mods pls :(

JustA kleo·Oct 22, 2019·1 votes·3,419 views

idk where to go so sorry for posting on a 2nd acc but for real.

(btw jennifer420 here) so in another post we were talking about hidden champion interactions like zyra getting bigger if hit by leona, zilean vs voli etc and i said

thresh gets 2 souls from nunu, 1 for nunu 1 for willumb but he only gets 1 soul from sejuali because seju is a redhead/jew. i even said DONT QUOTE ME ON THAT ITS BEEN YEARS SINCE IVE READ ABOUT THAT.

turns out its because she is ginger not jewish. im not gonna use my meh-ish english skills as excuse but the mods going "thats hatespeech - permabanned from the boards" is laughable.

my comment listing several other hidden champion eastereggs clearly shows i just tried to list another one and used the wrong word i wasnt trying to be hateful or anything. also if you wanna go really deep, the easteregg basically says gingers have no souls (clearly a reference to south park) so isnt the easteregg itself alrdy hateful?

mods cmon, thats laughable. its not like i just went "seju has no soul cause she is xy" i CLEARLY listed other interactions in a discussion about interactions.

it would be nice if you could NOT permaban me for this. i mean cmon.

15 Comments

ModThe DjinnOct 22, 201910 votes

turns out its because she is ginger not jewish.

The interaction with Sejuani (and Quinn, and Kled) giving one soul is because Bristle (and Valor, and Skaarl) is an animal, and is not implied to have a soul in the same way as a human.

Regardless, it is in no way acceptable to imply, quote, post, or otherwise communicate on the boards a prejudiced, offensive, and insulting statement like the one you posted. We are not in the business of claiming people don't have souls due to their religious beliefs.

The punishment will not be lifted at this time.

JustA kleoOct 22, 20191 votes

first off, then why does nunu give a soul?

thats stupid. my comment clearly shows i was talking about interactions and didnt mean harm in any way. are you for real? even when you know it yourself, you still insist on keeping this acc of mine banned? so basically i now have to use a different acc cause you wanna keep an acc banned even tho YOU KNOW it meant no harm?

so now when i switch between eu and na boards i have to change acc every time

ModThe DjinnOct 22, 201911 votes

[{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=x5Mt5EjF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:22:00.620+0000)first off, then why does nunu give a soul?

Because in Runeterra Yetis are sentient creatures, much like Trolls or Yordles. They're not animals.

thats stupid. my comment clearly shows i was talking about interactions and didnt mean harm in any way.

We have very strict rules against hateful speech. Implying a Jewish person doesn't have a soul is discriminatory, insulting, and hateful. Whether you meant it that way or not is, ultimately, not enough to grant an exception to the rule.

JustA kleoOct 22, 20191 votes

so bottom line... youre totally fine with me using a 2nd account to basically bypass a permaban, which you wont revert even tho i never meant any harm?

ModThe DjinnOct 22, 20197 votes

[{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=x5Mt5EjF,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:37:28.847+0000)so bottom line... youre totally fine with me using a 2nd account to basically bypass a permaban, which you wont revert even tho i never meant any harm?

We do not typically mass ban accounts save in extreme circumstances. If you violate any board rules on a secondary account, it and other future accounts may be subject to an escalated punishment, as per our normal policies.

JustA kleoOct 22, 20191 votes

cant you just unban my other acc pls? and well at least youre fine with me using another acc i guess

ModThe DjinnOct 22, 20194 votes

[{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=x5Mt5EjF,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T02:48:48.841+0000)cant you just unban my other acc pls? and well at least youre fine with me using another acc i guess

As previously mentioned, the punishment will not be reversed at this time. I have nothing more to add.

JustA kleoOct 22, 20191 votes

what does "at this time" mean? this time im serious when i say my english isnt that good.

ModThe DjinnOct 22, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=x5Mt5EjF,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-22T03:05:01.251+0000)what does "at this time" mean? this time im serious when i say my english isnt that good.

It means that I will not be lifting your suspension today or any time soon.

In some cases we allow players to appeal a suspension after six months to a year based on the severity of their actions and how much they are able to convince us theor future behavior will be acceptable. If you wish, you are welcome to swing my the moderation discord in six or seven months to discuss the possibility, although I cannot give you any specific promises on what our response would be, as each case is different.

JustA kleoOct 22, 20191 votes

at least thats reasonable. thanks.

SukishooOct 22, 20191 votes

Nunu is a child, I think you mean Willump who like Djinn said, is a sentient creature, he even speaks in game to nunu.

KFCeytronOct 22, 20191 votes

If the post in question did indeed say something like "but it's been years since I heard this idea so I'm not sure if it accurately explains this design element," I think that makes a substantive difference in its level of malice. I do 100% agree that even the suggestion that certain groups of people don't have souls to possibly explain some in-game phenomenon should be removed from Boards, but that's a far cry from stating such as an individual belief. It's possible that the former stems not from horrible, horrible racism, but rather from a dearth of social self-awareness arising in part from cultural differences between NA and Europe. Outside of certain European countries where a statement of racial inferiority is actually illegal outside of an explicitly educational setting, it might be recognized as distinct from a personal expression of hatred. Just my rambling hypothesis based on insufficient data.

TL;DR: "This is what I believe" would likely merit a permaban, but "I heard this wacky idea once" might only need a deletion and a stern warning.

ModThe DjinnOct 22, 20191 votes

{quoted}TL;DR: "This is what I believe" would likely merit a permaban, but "I heard this wacky idea once" might only need a deletion and a stern warning.

When it comes to things we consider to be zero tolerance or close to it I do not believe letting someone slide by with "I heard this wacky idea once" counts as a mitigating circumstance. There are some things you should simply know are insulting and offensive, and religious discrimination (especially to the point where it categorizes someone as inhuman) is one of those.

JustA kleoOct 31, 20191 votes

i dont wanna start this all over again but AGAIN: riot themselfes made the joke that gingers or whatever its called have no soul. go ban them pls.

ModThe DjinnOct 31, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=x5Mt5EjF,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-31T14:04:16.135+0000)i dont wanna start this all over again but AGAIN: riot themselfes made the joke that gingers or whatever its called have no soul.

You were not punished for the old "gingers have no soul" joke, which appears to be largely agreed (even by those it makes fun of) to be fairly innocent. You were punished for posting a comment implying that Jewish people don't have souls.