This just shows you how much NA still sucks internationally, imho. C9 or TSM or both will go to Worlds again, but it doesn't really matter. They never perform well (especially C9). Sure TSM won the last IEM, but that was because of several 'flukes' and they didn't really prove anything. It would be so nice to see fresh blood at Worlds, but NA just doesn't have what it takes yet.
Based on this here is a poll.
C9 and TSM (even if just the brands) are so stale and they never do well at Worlds. We need fresh meat in the NA LCS BIGTIME. Lets hope for newer teams to do better.
They both outperformed all the EU teams last season at worlds, with TSM handing the eventual winners one of their few losses.
TSM just won IEM.
Well currently NA is looking better internationally than EU. TSM won IEM, even if it is because they didn't have to face GE, that's GE's fault for not stepping up against WE. It was a best of 3, so it's not like it was pure luck that WE won. Last year at worlds NA made it further when NA and EU looked about equivalent in skill. Even at allstars in 2014, NA did better in groups.
EU really needs to step up internationally right now. I'm personally glad UOL knocked SK out. I think both unicorns and fnatic could show up stronger internationally than SK. I'm really pumped for the MSI now.
Anyways, related to the post, I definitely want to see C9 at worlds, and TSM too if they keep playing how they are now. I hate that it's still the same two teams on top, but I want to see NA get to semis at worlds, and these are the best two teams to give NA that chance. Right now based on team strength I think TIP and TL are good candidates for third. However, as a fan, I'd like to see CLG finally pull through and get to another worlds.
Lmao Everytime beens swapping players non stop, changing names, even coaches and they still can't beat the top 2 teams. Instead of acknowledging that, you come to rant about how boring it is. Wow! Like how about you say, gee guys c9 has the same players for two years in a row and has been getting top 2 in lcs since, with no changes compared to everyone else. How about saying guys TSM only got a new jungles and wrecked everyone
Like seriously, just reading your post you can smell the rooting hate or dislike you have for these teams
I am pretty sure TSM is a constantly evolving team. They have not had the same roaster for a year yet. You have to be crazy to think that the TSM of a 2 years ago is the same one of today.
C9 is the oldest team right now when it comes to the same members. How dare they not switch it up and randomly find new talent for you. Man those pricks.
Also 3 teams go to worlds so who knows who else is going to go. C9 and TSM are the current power houses in NA but only cause they work at it. C9 is the all NA team they made the LCS together and have done the work to adapt. TSM takes the american philosophy and runs with it, they do not care where your from they want what they think is the best players and work to make a team from that.
I am not sure why your board with these teams. They have to work for their spots, its not like people are giving a free pass in the LCS.
Regardless, they goto finals. Because they bested all of whom that came their way in the NA spring split. Who destroyed who's nexus? I personally was pleasantly entertained with the semi-final games between TL/C9 and TSM/TIP. More so the TSM game, because bjerg is a strong mid laner and isn't scared to pick bursty champions. Which in turn make the game very interesting at almost all points. Besides, You shouldn't be so negative, show support for NA and who knows.. they could beat the best of other countries for the win. S5 could be NA's chance to win worlds.
yeah I am bored with C9vsTSM rivalry. for some games, sure it lighted the fire. But if it keep repeating itself, it's the same as baiting the boredom
why the other regions have rise and fall meanwhile NA "oh.. it's TSM vs C9 again"
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This just shows you how much NA still sucks internationally, imho. C9 or TSM or both will go to Worlds again, but it doesn't really matter. They never perform well (especially C9). Sure TSM won the last IEM, but that was because of several "flukes" and they didn't really prove anything. It would be so nice to see fresh blood at Worlds, but NA just doesn't have what it takes yet.
And what do you have to say about Fnatic being in all 5 EU LCS finals? Must mean that EU sucks as well, quite boring having the same team in the finals all the time, hmm?
If NA "sucks" internationally, then what do you have to say about other regions?
Since the beginning on Season 4, NA has shown itself to clearly be above SEA (if you want to talk about "flukes", right there it is.. SEA was somehow thought of as an actual region during Seasons 3 & 4 when the teams that went to Worlds from SEA were no better than the Wild Cards), and NA is above EU as well. Prior to the influx of Koreans into the Chinese scene, NA wasn't that far behind most of China either (i.e. In the group stage, TSM split with eventual runner-up SHRC).
IEM was not a "fluke". Just lucky things happened. Tigers lost. C9 was demolished. SK lost because they banned out Forgiven. Gambit was themselves. You can not take away how well TSM did at IEM. Even if they didn't win, they still played well every game. Most of it came with pick/ban.
You saying that TSM and C9 are in the finals because the rest of the teams suck internationally? What does that even mean? CLG choked sadly, TIP played well game one. C9 almost didn't make it. But because they knew what TL was going to run with jugger'maw, they could easily counter it. And after that game 3 lost, Piglet just went on tilt. Because TL honestly has Piglet on their team, he doesn't allow other players to shine. Unlike players like WildTurtle who just plays stupidly. But because he speaks english, he fits. Piglet not speaking english clear enough, hurts TL in communication. Piglet and WildTurtle are the same person. They both are solo q ADCs. More so Piglet. But still.
TSM! TSM! TSM!
Looks like somebodys team got knocked out
other teams need to get good. hating on x team for being good makes no sense.
