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2015 Worlds was NOT boring in ANY way.

El Don Juan··5 votes·1,250 views

There are a few people complaining that these worlds were boring. I don't feel like that is true. Sure the heavy favorite (though you could argue at the beginning EDG was a co-favorite) won, this is the type of thing that happens in sport, especially with a best of format. In fact, that is precisely the reason for a group stage and best of format afterwards, to weed out the team that get a string of luck or good/bad games (C9, Fanatic).

What this world showed was that the regions are not too far apart. NA, though they flamed out in the groups, was able to get some big wins. Eu showed they are even stronger than originally thought, the wildcards are beginning to catch up to the rest of the world, and China needs to stop importing so heavily because communication is key now that mechanical skills are evening out. Yes Korea dominated the playoffs, but it is nothing different from the Football World Cup, or any U.S. playoffs. You always see a European team winning the world cup (unless South America shows up that year), you have the same NBA teams rotating dynasties, etc. This doesn't make the games less exciting.

Some people cite the 3-0s and 3-1s, what they fail to mention is that most of the games were extremely close. There were some stomps sprinkled in, but that happens in any competitive format where teams fail to show up for that match (Brazil-Germany anyone?).

The rise of new stars during this worlds campaign was fantastic. Sneaky has shown he is a world class adc, as has Niels. Marin was owning the summer split in the LCK, but he truly emerged at worlds to take home the MVP. Smeb has done a 180 in terms of perception, outdueling the Korean LCK mvp ssumday. These guys are the future of league, along with some others. We're going to hear even more about them. Oh yeah, and Faker isn't gone, he was just resting.

Back to SKT and people hating the fact they ran through the tournament, they are not different from the Golden State Warriors, Barcelona, or the New England Patriots. They are dominant in a multi faceted way. They understand the current game strategy and can execute it, but also they have transcendent individual stars from Marin, Faker, to even their coaching staff. SKT actually has a story. It was touched upon briefly in the finals. They came from nothing to win the S3 world championships mostly because they were carried by Faker. However as S4 came along League of Legends evolved from a game that one person can just hard carry, it had become more strategic and more roles had a say in the outcome of the match. SKT still competed but the failed to qualify for worlds. That was an extreme disappointment. After S4, when most of the top Korean players left Korea, Faker stayed even though he was offered more money. He stayed because of loyalty and also he correctly felt that Korea was still the best region in the world. His loyalty was rewarded when his team came through the fire and formed a cohesive battle tested unit that no one in the world could seriously threaten. Besides Fanatic we have never seen such high level continuity in a team in this sport before (and SKT is even at another level).

Marin especially is a great storyline for this tournament. He was essentially getting carried by the rest of SKT before the summer split. Go and watch spring LCK matches or MSI and you'll see the difference in the way the casters talk about him. Faker was unable to carry them past EDG in the finals and the team learned from that. They are the perfect example of what you want in champions. They are always at the forefront of the meta, adapting and innovating, they out maneuver their opponents through sheer chemistry and strategy.

I do admit the analysts were not at top form. I found them entertaining but the way they rode SKT's jock the entire tournament was absurd. They should have come up with strategies with substance for the other team to beat SKT instead of "don't make any mistakes because they will punish them." They could've spoken more on how CJ beat them with a double teleport comp. Or EDG baited them in picks and bans to pick a carry they knew they could shut down. All the wrong picks during the first week was amusing.

TLDR: This worlds wasn't boring, the strategy and level of play shown by the teams is at an all time high. The world is catching up to Korea (maybe just not SKT). Most years in any sport there will be a dominant team, enjoy them because they will be a part of the sports history years from now.

10 Comments

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

Group stages was awesome. After that it felt flat

Emperor Cynric1 votes

Wasn't boring for me. Cause I didn't watch what's killing this game and company.

Kritya1 votes

100% disagree. Groups were ok because it really was an international competition. After that the knockouts were just boring. I didn't even watch anything after OG and SKT cause why bother... Maybe they should put in some international divisional type set up. like Korea is in one bracket, Europe in another, NA in another, and China in the 4th. the wild card teams can fill in the 4th spots in each bracket. At least that way, every region has a point to keep cheering throughout the tourny. We get that Korea is the best. But at least give the other regions some hope, even if it's a lie lol. let us enjoy it. It is for our entertainment after all, and it doesn't take away from the players' competition.

just an idea.

El Don Juan1 votes

I don't think that would be the way to do it. After groups it was still an international competition, only NA failed to qualify for the playoffs. The point of the tournament is for the best teams to square off. It wouldn't make sense to create groups the way you propose because that's not world's that just a continuation of the LCS/LCK split.

The gap in the world wasn't big at all. The European teams and Korean were just better on the days they played.

I think it would have been reasonable to think AHQ, Fanatic, Origen, KT, KOO, Flashwolves, EDG could have all made the finals with a more fortuitous draw and playing at the top of their abilities when it mattered.

In any competition to have that number of teams able to advance to the finals to play the juggernaut is incredible. Usually it's just 2-3 teams realistically fighting for the crown.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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I don't think that would be the way to do it. After groups it was still an international competition, only NA failed to qualify for the playoffs. The point of the tournament is for the best teams to square off. It wouldn't make sense to create groups the way you propose because that's not world's that just a continuation of the LCS/LCK split.

The gap in the world wasn't big at all. The European teams and Korean were just better on the days they played.

I think it would have been reasonable to think AHQ, Fanatic, Origen, KT, KOO, Flashwolves, EDG could have all made the finals with a more fortuitous draw and playing at the top of their abilities when it mattered.

In any competition to have that number of teams able to advance to the finals to play the juggernaut is incredible. Usually it's just 2-3 teams realistically fighting for the crown.

I think you are trying to correlate fun worlds with what team got passed groups. It's not that.

See, last year, groups was not as this years group. This years group we got to see funny and cool Pentas. We got to see a lot of upsets, major upsets, and a lot of different types of strategies that each region seemed to have.

Once the group stages ended, upsets were gone, strategies became flat lined, and everything was more predictable. You knew the bans, you knew who would win, you knew the picks. Nothing fun

Last year, the picks and ban were a bit better but upsets were there. Need I remind you, SSB was favored to win? They had beaten ssw in two different match ups in beat of 5s before. They were considered the ssw kryptonite. Last years world was by far better after groups

Kritya1 votes

also, when i say international competition, i don't mean teams from different regions weren't playing, i mean teams from different regions stood no chance lol. The final scores of both series speak for themselves. The reason why professional sports are so popular is because of how close the skill levels are of all the teams and players (most of the time). It's not really the case with League. And I would very much like to see it that way.

However i believe it's a culture thing. Western players need to step their game up in terms of dedication. Their current regimen isn't keeping up.

dEAdbUs1 votes

Have you Seen previous worlds? If you did, which season worlds was better?

El Don Juan1 votes

I saw season 4, (started playing at the beginning of season 4) I have also watched many games from LPL, LCK and NA/EU LCS. This worlds was much better than S4 because it was SSW or SSB and that was it. The gap between the regions has shrunk.

SKT was a juggernaut (excuse the pun) but really we're watching one of the most dominant and greatest league teams in history. In S6 and onwards people will speak wistfully of this year's team and what they did.

This happens in sports and I can understand if you dislike a team that beat your team. I disliked SSW and SSB because they beat out SKT to get to S4 worlds. But to say the tournament sucked is short sighted, or you just haven't developed the taste to enjoy a strategic league game that isn't bloodthirsty and involves many throws (kinda like how people thought Barcelona or the Spurs were/are boring to watch)

dEAdbUs1 votes

I started to play at S2, and this Worlds were first for me.

Meta was very different - Anivia and Karthus were dominating mid. Shen and Jax were dominating top.

In S3 Shen was nerfed so hard so even now he's not so popular toplaner on proscene. Same time Renekton became really strong and started to picked less and less, because Renek is his counter.

I don't think that this Worlds were boring because my team lost. My team lost in previous season - it was Royals. This Worlds were boring because every match were predictable. I guessed everything except China's fail. As China fan I didn't expect that they will lose do hard, especially after win on MSI. However SKT win was obvious, as Samsung win was obvious in previous season.

But even this wasn't real problem. In S4 there was insane games in semis Royals vs OMG - there was surprising pick from legendary InSek: Fiddle and Panth. Royals were losing but InSek shocked enemies with his picks.

Same happened in S3 when new team SKT (they were playing together just few months) beaten Korean veterans Najin Black Sword with 3-2 score- I was mad! NBS adc was maining Twitch - as me, and newbies beat em! S3 showed us what China can do - long time before Worlds I found that one chinese support picks apc on botlane, and his Annie is incredible. After that I became huge fan of this support - Tabe. And he was dominating on Worlds. His team - Royal Club has 90% winrate with Annie support.

Why I'm telling you that? Look this Worlds - 3-0 playoffs on every stage. Ali, Lulu, RekSai in every game game in Finals. But I was truly enjoying Faker's Ryze. Usually one side games are boring. But damn, Ryze is overnerfed - he can be useful only as Kass counter (thx to his root), but Faker was owning. This was shining of pure mechanics. SKT win were obvious, and most people bet on it. So their win wasn't anything special. That's why Riots need to change something in their game. You can say that other regions just suck, but this happened in many sports. In Formula 1 Ferrari was was winning for many years, so Formula changed some rules about engine mechanics, and this let other teams to grew up and beat Ferrari. Nothing is impossible.

I'm happy anyway if you enjoyed this Worlds.

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

Most of the games were close. There were fewer stomps this year than previous years. So I agree, it was fun simply because the games were close for the first 80% or so.

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