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7.3 sure took a toll on C9

Łulu··2 votes·1,130 views

Hopefully they can recover from this sudden loss streak, atleast even tho they are 8-2 like TSM is right now, they still get to keep their number 1 seed spot. Go team! summoner 31 Rooting for every team in the splits, it was quite the weak first month for everyone but slowly its getting more exciting.

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Geauxx3 votes

Tbh, i honestly think they got conceited, did you see how hard jensen kept trying to bm lmao haven't seen that in a while

anonymous1193 votes

I personally think it showed how much they were relying on impact to be a playmaker. In all of the games they lost, and the game he was subbed, there was a clear lack of pressure from the top lane. Impact was known as the guy who not only forced jungler pressure top but would even still gain advantages while in the 1vs2. This weekend he was straight up not looking great in the 1vs1 let alone forcing pressure top.

Moooose32 votes

Lol. You can't say a patch took a toll on a team just because they lost. Maybe they had an off week, or the teams they played were just good. There's no evidence it was the patch. I don't even follow lcs. Correlation doesn't equal causation lol.

Łulu1 votes

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Lol. You can't say a patch took a toll on a team just because they lost. Maybe they had an off week, or the teams they played were just good. There's no evidence it was the patch. I don't even follow lcs. Correlation doesn't equal causation lol.

i guess, its mostly due to the fact that week 1-4 they were doing super good and then week 5 rolled in with 7.3 being applied, something changed and they started playing pretty bad. maybe it just an off week.

plus the other reason it might be the patch is due to the changes done to the more powerful champs from 7.1 and 7.2 (Malz and Khazix mostly)

atomick1 votes

They weren't doing "super good" though. The two weeks prior to last week were slugfests that C9 had to struggle through to pull out wins. They started showing weaknesses in the areas of their new jungler and their lack of aggression as a team, and they have a difficult time dealing with teams that can give Impact and Jensen a run for their money that require more attention from Conctractz, as well as against overly aggressive teams in general. The fact that they lost this week was the product of those weaknesses catching up to them without significant improvement from their scrims.

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

Despite holding number 1 for 5 weeks, they never dominated the way C9 dominated back in S2. It was more of hard won battles

Spinning Axes1 votes

s3*

atomick2 votes

I'm not sure we're remembering the same season. I'm pretty sure TSM owned S3.

Spinning Axes1 votes

C9 wasn't in the LCS season 2, they were in the challenger series under the banner of Quantic Gaming.

They entered into the LCS Spring Split of season 3, which is when they achieved their record breaking winrates.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Better for C9 to lose early ish in the season than it is to go undefeated and have a loss in the playoffs and not know what it tastes like or feels and get potentially destroyed.
While they may be 8-2 they are still a very powerful team and the loses will only make them stronger, now rather they go 0-2 again or 1-1 in the upcoming weeks doesn't mean they aren't learning from their mistakes. Impact also had really bad performances honestly and when 1 of your cogs is doing bad or a bad series it takes it's toll on every player on that specific team.

atomick1 votes

Unfortunately though they've known about their issues prior to losing twice this week. The past couple of weeks before week 5's losses were real struggles for them to win. On games where Impact can't perform well or the other laners require more help from Contractz, they really start to fall short. They're also a very passive team in a world where aggressive teams always climb to the top, so they've been trying to adapt to a new playstyle as well. It's possible to spot weaknesses and still win. In fact, C9's were easy to spot long before their losses. The losses just mean that those weaknesses caught up to them before they could improve, even though they had weeks to work on it. Losing doesn't automatically mean that they'll be better in the post season, it just means that they either couldn't improve before it was too late, or they didn't notice anything to improve before actually losing a series. Both options are bad for them as a team. I'm a C9 fan, and I hope they can turn their shit around, but as it stands right now, they just flat out don't look strong in the light of TSM, Fly, P1, and even Echo Fox's improvements as teams.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Yeah, I was just pointing out that if they did indeed went 18-0 or so and lost a game or so in the playoffs it would have most likely tilted them is all. There are a number of things that I find C9 are either lacking or just not very good, some are just casual things while others are more severe.

  1. The meta support damage dealers.
  • It's much easier for a shotcaller for a team for C9 I would say it's Smoothie to be able to do massive damage get a few kills, kda, assists from the damage and still be able to shotcall effectively. As well as the distance the bot lane meta has with massive damage from the adc and support as well as the stuns/slows/roots etc from the supports, so it helps Sneaky's lane phase something that he has never been great at but has been improving since his first split back in 2013.
  1. Impact
  • It's no secret C9 relies on Impact 24/7, whenever he does bad they lose period.
  1. Contractz
  • Great start but his production has fallen a bit each week slowly by surly.

  • It will be interesting to see what C9 does against Echo Fox and FlyQuest this upcoming weekend, as besides TSM I do view EF, FQ and C9 as top tier teams that do have good shotcalling and are very smart but a few things here and there that are holding each of them back.

I do see C9 winning their series against both EF and FQ but they will be much tougher games than before.

Raiyza1 votes

That's the thing. They rely on Impact too much. If he plays poorly, which he did in the games vs Tsm, c9 won't win. Ray doesn't do shit for C9.

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