh*t.

He was toxic, but he was also something like 14 at the time. Giving a literal child another chance after they have proven they are a lot less toxic makes a whole lot of sense.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

His ban was 2 and a half years ago...so he would be 16 and a half now? rofl. He himself admitted ddos'ing players, it was shown on stream, I happened to watch it lol.

Zhugan1 votes

You're right, no teenager would boast they did something that they didn't do. That doesn't sound like a thing. I also said "something like 14" because he was within a few years of that age.

When Riot lifted the ban they more or less said that they didn't have any proof of him ddos'ing anyone, and that his behavior had gone from atrocious to pretty much saintly.

Maybe read a bit more and recognize that people can change before you spew nonsense.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Lol I never said he didn't change his behaviour...I personally have no problem with him getting unbanned by Riot and I am happy he made it to Worlds cause he is very good player and it is always nice to see that people can change. But the fact remains he did ddos people on stream, the screenshots of that are everywhere.

Zhugan1 votes

If they are everywhere provide the proof that Riot said didn't exist. I'm patient. I'll wait.

Ale non è male2 votes

Incarnation didn't got any special treatment... when Riot reformed to way to handle suspensions/bans about competitive scene they gave a free out of jail card to all the permabanned guys. Among these guys there was also incarnatiOn, and they saw that he had reformed his behaviour according to the standards of a positive players and they allow him to play competitively (a thing he never did at LCS level previously to the ban) It has to be noted that not all the guys which was given this chance showed serious improvement with their behaviour, and those guys remained suspended (some of them are still suspended I believe)

ßluę1 votes

OH! YEAH I REMEMBER THAT! :D thanks for the info

Axests1 votes

my problem is not with riot for letting a reformed player get unbanned, it's the fact that the only reason they did it was because he was an lcs player, and they gives no %%%%s about the common reformed player

Slappybiscuit2 votes

Where do you get your information?

He was not an LCS player. His first and only time in the professional scene is this year with Cloud 9. He was a high elo player sure, but he was not affiliated with any professional team.

Axests1 votes

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Where do you get your information?

He was not an LCS player. His first and only time in the professional scene is this year with Cloud 9. He was a high elo player sure, but he was not affiliated with any professional team.

yes but he was unbanned SO THAT he could play in the lcs, your typical LoL player will have no way to prove they're reformed

Slappybiscuit2 votes

Your typical LoL player isn't famous and just has to make a new account and begin playing right away. Pros can and do this too, but cannot professionally while they are still under a suspension/ban. And yes the pros who get banned lose the account for good, and have to make a new one just like everybody else.

Linthe1 votes

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my problem is not with riot for letting a reformed player get unbanned, it's the fact that the only reason they did it was because he was an lcs player, and they gives no %%%%s about the common reformed player

No. I dont believe this is true. AFAIK Riot's position has always been that the account is perma banned, not the player (how could the DO that anyway)? Just create 5000 more gmail accounts and there you go.

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