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Introducing Invulnerability HUD

RiotRiot Penrif··1 votes·60,023 views

Have you ever been sad when a big attack lands on its target only to find out they're invulnerable?

Have you wanted to know that the health bar you're about to lay into can't be moved?

Did you see the Taric Ult in the Ryze Champion Spotlight and wondered wtf?

Well, have we got the feature for you! It's Invulnerability HUD, (most likely) coming in Patch 6.18!

http://i.imgur.com/wnEcDRg.gif

We've added a fancy gold border to champion's health bars when they can't be touched. In addition, we pulled a couple abilities that acted a lot like invulnerability and went ahead and made them fully embrace invulnerability. We're hoping this makes interacting (or not) with invulnerable champions a less frustrating experience. If we've bounced off that target please let us know in the comments below.

82 Comments

RiotRiot Penrif8 votes

Due to things, this won't be showing up on PBE 'til Monday, so as y'all know.

George LS6 votes

I think op is trying to be a l3gend@ry meme-scoper, he featured jayce's "Can't touch this " dance on the whole invulnerability thing.

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

Can't touch this ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

derrichter19975 votes

I would prefer a duration bar beneath it, that indicates the remaining time of the effect. A good example would be the cc indicators on the health bar at the moment.

midorii4 votes

What other abilities were altered to "embrace invulnerability"?
I'm guessing something along the lines of Master Yi's Alpha Strike? Will his health bar now go all shiny and yellow when he does that? Can his health bar be visible the whole time he is alpha striking now?

Kritty1 votes

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What other abilities were altered to "embrace invulnerability"?
I'm guessing something along the lines of Master Yi's Alpha Strike? Will his health bar now go all shiny and yellow when he does that? Can his health bar be visible the whole time he is alpha striking now?

I'm curious about this myself. Can we get a list of the abilities that were altered?

toxıc sIut2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Penrif,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=Tt3km9pO,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2016-08-26T22:47:13.830+0000)

Kindred and Kayle ults were the ones pulled into proper invulnerability.

YamahaManiac1 votes

Master Yi has no health bar during his alpha strike because he is no longer on the map.

UnderscorBunnies5 votes

I think more along the lines of tryndamere ult

RiotRiot Penrif22 votes

We decided against altering Trynd ult - he's only invuln at very low HP, and he rapidly life-steals out of that state. Disco-invuln-hud wasn't a thing we're interested in inflicting upon the world.

toxıc sIut5 votes

i would love to see a video clip of that from during testing.

Olkard3 votes

Darude Immune-storm.

roroi12 votes

What about having it flash red for the whole duration to indicate his ultimate is on? I know he has a little vfx around him when he ults but that's pretty much impossible to spot in any fight that has any aoe spells/indicators cluttering the ground.

Anth8952 votes

I always base it on his yell. Though it is difficult to tell when it's gonna end other than timing it.

Phoquelesanimaux2 votes

Many players in low elo are dying because they don't figure when the tryndamere ult is activated. Please do something about it, Tryndamere is already frustrating to deal with. It's a toxic champion.

soderia2 votes

When he ults you hear RRRAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! All the time. His ult has a duration of 5 seconds so you might want to start counting then. It's not rocket sienceDrMundo

Phoquelesanimaux1 votes

In the middle of a teamfight the "RAAAAAHHHHH" is not always clear. Then for the duration, I've always the doubt for its end.

DeathBurst3 votes

Hum, so you're telling me the less visible/readable of all invulnerability skill, the one that needed the most this HUD to properly interact with, doesn't get it? That's... hum... very annoying, and very surprising, and i'm really disappointed.

And I'm saying that as someone who started spamming Tryndamere 2 weeks ago, so I can't imagine for people who don't play with/against him regularly... How are they supposed to tell when they can damage Tryndamere again?

QuadraKev5 votes

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Dorr7 votes

Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed! Can't be slowed!

I miss this

86 Kg Rekksalot1 votes

I think giving it a different hud like suggested by Roroi would be really nice. It's pretty hard to see in teamfights and is Standings quite obviously against the "CLARITY" concept.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

I don't think thats how you should define invulnerability. I think of invulnerability more along the lines of *This champion isn't going to die" rather then can't take damage.

Lardee1 votes

I really hope riot stops trying to change league every single patch. Balance changes are necessary but continuing to add in assists thinking the players need it is really not needed. If that is the way we are going then might as well implement every assist option out there. Show tower ranges all the time, ward ranges all the time, show globally all cooldowns of champs so we can see when its available, show master yi healing duration etc etc.

RiotRiot Penrif16 votes

Kindred and Kayle ults were the ones pulled into proper invulnerability.

midorii3 votes

Thanks for the clarification.

Any chance other abilities making someone non targetable can be simplified to invulnerability? Even though I know what Alpha Strike does, exactly how it works, and what to expect; it still doesn't stop the move from feeling very frustrating when his healthbar "disappears" when used and you're trying to chase after him.

I'm usually left frantically clicking wherever and irritated because the design of having his whole indicator disappear is just visually jarring, especially when something called Flash exists in the game, and has a similar effect.

I know there's other abilities that have this kind of weirdness going on too, Fiora's old ult was just like this as well and it used to drive me bonkers.

Guiotine8 votes

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Thanks for the clarification.

Any chance other abilities making someone non targetable can be simplified to invulnerability? Even though I know what Alpha Strike does, exactly how it works, and what to expect; it still doesn't stop the move from feeling very frustrating when his healthbar "disappears" when used and you're trying to chase after him.

I'm usually left frantically clicking wherever and irritated because the design of having his whole indicator disappear is just visually jarring, especially when something called Flash exists in the game, and has a similar effect.

I know there's other abilities that have this kind of weirdness going on too, Fiora's old ult was just like this as well and it used to drive me bonkers.

Well the thing is, when a character goes untargetable, they're not necessarily invulnerable. Yi can still be damaged and killed by DoTs while Alpha striking, Fizz and Vlad can be hurt by both DoTs and tethers while troll poling/troll pooling. Elise can be damaged by DoTs while Spider E'ing, so adding this invulnerability HUD to abilities like that makes little sense. and if Riot goes ahead and makes them grant invulnerability as well, then they're getting buffed all around with a free Zhonya's (minus the root) built into their kits, which is unnecessary.

midorii1 votes

Literally had no idea they still take damage while all the nonsense is happening.

Cavni2 votes

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Kindred and Kayle ults were the ones pulled into proper invulnerability.

If Kindred ult is considered invulnerability, why isn't Trynd ult considered invulnerability? It functions the same (you can do damage, but they won't die).

Hyrum Graff2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Penrif,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=Tt3km9pO,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2016-08-26T22:47:13.830+0000)

Kindred and Kayle ults were the ones pulled into proper invulnerability.

Does that mean Kindred's gameplay has been changed, or just the indicator?

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Same question... did i miss a patch note or something?

Big Booby1 votes

{quoted}

What other abilities were altered to "embrace invulnerability"?
I'm guessing something along the lines of Master Yi's Alpha Strike? Will his health bar now go all shiny and yellow when he does that? Can his health bar be visible the whole time he is alpha striking now?

Alpha strike is Untargetable not Invulnerable

soderia1 votes

When master yi use his Q ability he becomes untargetable. He can still take damige from, lets say ignite or a brand passive. So I do not think he gets a border.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Eh, can you pin this to the Home Page instead of Dev Corner? Now nobody can see it unless they specifically go into the Dev Corner forum.

Clowington3 votes

I love this idea! One concern though, for people who play on colorblind mode won't the yellow border blend in with their own health bar?

rtbf2256182412 votes

What do you mean "full" invulnverability? Did something bypass it before?

Or did you just make it so you can't reduce the actual health of the champion while Invulnerable which is what i'm thinking.

Joushou2 votes

Will the effect show during stasis from Zhonyas and Lissandra self-ult?

Voodoo Jelly2 votes

I strongly agree with a previous commenter about Tryndamere. He needs some indicator similar to this that should simply be on for the duration of his ultimate. Maybe red, because he's angry. The "disco ult" is an easily remedied problem for the benefits of visual clarity that an indicator would help provide for Trynd.

UnbornHeretic2 votes

What abilities would "embrace invulnerability"? Does this means the untargetable ones like Fizz E and Vlad W? The champions who have those spells are doing relatively well already in my opinion, though vlad has a negative winrate at all elos since the nerfs. I would really like to see an indicator on Urgot for his ultimate so you can see when his buff goes down. Not for me, but for all the people in my games who dont know how Urgot works.

Solidair31 votes

Are you super sure it shows up enough? I'm looking at this gif and I feel like it blends in with the health bar a little too much. I guess it will be less obvious on a red health bar, but for the self it's a bit... hard to see.

RiotRiot Penrif3 votes

Good point, let me see if I can swap that gif for one with a different bar...

edit - boom

Rockrogash1 votes

What about Shen? Will it show him as invulnerable too when he's inside his thingything circle?

Shuriman Curator3 votes

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What about Shen? Will it show him as invulnerable too when he's inside his thingything circle?

His W? He's not invulnerable in it, he just blocks auto attacks.

Mole Lord1 votes

This will be very helpful, thank you!

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