So my comment got deleted for 'harassment' :D

Cowseed·Sep 2, 2017·5 votes·405 views

I recently commented on one of those upvote bomb 'ggez' post about me opinions on the matter. @laughing fish deleted my comment for 'harassement'. I can't even review the comment with small clip that is actually shown to me in the alert notifications. I'm guessing you could probably have access to the deleted comment in full so if you could copy and paste the entire thing here so I can actually review if I was 'harassing' anyone that'd be great.

If I was actually harassing anyone then I'll let it go. But if I find that I wasn't then that could probably hint the boards are going down a shit path and I aint letting shit that happen with me.

[vayne-pose]

16 Comments

Laughing FishSep 2, 20177 votes

I'm sorry you feel that way. Here is your complete deleted comment:

....Inhales

Dude.... as the other guy pointed out you probably have issues.

One of my friends committed suicide two years ago partially due to online harassment.

How is this necessary? This point is just trying to appeal to emotion right there.

these are people i want to stab in the face

Why would you think like that?

Why is it that people are always actively trying to make ggez out to be as bad as murder. You can't tell me otherwise at this point because you actually braught up suicide.

GGEZ IS NOT FUCKING BULLYING SO STOP TRYING TO SPOUT BS!! No seriously. If you feel "bullyied" by some random person who you've never met, who doesn't know anything about you, making a comment at the end of a game, directed at 5 people, that shows up for less than 2 seconds then YOU have the problem. No one else. Get your fuckin shit together if you're going to stab people for saying vague shit that isn't even made directly at you.

I despise people who try to bend the truth to make fake as shit 'justice' as much as people who actually go against justice for personal reasons.

Review what you just wrote because it is the bottom of the barrel among all the cancerous comments that try to defend ggez. Not saying that comments defending it are wrong because some of them make actually good points but what you just said is probably the worst I've ever seen.

The mains issues with this comment:

Repeatedly telling someone they have issues is not helpful, accomplishes nothing, and just makes the discussion unpleasant.
Saying someone's argument is the "worst I've ever seen", referring to their argument as "BS', and stating their comments is "the bottom of the barrel among all the cancerous comments" are completely unnecessary insults that escalate the argument into a personal one.

For these reasons, I deemed the comment to be harassment, as it was filled with unnecessary insults. You are welcome to argue against someone's opinions, but it is important for the health of the boards that arguments remain civil.

CowseedSep 2, 20171 votes

Now as I'm a lazy person I googled the definition for harassment and first thing I saw is this 'aggressive pressure or intimidation'.

Now the second part would most likely fit this description and you may somewhat be in the right to delete it but the first part is a weak reason. It really only serves to point out your bias, fish master.

On second thought screw it. Speaking to you like I do with everyone else. Pointing out things I find to be real sketchy.

You say that

Repeatedly telling someone they have issues is not helpful, accomplishes nothing, and just makes the discussion unpleasant.

Then why is it that half the comments on the boards aren't deleted. Why is it only currently topics on THIS thread that are currently being deleted. Why is it that my points that the other party has no issues with, that I even appologies for saying about the wrong person deleted because you didn't like it.

Why aren't these

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But my comment that tells someone that they might have issues for wanting to stab someone in the face for typing for letters in an online game is 'harrassment'.

THESE comments also don't add anything to the discussion and if we, people who don't get offended by the words ggez were like you, we'd fuckin complain but we can let things slide. The only thing it serves to do is try to put people who say these words in a bad light no matter the situation/context of saying it. No matter their intent ect. It's mostly just ego shaming generalizations made to insult EVERYONE who does the thing.

Now that I've addressed the stupid justification of why the comment was deleted let me address the part you mentioned that actually makes sense.

Review what you just wrote because it is the bottom of the barrel among all the cancerous comments that try to defend ggez. Not saying that comments defending it are wrong because some of them make actually good points but what you just said is probably the worst I've ever seen.

It's from personal experience. I've had people call me toxic, ghosted my comments on like 1 or 2 proceeding threads that sometimes don't have anything to do with that. I've also seen many post badly written about ggez. This was the worst because it tries to take it a step further than the normal etiquette discussion to talk about and call it online bullying or saying it's grounds for people to take their on life. You also probably saw that the comment was very poorly written as you deleted that too. Now my response wasn't the nicest but it sure wasn't the meanest. I was saying my true opinions not as an insult. Just a blut truth. Sure I guess my opinion is a bit harse so that probably deletable I'd say but the bull your giving me about 'doesn't add to the discussion'. I don't want to hear your bias. If your going to be biased don't let it be obvious especially to me.

[fiora-cool]

Laughing FishSep 2, 20176 votes

As I previously stated, if you see a comment that you think crosses the line, you are welcome to report it. We cannot read every comment ever posted, but if you report it we will review it and act upon if needed. Those comments you mentioned will be reviewed, however next time it would be better to just hit the report button.

However, whether someone else broke the rules is completely separate from if you broke the rules.

CowseedSep 2, 20171 votes

However, whether someone else broke the rules is completely separate from if you broke the rules.

Wow! You don't say. Is this said to try to piss me off cause that's what it feels like. I'm not pissed off, though. This just sounds a lot like other things i've been told by people insulting my intellegence :/

Laughing FishSep 2, 20175 votes

It is a reminder as you seemed confused about this matter. No matter how many comments you find of others breaking the rules, it will never be relevant to your comments removal.

CowseedSep 2, 20171 votes

Considering the fact that those comments were made within the same thread as mine and are top commits which are in your face I call bullshit, fish. Delete this comment if you want for harassment or whatever but this isn't for others to see. It's for you.

Those comments might not be but your bias most certainly can be relevant. Tell me otherwise.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Laughing FishSep 2, 20175 votes

Alright. I have explained this to you, and you have elected not to listen. Rather than explaining it again, I will instead simply leave you with this warning: if you continue to harass others on the boards, a suspension will be placed on your account. What you choose to do with that knowledge is completely up to you.

CowseedSep 2, 20172 votes

Dude I have explained this to you and you have elected to sniff up your power like its cocaine. Part of my post was harassment. You wanted to make sure that you had a reason to ban me, I'm assuming bias, so you made another point that was ridiculous. I know I was harassing the dude. But for only one of the reasons you mentioned. Now go ahead and suspend me for speaking my mind (to you) :D

Bye and have a nice day. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Hemulen MagiSep 2, 20172 votes

Yes, Laughing Fish has gone on a rogue spree, abusing his power as a moderator. It's a shame, but that is the risk of having unpaid moderators selected from the public community who are invested in their own personal agendas within the community rather than their professional duties. Laughing Fish removed my posts as well with the reason quoted "Don't be a jerk."

Well, excuse me if defending free speech and saying that banter such as "GG EZ" should not be punishable is being a "jerk". Anyone can disagree with my stance, as that is their right to do so, but to suppress the discussion... Both sides of the argument are defensible. There is no justification to simply hide half of debate just because Laughing Fish has decided to enforce his bias.

Laughing FishSep 2, 20177 votes

You made references to mental disabilities as an insult, and you yourself said "I only mention short-buses because I know it will offend the type supporting this thread." So even you admit your comments were designed as bait. Your comments most likely deserved a ban, but I chose to be lenient and issue a warning to give you a chance to correct your behavior.

Hemulen MagiSep 2, 20171 votes

I was clarifying the divide on the issue being discussed. Players who would be offended by the statement would fit into the group who feel that "GG EZ" should be punishable. That was my point. I even mentioned that I don't personally have any issue with people who have actual disabilities. It's cool that you have the power to literally ban people you disagree with on a first offense. There is no way that fair and open discussion can occur on these boards. I'll leave it up to Riot staff to decide whether they think an abuse of power has taken place.

You have my feedback on your actions. You can defend your actions or you can come to see my perspective on the matter. I would have defended your right to disagree with me if needed if you had responded rather than simply deleting posts.

Laughing FishSep 2, 20176 votes

I was clarifying the divide on the issue being discussed. Players who would be offended by the statement would fit into the group who feel that "GG EZ" should be punishable. That was my point.

I completely understand that, hence why the post was deleted. The "point" that you can bait people into arguments and offend them isn't an acceptable point.

You have my feedback on your actions. You can defend your actions or you can come to see my perspective on the matter.

I can tell you now, intentionally baiting others and insulting those with a disabilities is not going to be accepted on the boards. If you continue to post like that, we will not come see your "perspective", you will simply be banned.

Hemulen MagiSep 2, 20171 votes

You know what, I am not so invested in popularity within these boards as you, and I don't find arguing here to be worth my time. I did not insult anyone with an actual disability. I made it very clear that the statement was targeted only at hypersensitive people who would find the reference insulting to begin with. I have no issue with disabled people whatsoever, and you would know that if you knew me, but you don't know me, and neither do most others on these boards since I am not as well known and popular as you. There are no checks and balances, so we have to trust you moderators to be unbiased, but you aren't. These boards are your territory, so I won't get any sort of fair treatment here. If it were just my posts that were deleted by you, I would maybe believe your motives. But you deleted posts from others, such as Cowseed, in one fell swoop to suppress an entire side of a debate. That smells like you picked a side of the argument and chose to abuse your powers to enforce your perspective.

Laughing FishSep 2, 20174 votes

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RosieperezSep 3, 20174 votes

At which point do you think that insinuating that anyone who disagrees is mentally disabled is supportive of your arguement?

It's an insult and no longer a debate. It's obvious that nobody can persuade you, or debate you on your opinion because you see them as inferior. That's a problem right there. The other problem is how you went about it. Go ahead an believe yourself the moral highground, but maybe you can look at yourself again and realize what you are.

Hemulen MagiSep 4, 20171 votes

Since the point I was making was "look at how oversensitive the league community is and how hypocritical the rules are"... All I can say is that I was proven correct. I mentioned a short bus to point out how the hypersensitive boards readers would lose their minds over that if they find "GG EZ" worthy of punishment. I know that most league players have no problem hearing off-color language in movies or tv shows. They'll see something 10x less tame than "short bus" in an episode of Rick and Morty, but if they see it on league then it's suddenly personally offensive to them.

The reason is very simple actually, and it's that you people enjoy seeing others punished. It's a way to feel that you have power over them. When someone says "GG EZ" after a game, you just see it as an opportunity to have them punished so that you can get some amount of revenge for them beating you in a game. When you see someone say "short bus" on the boards, you want to grab your pitchforks and torches so that you can witness a good hanging in town square. I don't take pleasure from others being punished, but if you think you're the better person, then enjoy yourself.