fnatic wtf are you doing T_T
I am not a pro, but I don't think ashe into tahm kench and kalista is the best choice.
The 2-0, the 2-0 is coming.
I am not a pro, but I don't think ashe into tahm kench and kalista is the best choice.
The 2-0, the 2-0 is coming.
Korea VS Korea finals inc....sigh
Questionnable picks from Fnatic tough. Ashe was a really poor choice here.
To be fair, KOO is historically amazing at pick and ban. And FNC have always have had this problem; they come into a game with a strategy planned out, and don't diverge from that strategy even if the picks at that point completely counter what they are going to do.
The really poor choice was to pick reksai first and leave tahm open...reksai isn't a great pick, and tahm is nearly freewin in proplay right now
And here comes the 2-0. 3-0 next.
0-3 :/ at least they made it to the semi-finals, FNC and Origen were new teams relatively and the fact that they kicked all their way to semis is impressive enough.. At least they can kick NA's ass that has been in the scene for years now
0-3 :/ at least they made it to the semi-finals, FNC and Origen were new teams relatively and the fact that they kicked all their way to semis is impressive enough.. At least they can kick NA's ass that has been in the scene for years now
NA was horrible this year. I expected fnatic to have done better this year but huni was an anchor dragging them down especially with his inconsistent riven.
stop covering your tracks, FNC had a completely new roster, they had to switch the ADC mid season with rekkles, The fact that they made it to semis should be celebrated
stop covering your tracks, FNC had a completely new roster, they had to switch the ADC mid season with rekkles, The fact that they made it to semis should be celebrated
They didn't lose because of mid or bot. It was that poor riven who did worse and worse each game dropping down to an 0/8
0/8 was just giving up. Whether it's esports, RL sports or life in general, that was a very immature showing, bordering on pathetic.
I like EU LCS and was rooting for Origen and Fnatic, but both teams fell down and then gave up. They couldn't handle the adversity and crumbled.
Nah, blaming Huni for losing to smeb is like blaming Bjerg for losing to Faker. He really shouldn't have been put on those carry champs, they should have let Febiven and Rekkles carry.
Nah, blaming Huni for losing to smeb is like blaming Bjerg for losing to Faker. He really shouldn't have been put on those carry champs, they should have let Febiven and Rekkles carry.
Na because huni didn "lose" he got epically demolished and essentially went on tilt raged because he couldnt get ahead. Huni is very capable of going even at worst and if you watch you see him making stupid plays over and over to try to feed his ego.... Like really wtf saves hecarim ult to trample over zac blobs after he dies? Was the biggest selfish ego play I ever seen the fear doesnt even do anything to the blobs, he could have ulted onto the the other 2 and the "team" would easily finished the blobs....but he sat waited for those blobs to come together then ulted 100% onto just the blobs to get the kill. Net result? They get crushed in the ensuing fight, in part for waiting to finish the engage thx to huni and in part him wasting his ult just to kill blobs....
See it agian next game, he activates his ult too early and then chases giving up first blood, over and over, poor target selection by huni, greedy plays that dont work at pro level, because he was feeding into his ego, instead of playing as a team player and see where the cards fall.
Honestly lets be honest I think reignover bought into his own ego hype train as well, and made alot of greedy plays that cost his team and took some kills that really could have went elsewhere. Good teams playing well don't fight for personal scores or waste precious CD's to take kills that are free .
Ehh at that point they were just tilting. i stand by my point that Huni should have been put on carry champs; i think would be fine on a vlad, malphite, or gnar. Even rumble would do well for him, but they really should have known better to put him on to riven, he was obviously going to be outclassed. In game 1, he had some misplays but they didn't matter as much because he was playing Hec, which is a little bit less of a carry. Imo Huni is still a top 20 player, but imo the difference between top 5 and top 20 can be massive. They should have recognized he would not be able to carry this game, and drafted accordingly. I think there was one game where they could have taken Lulu... I think Huni on Lulu then Rekkles on a hyper carry would have been a great composition for that matchup. So yea, Huni messed up, but that was expected and the draft really should have tried to cover that weakness
Well to be honest having seen how these matches played out we can now say that EU just got lucky in the quarter finals.
OG didn't do any better against SKT than AHQ did and they had two games against Easyhoon. I'm not saying Easyhoon is bad but SKT with faker > SKT with Easyhoon.
FNC actually did worse against the KOO tigers than KT did.
So in reality EU's "top 4" finish was just pure luck of not having to play the Korean teams immediately. Sort of similar to how Royal Club made it to the finals two straight years without being the actual second best team in the tournament. Had AHQ and KT gotten the same teams OG and FNC did in the quaters they would have both likely advanced.
But thats worlds right, How far can you go without playing a Korean team.
Easyhoon is however the best azir in the world even better than faker !
Fnatic and Origen both made really asinine mistakes early in their games that ended up throwing them to their opponents.
So many times one of them would be trying to "flank" or something and would just end up getting collapsed on and killed, and in some cases, for some reason, the rest of the team would then just dive straight into unfavorable fight to try to...I don't even know...salvage something from it?
Its really impressive how Korean teams can take small mistakes and capitalize on them to win games though.
Yeah, the NA teams are like that too. Its the kind of frustrated response you can empathize with - I mean, we've all felt it, thinking 'why did you do that idiot' and jumping in to try to 'fix' someone elses mistake... except we're not pro players with direct communication. There should never be the question of why someone did something!
I think the key with the Korean teams is they can think ahead of positional mistakes - particularly their own. They consistently make better decisions when one of their own gets caught out, either collapsing and taking advantage of cooldowns or simply letting it go and not losing more. It means every risk is calculated and they spend less time figuring out their next move; they already know it.
I get the feeling that Western teams are just more aggressive and bloodthirsty because they want to get a lead to try and give themselves an advantage, whereas the Eastern teams are perfectly content playing relatively safe and controlled until the late game.
The Western teams will look to force fights to try for kills (early tower dives especially) and the Eastern teams will typically just sit back and wait for their opponent to try to force something unfavorably, and turn the fight in their own favor.
Western teams need to just calm down and relax with the aggression.
FNC's decisions today looked like a noob team.
Lol in which game? KOO has always been the C9 of LCK; questionable individual players, get behind in lane phase often, but are absolute god like comeback potential.
Koo is probably the funnest team to watch in LCK as well. They aren't afraid to go at it.
Yea i get that the EU fans here are salty, but HEY C9 FANS WATCH KOO TIGERS. Dat late game shotcalling is impeccable. well usually, sometimes they get ahead and don't know what to do with a lead, but they have made some of the craziest comebacks possible. Im not a KOO fan, im cheering for SKT, but Im glad its KOO in the finals and not KT.
Here are my absolutely biased predictions Both Marin and Smeb get solo kills at one point. Faker carries a game on leblanc Pray ends a game with 6 deaths or more Faker ends a game without dying Gorilla, Faker, Marin and Hojin all pick champs they haven't played before at this tournament.
Haha, I'll remember this one.
Do i get Championship riven when im right?
Ok so how did i do? Looks like i was wrong about Hojin. But Gorilla played 4 different champions, one of them had to be original.. right?
No leblanc, but multiple Ryze solokills. Kassadin looks like leblanc right?? Faker ended 2 games with no deaths, pray ended a game with 6 deaths. I cant remember if Marin or smeb got solokills tho
TBH I wanted FNC to win and looking at their skill match ups I didn't think it was going to be a clean sweep. Hopefully I'm wrong. Reignover is turning into gameover....
Top: Smeb is a better laner but Huni isn't a pushover. I guess just being a bit better can get you snowballed like crazy. Advantage Koo
Mid: Febiven is a much better laner than most mids in the world. But Kuro shows up for team fights. Advantage FNC because Feb isn't far behind.
Bot: Pray is a great AD carry. His positioning is top notch on top of that Pray can and will carry his games playing utility carries. Rekkles is a great utility Carry. More of a support so Huni and Feb can do damage. Advantage Koo
Jng:Reignover... He's prone to being out of place late game. Koo Tigers live for the late game team fight. They are amoungst the best in the world. Hojin/Lee He plays to the team, a lot like Benghi, a team fighter plays safe with barely any resources. Advantage Koo.
I love Skt but I DO NOT want to watch an all Korean final. I really enjoyed the FNC SKT game at MSI. I want to see a rematch at worlds.
After that game 2, Fanatic really looked demoralized as they left the stage to prepare for game 3. I'm not surprised at the result of game 3 because I think mind set was a big factor. You could tell KOO was feeling very comfortable and FNC was more desperate than collected.
Yeah, they looked confused. The teams that have adapted faster have won all the games. Fnatic had adapted. AD Ken looked good. Then the Korean teams adapted and the EU teams didn't have another plan.
3-0 it was like watching the world football/soccer match germany VS brasil again. Just...just so painful to watch...
hope skt can teach koo a lesson...just a bit of revenge.
GO FTW SKT !
their gameplay is so loose too
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God no. I disagree >.<
Me too. Febiven needs to be on a carry not a pupu/oriono. That works with SKT bc literally everyone on SKT can carry, but FNC can't put one of their main carries on a support mid... He should've locked the TF I love that pick. He can tp or ult all over the map so he can be relevant.
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That works with SKT bc literally everyone on SKT can carry, but FNC can't put one of their main carries on a support mid
This is so true it hurts. MaRin gets fed, he carries Faker gets fed, he carries Bang gets fed, he carries
Also, props to KkOma
game 3 was painful to watch
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I was very disappointed with Fnatic this time around. Very disappoint, much sad, wow.
that's called: huni is tilting
I want KOO to win, because it'd be weird to have 10 SKT skins.
I'm not excited about this at finals at all... I think SKT1 won't let this be a fun match, but some kind of sweep. I don't like sweeps that aren't close. It's boring to watch someone just crush a team completely.
I think Fnatic was in panic mode, which I don't understand. You've won once... Why is it so much pressure now? It doesn't make sense to me. Just deep breath and win. The games looked so... brainless though. Reignover over extending. Them getting ahead and Koo taking them down. Them not running double tp even though it was one of the things that made them amazing. Picking Orianna even though you've lost every game with her...
That whole match looked really... wrong as a whole.
Huni, is just playing like shit. Better pick riven again....0/7 riven right now. His team would have been better if he just dced at 0/3.. .
I guess it was quite obvious that Huni can't take pressure at all...
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I guess it was quite obvious that Huni can't take pressure at all...
Huni smiles at the enemy team as he hugs while his team is depressed. ...
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Huni smiles at the enemy team as he hugs while his team is depressed. ...
you are god damn stupid. Everyone griefs differently. PLease get out more. Your lack of common knowledge and common sense is scary.
you are god damn stupid. Everyone griefs differently. PLease get out more. Youre lack of common knowledge and common sense is scary.
Calm the fuck down. Huni played horrible and had a smile on his face. He needs to go.
It's called being courteous to your opponent. Sportsmanship, yeah? After KOO left FNC's side, Hunk looked depressed.
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It's called being courteous to your opponent. Sportsmanship, yeah? After KOO left FNC's side, Hunk looked depressed.
He covered his face so ppl couldn't see his continuous smile of an 0/8 riven because "he got to worlds" was enough mentality
xD Perhaps
Also lol "Hunk" best typo NA
It's not just Huni tho, it's just they all didn't seem to give a crap at all during the game... Reignover pushing without vision, letting Kalista come through multiple times, not adapting with tp and exhaust... It all just seemed bad. Not just one players fault, they are a team that makes joint decisions.
It's not just Huni tho, it's just they all didn't seem to give a crap at all during the game... Reignover pushing without vision, letting Kalista come through multiple times, not adapting with tp and exhaust... It all just seemed bad. Not just one players fault, they are a team that makes joint decisions.
That is cause huni ego took over the team today. Hard to get into the game when the plan is "ok scrubs try not to suck to hard while we pour everything into huni who then plays like a glory hound....these guys understand the game and they can see people doing stupid selfish shit like sitting on your ult as hecarim to kill zac blobs to get a kill when 2 enemy players are right there and should have been initiated on by hecarim. Sucks the life out of people.
I mean yellowstar is a great play maker shot caller, rekkles is a capable ADC, and febiven has preoven over and over he is a world class mid....but yet you marginalize all your teammates...well they lose interst fast specially when you are sucking the big D in the process of your own hunt for personal glory.
Either way, someone should have checked him then. If he was in charge of the team today, he shouldn't have been able to be a dictator. There should always be someone to check him if they're losing two games and don't change. What were they talking about in the back room? About Huni's plan for Worlds' domination? I know I sound super freaking American, but checks and balances. If he's saying, 'let's go scrubs, I gotta carry the entire world vs South Korea', there has to be someone on that team thinking, 'wtf.. we've lost twice, maybe we should hand over the leadership role and stop focusing on glorifying top...' if no one said that... It's still not only Huni. I know Huni made bad mistakes and that whole decision making was crap... But it's never really just one person, no one said 'stfu Huni let's play like we used to' then he AND their passiveness to his wanting to be carry huni, brought them down. If you don't want to count passivity as a factor in this loss, then sure. Huni is to blame. lol top lane is always to blame because they can't show up with their picks XD
Hint: I'm not a Huni fan, I'm just a fnatic fan. I hate that they put the D of possible win into one person because it makes no sense whatsoever. Not really how teams work... Teams need to communicate and when one player is getting out of control, check him and put him back where he belongs, aka not where he was since it failed the FIRST time. If they'd changed and centered it around other lanes, focusing on changes, maybe they couldn't have let it go 3-0.... But meh. People make mistakes, theirs just happened to cost them a ticket to the worlds finale, which i didn't watch because I knew the result... It was going to be a slaughter, with SKT1 coming out on top, I'm still kinda happy that KT managed to get one tho. Not gonna lie, slaughters are boring af. Like watching a movie and knowing exactly what happens at the end and how it happens.