Found the joker rule

The Kombinator·Sep 4, 2019·1 votes·4,256 views

"Posting designed to bait conversation or falsify content."

Now the point of creating a discussion, or answering it is to create a conversation. Or i could say. BAIT A CONVERSATION.

Based on this rule i should report every single post, and thread, because they are "baiting" me into a conversation.

Now don't take this offensively. I'm sure that there is a sensible reason behind it, that this is not exactly the designers were thought when it was written. But i believe, that it requires a bit clarification. Because right now you could delete the entire forum based on this rule.

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Silent GravitySep 4, 20196 votes

There is a difference between baiting a conversation and creating a conversation.

The KombinatorSep 4, 20191 votes

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There is a difference between baiting a conversation and creating a conversation.

Explain it.

You just baited me into a conversation.

Umbral RegentSep 4, 20192 votes

Now, before I try to explain the rule to the best of my understanding, allow me to point out something;

Now don't take this offensively. I'm sure that there is a sensible reason behind it, that this is not exactly the designers were thought when it was written. But i believe, that it requires a bit clarification. ... Based on this rule i should report every single post, and thread, because they are "baiting" me into a conversation.

Because right now you could delete the entire forum based on this rule.

You just baited me into a conversation.

Being excessively sarcastic and literal aren't the best ways to go about getting an explanation. People are going to take it as you trying to go on the offensive when you make sure to tack on passive-aggressive comments like this. If you want a rule explained, simply ask.

Explain it.

Since it's placed under "Spamming or Trolling" in the Boards Universal Rules, it very likely refers to posts which disingenuously attempt to engage people - for example, "change my mind"-style posts - as well as posts specifically made to stir up reactions and controversy.

As for falsifying content, while I'm not 100% sure what that would mean, I figure it means creating a story, spinning a yarn, or otherwise just bullshitting people to get people - whether curious or otherwise - to look at your post. The Moderation team would probably be able to clarify it better, but that's my take on it, so do take that with a grain of salt.

Posts prompting actual, legitimate discussion are not affected by this rule.

The KombinatorSep 5, 20191 votes

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Now, before I try to explain the rule to the best of my understanding, allow me to point out something;

Being excessively sarcastic and literal aren't the best ways to go about getting an explanation. People are going to take it as you trying to go on the offensive when you make sure to tack on passive-aggressive comments like this. If you want a rule explained, simply ask.

Since it's placed under "Spamming or Trolling" in the Boards Universal Rules, it very likely refers to posts which disingenuously attempt to engage people - for example, "change my mind"-style posts - as well as posts specifically made to stir up reactions and controversy.

As for falsifying content, while I'm not 100% sure what that would mean, I figure it means creating a story, spinning a yarn, or otherwise just bullshitting people to get people - whether curious or otherwise - to look at your post. The Moderation team would probably be able to clarify it better, but that's my take on it, so do take that with a grain of salt.

Posts prompting actual, legitimate discussion are not affected by this rule.

"Very likely" This doesn't sound too ensuring.

Also "posts specifically made to stir up". Now what stirs someone up is extremely subjective. What if i'm stirred up from stuff, that says, that Pyke is OP, or should be nerfed, because i like it. Should i report every thread about those?

We will see, if the mods. can give an answer, that change the can't apply on everything part. Right now your explanation still makes it applicable on everything.

"Your disagreement with me stirs me up!"

Umbral RegentSep 5, 20191 votes

"Very likely" This doesn't sound too ensuring.

It is the interpretation of the rules as I understand it. I could certainly be wrong (as can sometimes be the case with broad-strokes rules), but I'm fairly confident in my reading of it.

Also "posts specifically made to stir up". Now what stirs someone up is extremely subjective. What if i'm stirred up from stuff, that says, that Pyke is OP, or should be nerfed, because i like it. Should i report every thread about those?

What I mean is posts obviously designed to cause strife. Like saying "People who like [insert subject here] are wrong and should feel bad", etc. - posts written specifically to get any group of people agitated and jumping to defend whatever it is you're agitating them about.

If someone's calling for Pyke nerfs, you can report them, but if they're not otherwise breaking the rules, it's not going to matter. Calling for nerfs or pointing out that a Champion is overpowered isn't against the rules, as long as there's a reasonable degree of effort put into the post.

We will see, if the mods. can give an answer, that change the can't apply on everything part. Right now your explanation still makes it applicable on everything.

When you try to be as extremely literal as you can about it, sure. But you're just not looking through the right lens.

MagicFlyingLlamaSep 4, 20191 votes

Semantics dont tend to hold up well unless it is in federal court.

The KombinatorSep 4, 20191 votes

Well making a rule, that conversations are against a rule on a forum which was designed for conversations is just silly. Though i found such rules on other forums too. Rules that apply to every single post, and thread, if i want it to be, because they are 100% subjective.