If I report someone I do NOT want to be put in another game with them.... EVER.

El Don Juan·Oct 30, 2015·201 votes·21,856 views

The title says it all. I had the most toxic support, in a ranked game, that held the team hostage by saying if we didn't give him farm he was going to feed. When the adc farmed a big minion wave he decided to stroll down midlane and let the other team kill him. I reported him along with several other members in the game. The very next game he is on my team again. He proceeded to verbally abuse the whole team and after he died he said he was going to afk or feed. He proceeded to sell all of his items for 5 tears.

I don't care if I have to wait 15 mins in queue because all the people I have reported are trying to join games. DO NOT put someone in a game with some one they reported. They reported the person for a reason, part of that is they don't ever want to see their face again.

103 Comments

RiotWookieeCookieOct 30, 201564 votes

Hey El Don Juan,

We can all relate to the frustration that comes with being matched twice in a row with a rager. While it may be possible to restrict players from playing with another they have reported, we're wary to do this because of how it could affect matchmaking. In addition, we know that sometimes players may have a brief instance of toxicity where they deserve to be reported, but who quickly resume normal play style without incident; in these situations it doesn't always make sense to permanently black list them.

Instead, the PB team here has been looking at ways to improve the speed at which our disciplinary systems respond to player reports. Ideally, the current system will act very quickly after a report has been sent. For example, in your case I went ahead and did some digging and noticed that the player has been exited from the game for their transgressions.

With that said, the system is still relatively new, and there is a lot of tuning going on to increase the systems effectiveness. Although it can be disheartning at times, you're doing the right thing by leaving a report on that player (as you did in this instance). All reports are collected and sent to our system to better calibrate it for the future.

SincarnationOct 30, 201546 votes

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Hey El Don Juan,

We can all relate to the frustration that comes with being matched twice in a row with a rager. While it may be possible to restrict players from playing with another they have reported, we're wary to do this because of how it could affect matchmaking. In addition, we know that sometimes players may have a brief instance of toxicity where they deserve to be reported, but who quickly resume normal play style without incident; in these situations it doesn't always make sense to permanently black list them.

Instead, the PB team here has been looking at ways to improve the speed at which our disciplinary systems respond to player reports. Ideally, the current system will act within 15 to 30 minutes after a report has been sent. For example, in your case I went ahead and did some digging and noticed that the player has been exited from the game for their transgressions.

With that said, the system is still relatively new, and there is a lot of tuning going on to increase the systems effectiveness. Although it can be disheartning at times, you're doing the right thing by leaving a report on that player (as you did in this instance). All reports are collected and sent to our system to better calibrate it for the future.

Surely you can implement something that puts them on a time clock, like you won't get matched with that player for like an hour. Something to ensure you don't get the same asshat the very next game, I'd imagine with a one game buffer people would feel better than getting that same toxic asshat in the next game when you are trying to move on from the previous disaster.

League of PotatoOct 31, 201529 votes

The most effective way to avoid running into the same player is leave queue for 5 mins, go to the bathroom, grab a drink, whatever, and then rejoin. If you have a game with a rager take a breather and go back into it. It doesn't help going into games mad just because other people are putting you on tilt.

I played 3 ranked games a few hours ago...

First game we were winning hard and our Ashe was raging at our whole team, started feeding and we ended up losing.

Second game; I got the same guy from the last game who was playing Talon, came in said he was jungling and wouldn't gank any lanes because it wouldn't matter how far we were ahead, we would still lose (his words, not mine)..We still won, but the entire game he was sitting there encouraging the other team, pretty much trying to help them win, and bitching at anyone that would die on our team.

Third game; He was on the other team, raging in /All chat all game.

I decided that was enough of ranked after having to deal with him 3 games in a row.

GankLordOct 31, 20153 votes

Also I've adopted the policy of only doing one ranked game per day so far I haven't had any toxic people on my team though i know that's just luck on my part. I know ranked works me up to much and I don't like having that much pressure on myself.

CosnirakOct 31, 20156 votes

While this works it shouldn't be on the person who was subject to someone else's bad behavior to fix things. Especially when the solution from Riot's end is so simple. They should put a time limit where after reporting anyone not on your friends list you can't be matched with them.

And to be clear it should be the person doing the reporting who has to wait longer in order to dodge that person (prevents abuse) but with an option to turn that feature off and let it pair you with people you recently reported.

League of PotatoNov 4, 20152 votes

I agree, except it's not that simple. In theory? Yes. In reality? No. People would find ways to abuse that "simple" system.

CosnirakNov 4, 20151 votes

How? I'm pretty sure I put in the only two anti abuse systems you would need. If you can think of other problems please share them.

DeynaTaggerungOct 31, 20155 votes

As League of Potato menitoned leaving queue briefly will allow you to avoid matching up with someone from your last game. Although it doesn't even have to be that overt. Generally even a 30 second delay before re-queueing is enough to get a completely new set of players. In fact I always do this just because it feels nice to start fresh, even if there were good players in the last game.

El Don JuanOct 31, 20158 votes

Thanks for the reply, the little message saying the guy had been punished definitely helped. As some people have said in this comment section, would a time delay be possible? May a few hours? A day? If I encountered someone on a different day who was toxic I probably wouldn't even remember unless they relapse into the same toxic patterns.

iHeim Oct 31, 20157 votes

so what is the purose of having a BLOCK option, when in fact, it doesnt work, what exactly is the block option supposed to do, and why if someone AFK from ARAM, they are unreportable at the post game screen, the thumbs down option isnt available for only that player

League of PotatoOct 31, 20152 votes

I'm pretty sure the block option is just so you don't get friend requests and messages on the client from certain players, but I understand what you're saying.

Silents429Oct 31, 20151 votes

To block messages and friend requests, like how any block option works.

iHeim Nov 1, 20152 votes

im not worried about a FEEDER sending me friend requests or messages, but i AM worried about being paired up with him again so he can toxically feed again, so i figured BLOCKING someone would prevent me being put on the same team, or same game with him, but thanks for ur smart@$$ response

Silents429Nov 1, 20151 votes

And this can be abused in ranked, players end up blocking everyone they deem bad and match making starts suffering heavily.

No need to be a dickhead over it, you asked and I answered the question.

iHeim Nov 1, 20152 votes

u was the dickhead first, u need to word ur sentences better to not come off like a jerk, where i come from a block means u wont get queued with the jerk again as well as never having to see him send friend requests or messages

Silents429Nov 1, 20151 votes

Name 1 other matchmaking game where blocking someone does that.

iHeim Nov 1, 20151 votes

well i used to think it was this game, until i went to block someone for being really bad and they was already blocked, but i dont play online pc games other than this, i come from xbox, so XBOX LIVE, (halo)

Silents429Nov 1, 20152 votes

Okay yet you phrased it as if League is the only game to do blocking wrong, as will as calling me a smartass for stating the same thing.

iHeim Nov 5, 20151 votes

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Silents429Nov 5, 20151 votes

That's nice dear.

deadlyotaku116Nov 2, 20152 votes

matchmaking suffers? how? if anything it would just lengthen the queue time of the possibly toxic reporter it has no effect on anyone exept for bronze will now be temporary for those that do not belong there. after you block most of the toxic people you will only have games where its based only by skill rather than luck as it currently is.

*** edit: also it would put those that repeat this offence without being seen by riots system will be queued with only thier own kind or have extremely long queues. this addition will only be a good thing

Silents429Nov 2, 20151 votes

You need to have room for abuse, imagine everyone having the ability to completely block people entirely, once that gets around the queue times don't just get longer they flat out start pulling people from higher elos into your game because everyone kept getting rid of people.

It isn't about skill, it's get rid of anyone you deem bad.

deadlyotaku116Nov 3, 20151 votes

could they have a mmr hard cap of who gets matched with you?

Silents429Nov 3, 20151 votes

Nope that opens the possibility of jut not finding anyone at all.

deadlyotaku116Nov 3, 20151 votes

and whos fault would that be? its the troll who got reported or blocked by everyone or the less often person who just blames everyone

Silents429Nov 4, 20151 votes

You say less often but it would be common place, everyone in the game has a moment of weakness where they snap or just don't like one of there team mates, and the temptation to just remove them from any possible future games is WAAAY to tempting to refuse.

This is something that couldn't work out if it was permanent.

deadlyotaku116Nov 11, 20151 votes

since its the common mindset for bronze and silver i guess it could be common but it would still work in the positive whether they do that or not

ProvengreilNov 3, 20151 votes

believe or not, it used to work this way and you could literally screw the matchmaking system with it. Season 1 you could report every player in every game, and you'd end up matched againt higher MMR players pretty quickly, making your MMR rise disproportionate to your skill as you would only need to win about 40% of your games to rise, maybe less. A real life friend found this out, actually got gold using it.

deadlyotaku116Nov 3, 20151 votes

mmr hard cap would solve this

OldDirtayOct 31, 20152 votes

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Hey El Don Juan,

We can all relate to the frustration that comes with being matched twice in a row with a rager. While it may be possible to restrict players from playing with another they have reported, we're wary to do this because of how it could affect matchmaking. In addition, we know that sometimes players may have a brief instance of toxicity where they deserve to be reported, but who quickly resume normal play style without incident; in these situations it doesn't always make sense to permanently black list them.

Instead, the PB team here has been looking at ways to improve the speed at which our disciplinary systems respond to player reports. Ideally, the current system will act very quickly after a report has been sent. For example, in your case I went ahead and did some digging and noticed that the player has been exited from the game for their transgressions.

With that said, the system is still relatively new, and there is a lot of tuning going on to increase the systems effectiveness. Although it can be disheartning at times, you're doing the right thing by leaving a report on that player (as you did in this instance). All reports are collected and sent to our system to better calibrate it for the future.

sounds like you're catering to diamond players because there isnt many where as** over** half the population of the server is in silver/bronze

http://www.nerfplz.com/2013/03/distribution-of-ranked-players-on-na.html

sounds like we need this change while diamond/plat remains the same as far as not getting matched with people you report

XxxLumberJackxxXOct 31, 20152 votes

hey woookie. When can I mute myself? I'd really like to because I've been a salty bastard lately.

RottedApplesOct 31, 20155 votes

just make it so they don't appear in the next game. after that the two players will probably be desynced so they won't have a chance to appear in together in the next game. or at least one would hope. theres always a chance.

lolptwoOct 31, 20152 votes

This is the first time ever I seen League breach their -OH ALMIGHTY rule - of not letting us know whether someone was punished or not. Was it so hard Riot? Was it? Does anyone really care if you tell people that someone else was banned for being extremely toxic. I'm sure for him it was an amazing feeling just to know that the player was punished, but for the rest of us, we submit a ticket and get this token response that you can't let us know whether they were punished or not. Why not? YOU JUST DID IT HERE, why can't you do it elsewhere? Do I have to make a witty post that gets 90 upvotes for you to tell me everytime I run into someone like Don Juan did(btw which is a lot) for you to magically release info on whether they were punished or not?

Silents429Oct 31, 20152 votes

I've seen it many times, but you need to calm down or you might hurt yourself.

kinglallakNov 1, 20153 votes

I'd settle for just not having them on my team the following game... they can be on the enemy team if that makes things easier at the very highest and very lowest levels of ranked.

PowderToastNov 3, 20151 votes

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Hey El Don Juan,

We can all relate to the frustration that comes with being matched twice in a row with a rager. While it may be possible to restrict players from playing with another they have reported, we're wary to do this because of how it could affect matchmaking. In addition, we know that sometimes players may have a brief instance of toxicity where they deserve to be reported, but who quickly resume normal play style without incident; in these situations it doesn't always make sense to permanently black list them.

Instead, the PB team here has been looking at ways to improve the speed at which our disciplinary systems respond to player reports. Ideally, the current system will act very quickly after a report has been sent. For example, in your case I went ahead and did some digging and noticed that the player has been exited from the game for their transgressions.

With that said, the system is still relatively new, and there is a lot of tuning going on to increase the systems effectiveness. Although it can be disheartning at times, you're doing the right thing by leaving a report on that player (as you did in this instance). All reports are collected and sent to our system to better calibrate it for the future.

With all do respect your mute function works fine for dealing with "ragers" ... it's the 0/ infinity feeding people especially the ones which admit to intentionally trolling which cause an immediate ulcer to begin forming in my guts as soon as I am forced into another game with them.

penetratiNov 24, 20151 votes

I agree, but I feel like the justice system in LoL is still soo flawed. This season is filled with a lot of trigger happy reporters, and a lot of unfair bans for "passive-aggressiveness" or an in game comment. RIOT needs to implement a system where people who are actually "toxic" and extreme get banned. This season alone has SOOOO many people banned.

alaskaneagleDec 7, 20151 votes

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Hey El Don Juan,

We can all relate to the frustration that comes with being matched twice in a row with a rager. While it may be possible to restrict players from playing with another they have reported, we're wary to do this because of how it could affect matchmaking.

Only because Riot has let the # of trolls grow so exponentially that their are more games trolled than not. If Riot hadn't taken half measure and even done things to encourage trolling this probably wouldn't have become an issue.

Also I have been matched with the same damn troll 3 times in a row before. ALSO, I took a break and the very first game I was paired up with someone on my block list. So maybe the answer is riot starts seriously addressing the trolling problem.

ModUlanopoOct 30, 201510 votes

This is a common request and I get where you're coming from, but the problem is that it would wreck matchmaking.

RisenDarkKnightOct 31, 20151 votes

Defnitely at higher ELOs. However I can't imagine it would have too much effect at Bronze-Gold level where 90% of the playerbase is. There are so many people in each division at lower ELOs that you can report every person you meet and not have any issues for a long, long time.

ModUlanopoOct 31, 20152 votes

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Defnitely at higher ELOs. However I can't imagine it would have too much effect at Bronze-Gold level where 90% of the playerbase is. There are so many people in each division at lower ELOs that you can report every person you meet and not have any issues for a long, long time.

First off, it would still affect it, which runs contrary to the principles of fair matchmaking.

The other problem is that it would dramatically increase wait times as the system scanned so that no one is playing with someone on their list. I have 60+ on mine.

Clown ApocalypseOct 31, 20152 votes

Fair matchmaking isn't repeatedly pairing you with people who ruin your experience. 60+ people out of how many hundreds of thousands? If my options are wait 20 minutes in queue because my block list is so large or play with some guy who has ruined a game with me before, sign me up for a 20 minute wait. Don' make me have to dodge and possibly have to wait 30 minutes on top of LP losses to get away from that person. The worst feeling ever is to get the same guy who just ruined 30 minutes of your time right back on your team again. Sometimes even after you waited for a little while to queue back up. It leads to another loss I'd wager at least 75% of the time based off my own experiences.

It's actually a rare occasion that I realize that i'm playing with someone I have blocked. I actually haven't blocked anyone in a long time. I just mute people in game. Every now and then i'll be in a game and when it's over I'll notice they're already muted even though I didn't do it that game. But if I didn't just block you but reported you also....there should be enough time between us getting paired together again that we at least possibly don't remember each other so there's no hard feelings. We might even only remember playing with each other before vaguely and not how the match went. But there should definitely be 50 games or so in between so they aren't even in my match history anymore.

RaptameiOct 31, 20153 votes

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This is a common request and I get where you're coming from, but the problem is that it would wreck matchmaking.

Not for the VAST majority of users. Just for the few top end pros who stream and provide Riot with free advert-- oh.

HackulatorOct 30, 20156 votes

Never, EVER going to happen. Especially because this would make everyone report any person any time they had a bad game to try to stack their own team, even though that would be idiotic as all players have bad games, but people would still do it.

High5Oct 31, 20153 votes

I don't understand the mentality that says I should have to take a break because someone else was raging.

BronseJul 13, 20163 votes

This reporting system just blows me away how horrible it is, to this day. Not only are you matched with the same people you report for having bad behavior, but it takes a head-turning amount of reports and incidents of threats, trolling, rude, and otherwise bad behavior for someone to simply get a slap on the wrist. Does no one at Riot believe in social justice? I would love to permanently ban well over hundreds of people at this point for the things they have said in one game alone. PERMANENT bans need to take place if they have been reported enough and CONFIRMED to have threatened or took the time to type out insult after insult after insult. It's not just nerd rage that gets these guys going, it's just that they're bad people, or constantly make bad decisions, and letting them talk to the community and take part of it is out of question. Either let people BLACKLIST, or come on the forums/submit a report ticket WITH THE SUMMONER'S NAME and log and hell even VIDEO of what happened, otherwise these people keep getting off scot-free.

KrigjerNov 1, 20152 votes

I had to support an APC Annie in a ranked game once. We lost, they blamed me. Whatever. I went to get a snack and a drink and requeued five minutes later. Got the same APC Annie and had to support. I got blamed once again.

There was also a week where I met the same Tryndamere player multiple times, on my team and on the enemy team. His username was ridiculous which is why I remembered him.

So yes folks, it IS possible to get the same person despite waiting a little bit to queue.

PeakesOct 31, 20151 votes

Correct me if I'm wrong but you can put them in your block list. This would make them not able to message you, queue with you, etc. Unless this is Completely omitted when it comes to rank matchmaking

Android CowboyOct 31, 20152 votes

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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can put them in your block list. This would make them not able to message you, queue with you, etc. Unless this is Completely omitted when it comes to rank matchmaking

All you can do is NOT see their chat. Which means almost nothing. Gnar