RIP TSM!

I'd say on their best day with their current roster they're equal to Origen, which really won't help them get out of groups. Unless something crazy happens like them taking a game off both LGD and the Korean team, I see them finishing at they very best third.

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TSM will be prepared with a great game plan. Plus the fact that most have written them off already gives them a huge advantage for an upset.

Everytime people said that,and everytime they end doing the exact same thing and getting rekt after.Stop Bjergsen=>stop the whole team,i hope for them they have more plans now because without bjergsen,this team does nothing.

I think part of he problem is the way they matched up. Unless Dyrus does a going away montage and plays better than he ever has (which might happen) then TSM had some of the worst teams the possible could get thrown at them and not jut bc they're strong. Acorn and flame are both really strong and can carry games, Ssumday is terrifying when he gets going, and Soaz played strong in the EU playoffs and gauntlet. Bjergsen is gonna have a much harder time getting ahead against the caliber of mid lane players that worlds level teams bring compared to the average NA team, so TSM can't rely on their Bjergsen carry strategy as well, and every team they face will destroy them if they leave Dyrus on his own and sacrifice him to try and get other lanes ahead. Literally some of the worst possible match ups they could get based on how the team strengths match up and how they play.

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TSM will be prepared with a great game plan. Plus the fact that most have written them off already gives them a huge advantage for an upset.

Yea, but in Real Life they are done.

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Honestly, as a CLG fan I don't get the TSM hype. Reginald is a raging and tyrranical asshole, esp compared to hotshotgg who has acome a long way. Santorin is just bjergsen's bitch, the whole team ignores dyrus, and wildturtle... isn't that good (he's a million times better than i will ever be though). CLG has a lot of cool stories/interesting personalities, PLUS they are NA's real team. They won worlds in S1 (or what was effectively worlds), and they have been around in the big picture since before TSM who only really got big when bjergsen joined. Now, don't get me wrong, bjergsen is inspirational and the best mid laner in NA, but he is pretty damn arrogant. People say that Doublelift is, but anyone who doesnt realize that that's (mostly) an act is dumb

Fnatic won S1 not CLG..

What are you on? CLG has never won a major tournament. Their 1st place finish in LCS this season is their first win ever.

well they are playing on the patch where he got nerfed so that might be likely to happen perhaps they will put him on the darius or more of that top lane olaf

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The problem for TSM is that the meta has shifted to where top lane is much more of a carry role. Honestly I don't think Dyrus is up for it.

If the top lane meta has shifted more towards carry champs in the latest patches, Dyrus can only be favoured by that, as the tank meta surely is not fit for him/ has better interpreter than him (who said sOAZ?)

I actually think that Dyrus will enter in the world in what is the best possible meta for him, a meta that is more or less shifting from hevaily tank meta to more of a carry meta but still has various way to go before becoming it, so basically it is going to be bruiser meta in the Worlds, and you know what, it is the one where Dyrus is better cause he can eithero go tankier or more carry than what the adversaries will do if they enbrace this new meta creating a possible different power spike from his enemies that could be used by TSM