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Changes to match history and API regarding unranked games

RiotRevenancer··1 votes·40,165 views

TL;DR: We’re updating the Riot Games API policy so third party websites can once again display your Normal game data. Match history will be changed so it’s consistent with the API.

  • What exactly does this mean for my Normal stats?

Here’s how each system is being changed:

  1. Match history in-client and website You’ll be able to view anyone’s unranked match history instead of just friends’.

  2. Riot Games API Developers will be able to display match history for unranked games as they would ranked games (meaning they can again access normal stats), with a few policy considerations to make sure the data is not abused.

  • Unranked data was available before. Why did it change in the first place?

Back in 2014, we decided unranked game data should only be available to your friends.

We broke it down like this: ranked games should be a matter of public record, unranked should be visible to you and your friends, and customs are just for you. You can read that announcement here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/announcing-new-match-history-beta

As part of this decision, we wanted to ensure that third party developers were not publicly showing any unranked data. We didn’t enforce this decision until the old client was deprecated a couple years later (which is why this thread came up).

  • Why are we reverting now?

We think the benefit of transparency outweighs the risk of revealing unranked data. It’s been accessible on third party sites for some time, and we haven’t seen any significant worrying trends™. Many players primarily play unranked games, and those players want to be able to track their stats and scout their opponents. All players should have access to the compelling experiences third party devs create with the API.

  • What’s changing for third party sites?

We’ll revise the Developer Portal data policies on the aggregation and display of unranked games and add guidelines on how this data should be used.

For example, community developers are free to list unranked match history, but not to use any data to shame players (like a Worst Teemo NA site or something).

The policy will also state that any third party challenges or contests should always be healthy for the game. “Win five games as Jhin” is cool. “Extend the game to 60 minutes in solo queue” is not.

Developers can display aggregated statistics to provide win rates, KDA, or other measures of player performance, but the queues used to aggregate these stats must be clearly identified. For example, if devs wanted to display a player’s Fiora stats they’d need to identify which queues were used to determine their win rate, KDA, etc.

  • What about custom games?

Custom game history will still only be visible to you.

  • When does this change come into effect?

Sometime during patch 7.17!

40 Comments

Loubear11111 votes

Thanks rito, very much approved!! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

ModWuks8 votes

Oh man, now I can get a more realistic number for the time I've Wasted on LoL

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Lalna1 votes

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Oh man, now I can get a more realistic number for the time I've Wasted on LoL

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It won't save that site. STATS API is gone and this is not saying it will return.

ModWuks1 votes

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It won't save that site. STATS API is gone and this is not saying it will return.

Brb, asking questions

ModWuks1 votes

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It won't save that site. STATS API is gone and this is not saying it will return.

Sweet Jesus, not like this :/

Xan e roL1 votes

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It won't save that site. STATS API is gone and this is not saying it will return.

You can find out your ingame time on https://oce.poroscience.com/985859/Lalna ; but only ranked for now since the normal games are not public yet :p

DatShunporina4 votes

Are you serious !

Revenancer : << “Win five games as Jhin” is cool >>

JHIN CANT ACCEPT IT

Jhin Jhin Jhin Jhin

Xan e roL3 votes

I always knew that “Win five games as Jhin” is cool !

Moogles7 votes

Win five games as Jhin is not cool.

Win four games as Jhin ... now we have something Jhin

Death Rex2 votes

We broke it down like this: ranked games should be a matter of public record, unranked should be visible to you and your friends, and customs are just for you. You can read that announcement here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/announcing-new-match-history-beta.

The link isn't working for me, it just says Error 404. Could it just be because I'm from EUW or...?

Max Nobody3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Death Rex,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=V0BgNcOQ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-08-18T20:41:08.573+0000)

The link isn't working for me, it just says Error 404. Could it just be because I'm from EUW or...?

Remove the . at the end of the URL and it should work

PonyXpress2 votes

I might be in the minority, but I'd actually prefer my normals data to not be public (not that I'm at all anyone good/notable). I don't really like the idea of all my data being accessible/public to all sorts of 3rd party websites there for anyone to look up, though I do understand Riot's stance on competitive integrity/transparency in ranked. Is there any chance of Riot meeting people like me in the middle and adding some sort of option to opt out and send back anonymized data in normal games instead?

Kloqdq1 votes

I mean this information until just recently was already available for everyone if they wanted to look. So I don't really see how it's any different from now to before.

DrCyanide2 votes

Woot! I originally got interested in the Riot API because I wanted to know more about my normal games, this is awesome!

The Cane Master2 votes

Will you please let unranked (normal MMR) to be affected by ranked games too? I'm sick of normal games with diamond vs silver.

Support Position2 votes

Better have a toggle for this. I don't want people to see my shit thank you very much. Personally you should be PRIVACY settings ALREADY for RANKED AND NORMS.

Don't want people to see your rank? Done. Don't want people to see your history? DONE. No one can. So stupid...

Jar Jar binks l1 votes

can i watch replays of other Players?

Protroid1 votes

Just to confirm, if I had an application that read data from games generated by Tournament Code, that will also be sorted when this change goes live correct?

RiotSargonas3 votes

No worries there. There's always been an exception filter in place to allow custom games built by the Tournament Code API to still be looked up, regardless of any of the above issues, either before or after now.

Protroid2 votes

Thats awesome to hear! I was a little concerned as some of my calls weren't functioning properly after the API changes went through, but maybe thats my own code being a little silly.

RiotSargonas2 votes

If you want, swing by our developer community Discord and some of your fellow devs or us Rioters who hang out in there might be able to help you troubleshoot: http://discord.gg/riotapi

Protroid1 votes

Actually been in there for a little bit! I'll ask around after I do a bit of refactoring, thank you :D

AzrhaelGr1 votes

So will we be able to see the names of other summoners in non ranked games again?

RiotSargonas2 votes

Yep!

Fedmahn1 votes

Any word on if or when we'll get the more expansive ranked stats in the new client? I really miss them

LostFr0st1 votes

Thanks Riot <3 We Appreciate the pivot.

Hook Hook1 votes

If you are on losing streak in normal now people will know and normal games will be just as toxic and competitive as ranked games. This is total bullshit.

Daggun2 votes

This data has been available to people for a long time and only recently since shortly before the last patch was changed to be hidden. Just report toxic people anyway. Anyone looking at normal games to shame people are just trolling for a reason to tilt you anyway.

DrCyanide2 votes

Your last 20 games (ranked or not) were already available. If anyone cared to know what kind of streak you were on, they already had that info from sites like op.gg

Benjae1 votes

Thank you Riot

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Tacit1 votes

Will the available info only be going forward or from all time?

Yuri By Mail1 votes

What I'm worried about is whether champion rankings, I.E. best Gangplanks NA, also are counted as worst if they rank all players. That's kind of a cop-out if so.

One Strike1 votes

Are we going to be able to watch replays of other players?

Duucijs1 votes

I'm all for having a history of all our matches available for anyone to see, but has opting out of public match histories ever been a thing in consideration? Sometimes, moving to different servers and changing your in game name is not enough to hide from someone.

wyscigufka seba1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Kloqdq1 votes

any significant worrying trends™.

Wow I didn't know Riot had "trends" trade marked!

Junmita1 votes

I came to this thread through google search to see if the changes were implemented so I could start playing normal games anxiety-free. Pretty sad that the vocal side that was against this change won.

As someone with 2000+ co op vs ai games, I was excited to finally be able to enjoy playing pvp without the pressure of KDA and Win/Lose ratios. I strongly agree with Riot's initial stance, that normal games should be treated as a fun pick-up games. That ranked should be the place for hardcore players.

Back to Co op vs AI for me I guess. And it sucks, because it's plagued with botting accounts nowdays. I easily find 1 or 2 botters every single game.

Champion Skin1 votes

Why does Win/lose ratios or KDA matter? and it being shown in your match history doesn't really matter does it? The worst thing that happens is that someone looks down at you? But then again there are probably people who would look down at you simply for playing coop vs ai games so there still that?

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