Is no one gonna talk about Sion Q hitbox?

Black Pöwer·3/4/2018, 12:03:34 PM·12 votes·3,476 views

It's at least half a Teemo bigger than its hitbox indicates and I think that's pretty much game breaking, I was just in the practice tool testing this out my self and I was planning to upload a recording but apparently practice tool doesn't save to game history. I saw some older threads stating that it could be due to an issue with the angle that you're looking at his Q but I tested this from several different angles and it's the exact same length with each test. These threads are going back months if not a whole year and all that's getting fixed is his E due to new runes? The hit box indicator needs to be updated or the ability just fixed.

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Friendly Ram3/4/2018, 1:56:21 PM8 votes

I always just assumed it was a character model/character hitbox mismatch.

hhaavviikk3/4/2018, 2:02:19 PM7 votes

I feel like his Q hitbox is just random, same with cho`gath Q, sometimes you go ''how the hell did that hit me'' and sometimes you go''...wait it didn't hit me? how''

Lauchmelder3/4/2018, 12:55:14 PM4 votes

I think Riot should look into abilities that are way more blatant than Decimating Smash. MAINLY looking at Nautilus Q here.

Pierce The Veal3/4/2018, 12:30:08 PM3 votes

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It's at least half a Teemo bigger than its hitbox indicates and I think that's pretty much game breaking, I was just in the practice tool testing this out my self and I was planning to upload a recording but apparently practice tool doesn't save to game history. I saw some older threads stating that it could be due to an issue with the angle that you're looking at his Q but I tested this from several different angles and it's the exact same length with each test. These threads are going back months if not a whole year and all that's getting fixed is his E due to new runes? The hit box indicator needs to be updated or the ability just fixed.

Yeah I’ve noticed this as well. I tried standing just outside his indicator on various champs and I end up getting hit anyway. His actual range definitely is larger than the indicator/hitbox.

Leetri3/4/2018, 8:44:34 PM1 votes

I've seen a Rioter comment on it, they know it exists and it should be fixed for the next patch I believe.

Cavesloth3/4/2018, 9:34:14 PM1 votes

Donno if its exclusive to the Star Guardian skin but Lux's Q has wayyyyy bigger hitbox than it appears.

Bütthound3/4/2018, 11:21:08 PM1 votes

Nah the hitbox is fine, I tested with basic Sion and mecha and the hitbox was perfectly fine for a 3D hitbox game. Mecha's is closer to the actual hitbox size while basic Sion's is wayyy more stylized, which if anything should be updated but imo its not too big of a deal.

also theres a little thing were Sion can move a bit forward after starting up Q if he just casted E , not sure if that changes the hitbox tho.

Vectros3/4/2018, 11:40:47 PM1 votes

Sion is among my most played champs, so I'm biased against nerfs against him. That being said, it definitely tends to hit larger than shown. I still think there are bigger issues out there, but it is a thing.

Somebody Love Me3/5/2018, 3:34:00 AM1 votes

Honestly I've been saying this for a while, but over time I just got used to it. Sometime's it's really fucking annoying, but yeah they should fix that. You can't make a champ telegraph the shit out of an ability, clearly define the hitbox, only for it to be a false hitbox.

Sand lord3/5/2018, 5:06:39 AM1 votes

Sion's Q hitbox increases the longer he charges it. You would need the visual indicator to dynamically change size when being charged.

ArvDaBeast3/5/2018, 5:11:38 AM1 votes

Move to the side

WubbaLubbaDubDab3/5/2018, 5:52:30 AM1 votes

Idk why noone talks about him in the first place.I have a friend who is a sion main and he has a weird ass build(banner of command zz rot)and he is full tank with no DMG items and he deals sooooooo much like wtf riot?is he a tank or a burst he can't have both

YokoNomi3/4/2018, 12:14:17 PM1 votes

Have you tried custom games, rather than practice? There's a little more to setting it up, but I think the history for those are saved. Unless it isn't the case anymore. If nothing else, could try using OBS to record it, unless they changed their business practice, the basic model should be free to use for recording.

HOTDOG4LOL3/11/2018, 3:49:00 AM1 votes

I agree, I can stand next to it as well, it will pop me up, sometimes when I am standing directly beside sion.

Ahri Baka3/4/2018, 12:46:33 PM1 votes

I don't think I understand you but yeah Sion Q actually hits you even if you are a but out of range , but I never though of it as a bug , this happens only when Sion Q is fully charged so I thought it's something related to that

Hethalean3/4/2018, 1:50:20 PM1 votes

How about when he slips into bush, and you follow him. If he is charging Q, it gives you the wrong indicator for where it'll hit... or it'll give you two.

LordGeovanni3/4/2018, 7:24:59 PM1 votes

As some one spaming sion and who used to get screwed when he was popular i agree.