Are darius and garen really opposites?

ILoveTiramisu·Apr 14, 2014·1 votes·764 views

What's the problem? The problem is that the answer is yes.

I mean that it is not possible in the match ups Darius against Garen is not equal if they are rivals. The problem is that Darius is created to destroy his enemy and Garen to resist, Garen cannot resist against him. The real problem with Garen is passive I think. Wait 9 seconds to recover health as a percentage of health and if you take damage you cancel. We have all learned to counter garen with poke. I always thought who Garen should survive again all. I always thought that his passive should be like Veigar passive, but for health regen.

I m not a Garen player, I play him a bit but I stop to play him because he is a toplane who dont have CC, sustain, poke or mobility. Most important stats of a toplaner.

I don't really care if someone think who garen is good or dont. But after one year I play this game, I'm sure garen is not a toplaner.

9 Comments

Angry MonsterApr 14, 20142 votes

Garen has mobility and slow breaking ability and his soft cc silence.

In theory he has more than Shyvana

How is one a top and not the other?

ILoveTiramisuApr 15, 20141 votes

Shyvana: E poke, R mobility, no sustain, shyvana have 2 importants stats.

In Lux We BelievApr 15, 20141 votes

Shyvana's E is useless if you don't procc it with your Q or basic attack which will be almost impossible if you are against someone that has experience vs Shyvana and that's due to the fact that shyvana doesn't have an second ranged ability to procc her E.

In Lux We BelievApr 14, 20142 votes

I can't believe what i just read, ''no mobility, no sustain and no poke srsly haha'' ;O.

ILoveTiramisuApr 15, 20141 votes

I believe. Garen's mobility is very low for an engage, but also darius has no really mobility. Darius has poke by Q.

In Lux We BelievApr 15, 20141 votes

You can always run MS quints if you want more mobility on a champion like garen or darius etc, also garen's Q which silences the enemy is actually really underrated but it's actually really strong believe me, and that's mostly because there aren't much experienced garen players.

Remlap1223Apr 15, 20141 votes

NO! We do not need another Dr. Mundo passive. Garen needs to get buffed so that he can do better in teamfights, but buffing his passive is not the way to do it. Making his E do more damage, not be slowed, and have it be cancelled out by stun/suppress is a good idea to do that. Perhaps double the cooldown of his Q, but reduce it by 3/4 or something if he doesn't use it to break free of a slow (similar to how Riot handled Lee Sin's W). Again don't take me down to downvote city, these are just ideas.

In Lux We BelievApr 15, 20141 votes

Those are some good ideas friend, i would've up-voted you if i wasn't 1 lvl on NA ;P but if you or any1 else on this thread that reads this and wanna play garen to his optimal potential just go full tank with black cleaver and you will see why garen is one of the best DPS tanks in the game Garen .

Remlap1223Apr 15, 20141 votes

Garen's a good choice for me when I just want to have a brainless game. He's not quite the faceroll on Yi's scale, but he's still pretty easy, and therefore limited. I'll take with a full tank build with an item 3005 instead. Gangplank is another champ that needs a buff similar to Garen's (he's getting a full kit rework by the looks of it), but even without the buff, Gangplank is a much better duelist and teamfighter than Garen is.