Just want to put that out there. this year we both only got two teams out of groups. and while yes H2K made it to semis, they won against ANX, who definitely was considered an easier opponent than SSG. and in the end both C9 and H2k lost 3-0 to them. not making this to say "hehe Eu so trash" but I am saying "hey, you cant talk shit to NA and we cant talk shit to you. mutual agreement?"
Could not care3 votesDear God, at least one NA summoner who has some sense. The facts are simple: KR >> everyone else, and bickering for scraps will not change the fact that there's only one trophy and neither of us got it.
Genocide Victim1 votes[{quoted}](name=Could not care,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=9EwYiXgl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-23T01:28:11.559+0000)
Dear God, at least one NA summoner who has some sense. The facts are simple: KR >> everyone else, and bickering for scraps will not change the fact that there's only one trophy and neither of us got it.
Yep, both NA and EU are trash. Stop arguing who is less trash and start getting good.
RisenDarkKnight3 votesNA > EU, TSM 2-0 Splyce and CLG 2 -0 vs G2 (or 4-0 if you count MSI), NA won all the head to head games and had a better record in the group stage. We both failed miserably vs our korean overlords, but NA did do better than EU this worlds IMO. The only EU team that made it out of groups did not have to face any NA teams.
dakm1024 votesthis is true but I feel like it doesn't really matter ya know? while this is true and I'm not gonna be like "umm actually this this and this" I will say that in the end we both lost to the Korean overlords so we shouldn't be bickering like "lel EU in 2016" or "NA only made it to quarters lol"
RisenDarkKnight1 votesI mean I don't get what the point of saying two regions are equal when one won 6 head to head games and the other lost all 6. That's silly. Of course Korea is better, but that's been true every year and didn't stop any EU fans from saying EU > NA last year.
Maszii1 votesCus EU > NA last year, and buddy i got one for ya: EU > NA this year aswell :). Keep trying though, maybe your beloved TSM/C9 will show up at worlds next year.
Maszii1 votesNope EU > NA. Semi final > Quarter final.. Ohh but yeah you faced ANX. Well thats because your NA team didnt win vs them, and our EU team beat them so they had to play a tiebreaker vs ROX which got them second seed to play vs H2K. So EU planned this all aka EU > NA cus NA could have never came up with a masterplan this gud.
If you wanna do this math your on i got one for you. EU vs IWC 3-1, NA vs IWC 0-2. CLG just should have beaten ANX and then we would have seen CLG go down vs H2K. But its oke keep thinking your better while even when EU has send its worst teams in years we still got further than you guys :).
FableBlaze1 votesOn the other hand H2K >> ANX > CLG And H2K was much better against SSG than C9 was (not to mention that if ANX was "just a weak wild-card team", then how the hell did CLG not get out of groups?)
The point is that:
This is a pointless argument and depends on how you like to view things.
Personally I have never cared for EU vs NA thing. I am interested in overall strength rankings. Therefore i have always viewed how far a region gets in a tournament. By that metric EU did better this worlds than NA. On last MSI it was the other way around.
Now if someone cares more about the NA vs EU stuff, then yes, you look at head to head games (not at the tournament as a whole).
IceCap Addiction3 votesIt's easier just to say Korea > Everyone.
dakm1022 votesthanks for reassuring me it was a good idea to post this. I was scared eu fans would hate me ;-; so thank you
Could not care2 votesthanks for reassuring me it was a good idea to post this. I was scared eu fans would hate me ;-; so thank you
There are brainless people everywhere, twitch chat is even full of them. As for me, while I don't mind seeing some competition, flaming another when you're a loser as well just doesn't feel fine to me. NA and EU, especially the teams, should really cooperate more - it seems that otherwise we won't ever topple the overlords.
archerno11 votesPeople are forgetting one thing. Teams like TSM and C9 have participated in every or almost every WORLDS. They are veterans to international scene. Europe had Splyce and G2 who are first time on worlds. H2K participated in last years worlds and this is their second WORLDS and they ended up in top 4. TSM with all their experience, 2 years in a row didnt manage to leave group stage. in S4 they didnt go further than Quarterfinals. And in s3 they were 12th place. C9 never went past quarterfinals. So yes. NA managed to beat EU firsttimers this worlds. But what have NA ever achieved on WORLDS?
B00B001 votesVeterans who however have never made it too far.
Even in europes arguably weakest season to date we got to semis had two teams in semis in 2015, 2014 was the only time we didn't get out of groups.
One time C9 made it out of groupsnin default so....
I'm not saying anyone's better than the other but I'm just pointing this it i would love to of seen a US team in the finals above an EU as it was on your home turf
Stars Shaper1 votesI find it tiring that happens for the same reasons again: NA and EU always try to outpick the enemies instead of building a team or an anti-team.
TheSequelsRBad1 votesI hate NA vs EU. IT DOESN'T MATTER. Korea is the enemy, not each other.
I support NA=EU.
Kal Vas Flam1 votesHonestly every region not named "Korea" looked pretty much even this year. That's a good sign really as it means a few things:
Combine that with H2K making it far into the tourney and NA having some really good games (despite not being able to close a couple key games out when they needed to) has made this year's Worlds a joy to watch. I don't think it's going to be 4-5 years before other regions can compete with KR like some people say, it's gap is closing pretty fast when you actually look at the metrics and analyze the games.
Ricketts1 votesLeague of Legends Worlds Championship is kinda like Alien vs Predator. No matter who wins, The West loses.
FableBlaze1 votesI like this idea
Stillname1 votesI would say the top team from each region didn't do as well as they were expected. The others from those regions did alright considering.
Rox was expected to win but didn't. TSM, G2, and FW were expected to get to quarters at least but none did. Edg was expecting at least semis but they struggled in groups getting them matched up against a tough quarters opponent and they got knocked out.
Maybe if the top teams from the non-Korean regions played as well on the international stage as they do in their own league Korea would have a little more competition but none of them show up for some reason.
The only regions number 1 seed that surpassed expectations was the wild card.
Other then that it was just KR > all.