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Why do so many people want us to get rid of permabans?????

BBKong·11/11/2019, 4:04:51 AM·5 votes·4,978 views

I see multiple threads or comments on this all the time. Permabans are a thing in LOTS of multiplayer games, sure some games don't issue them out for toxicity as much, but others still do and we've been fine with this system for a long time.

You break the rules = you get a punishment. It doesn't matter if they will make a new account, there's no real good way to stop that either. How many people are going to be satisfied with a "toxic players only" mode? I'm sure plenty of them would just create new accounts if they got put into it anyway.

"You lose your LP, any money spent on the game, champs bought (basically any progress you've made on that account) and have to level (or buy) a new account" is a decent deterrent for some people. It's a fine punishment.

Why are people so adamant that permabans suck? I know they're the minority at least on the boards, but can one of these people help me understand? I really don't get it

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Pyrosan11/11/2019, 4:20:48 AM5 votes

everyone who wants permabanned removed are people who have been permabanned lol you see so many threads about permabans bc the support team says "go and discuss on the boards rather than talk 2 us"

Umbral Regent11/11/2019, 12:21:24 PM4 votes

Basically, Pyrosan's got the gist of it. Although, it does fall into a few more categories than just players who've been permabanned. I'd reckon there's maybe three camps of players who want to see permabans removed;

Toxic players who were permabanned and would insist that the system is at fault rather than themselves (the types of players who will typically mislabel their flaming and misbehavior as "banter" or call others snowflakes for not enjoying being flamed)
Players who reform after their permanent ban, but endear themselves to the idealistic thought that they could somehow get their account back
Players who play within the bounds of the rules, but insist that the rules are overly strict and that permabans should only ever be placed for Gameplay offenses rather than Chat offenses (they typically level the same arguments as toxic permabanned players; "you have the mute feature, so why report", in the most basic sense.)

Barring the second camp, most of those players who disagree with permanent suspensions largely disagree with it in use against chat misbehavior, since, as it were, they believe that chat misbehavior doesn't actually affect the game, and that even if it does, other players have the ability to mute them or otherwise "grow up" and tough it out; that the onus is on everyone else to accept the misbehavior rather than on themselves to follow the rules.

Some naive players will of course go the extra mile and argue "free speech" (despite that only really applying to the Government, and even then having its own limitations), but by and large, through my experience talking with players from all camps, I can say with general confidence that the previous paragraph encapsulates their main problem point with the system and permanent bans pretty well.

KVbqbFsC8e11/14/2019, 1:11:44 AM1 votes

Well, when permabans are given out by a completely automated system that ignores all context, it feels pretty weak. I've played alot of games over the years, and none of them dish out bans the way League does.

myamia11/21/2019, 11:08:52 AM1 votes

because a lot of permbans are bullshit.