Gaining Honor at End of Season

Lord Rahl·Aug 31, 2018·0 votes·1,517 views

I have been trying to climb to platinum, and this is the first season I might make it. I am excited about the victorious skin too because I wasn't gold last season. I was chat restricted and honor reverted to zero based on one game where I had a teemo support admitting to inting in chat, the entire team flamed me and I responded "I can't do anything because I have a trash troll support", and two games before, our top admitted to running it down, and I said "Please stop or dc, this would be easier if you weren't in this game." after they were flaming the team. I admit that I should have just muted and kept my mouth shut, but this happened a week and a half ago and support said that it takes roughly a week and a half to two weeks to gain and honor checkpoint at the fastest. With 8 checkpoints to go, and 8 weeks left in the season, that makes it impossible to get back up to 2, get any rewards, etc, when almost every single game I see worse, from one side or the other. LONG STORY SHORT, for people that get notifications that you are honored 300% more than the average player, and typically very positively contribute to the community, but have 1 bad day, can riot make is a little easier to get back to honorable? Or just in general this late in the season? Not saying super easy, so people don't just flame badly then get back up in a week, but at least possible? I think playing 200 games over the course of 2 months should be more than enough to make up for two bad games and to show you are honorable (not saying that is the solution, but still)

5 Comments

ModKnightsKemplarSep 8, 20182 votes

I have no experience with climbing up from honor 0, but I have heard that it is absolutely possible to do in a week or two.

The caveat is that you don't gain ground automatically. There's an area between "honorable" and "getting punished." Riot has clarified that you can maintain dishonorable status if you are still drawing valid reports to your account, even if you aren't getting punished for them.

If it's taking you a long time, that's likely the issue. You should think hard about what a truly positive player looks like, and try to be that. The system is designed to force you to improve, so if you haven't done so, you won't make progress.

Lord RahlSep 13, 20181 votes

I promise that isn't the case. Without exaggeration, the most negative thing I have said in a month was "Rough game, oh well, gg". Getting honors almost every game, and playing around 30 games a day. Still at honor 0, 1 checkpoint.

ModKnightsKemplarSep 13, 20181 votes

Well, I have a friend who, since I posted that comment, claims to have climbed back from honor 0 in 45-49 games (can't remember exact number they said).

Not flaming is a good start, but "neutral" behavior still isn't "positive" behavior. I see a major misconception in many people's minds that saying nothing is positive. It isn't. To be a truly positive player, you need to communicate with your team effectively. That includes strategizing, but may also include some encouragement.

I have a feeling that part of the reason I have never had trouble with the honor system is that I go out of my way to be a positive influence. Without seeing your chat logs and gameplay, I can't say for sure if that's your issue, but my gut and experience both tell me that the system is working fine.

All I can say is, keep at it!

Lord RahlSep 13, 20181 votes

Perhaps 45 games over the course of a couple months...The issue is the time limit. Last year Riot admitted that they wouldn't allow someone to climb back in under 2.5 months (just stated in forums), I don't know how the honor system has since evolved. As for "not being positive", I have made note of (in the mood of hopefully climbing back in time), in every single game, complimenting at least one player on some part of their performance ("That's a hard matchup top, you are doing great at CSing though Renekton!"), and one more positive to the team as a whole ("Great team fight, just unlucky, you guys did great, next time for sure!"), and beyond that, only strategic comments that are made in a positive manner ("Great job so far Udyr, let's see if we can get dragon soon? :D"), and only neutral comments otherwise. A riot player behavioralist in a ticket told me it was better to NOT be positive, and just say nothing at all, and he climbed his honor with having every player on his team muted and not saying a thing (coming from a random player, I would say that is questionable, but coming from a Riot employee? That tells me there really is a severe issue with the honor system, and no, Riot doesn't care about positive behavior, just, kind of not being negative, over 2 months, because it is impossible for someone to change in under that these days.. (even if the ban arguably wasn't justified, because according to Riot in a ticket I put in, "defending yourself and saying it isn't your fault is implicitly blaming others, and that is punishable, it is better to just mute, than say 'it isn't my fault, my support has been AFK all game'".<- which was what I said in one of the two games I was flagged for btw 'blaming another player', the other was telling my top to "please afk, we might be able to win if you do, stop" (because top Irelia was spawning, to run to turret, just running it down, 15 deaths in like 12-13 mins. Admitted to inting) I have lost all faith in the Riot honor system. I think it means well, but is terribly broken right now.

Lord RahlSep 13, 20181 votes

I will admit, in the two games I was flagged for, I said some meaner things (nothing personal, just passive aggressive) such as "I hate that I freaking get so many DC's. It screws over so many of my games, this is BS. There is nothing I can do. People like that shouldn't be playing if their internet is having trouble from the start" and for the Irelia game "I hate trash players that just int, without provocation. They are the worst types of players, screw them. Shouldn't be a part of our community." Either way, I get I said negative things (Even though I realize I shouldn't, I still feel I was justified), but the point remains, that since, like 5 weeks ago, I have done what I said, not a single negative comment, and positive every single game. And only gotten one checkpoint. I talked to player support, and they said "Your current games don't matter, the games that you were flagged for 5 weeks ago are keeping you from gaining honor, and will continue to slow your progress. I know it may seem like the honor system is against you, but it is your fault for being a toxic player. You should avoid that behavior in the future."