WW ult not cancled by fiora?

AgeOfTheMage··2 votes·349 views

I was in a game recently as fiora and at multiple points in the game I was fighting WW. I kept trying to parry his ult (it's super hard) the one time i manage to do it, i aimed my parry at ww as he ulted, it blocked it, and i hit him with the stun.. yet it still did all 6 hits to me. Is it because the hits count as AA or is this really a bug?

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Glowshtick1 votes

Were you still suppressed when you parried it, or could you move? I wanted to mention even if you cleanse or qss (quick silver sash, it's an item of the same concept as cleanse that doublelift didn't buy against malzahar roaming top in groups this year) his ult, warwick still does damage from the ult anyway. Parrying it simply removes his supress disability. It should only stop the disable, but this is also really strange because fiora's parry should make her immune to spell damage. Were you hit during the animation for the parry or just afterward?

I don't know if the damage comes from point and click or being near warwick after negating the disable, but I'm almost completely sure it's one of these two things. Fortunately, Riot has been looking at giving players a chance to react to certain plays and has been planning in the assassin's update to slow a lot of abilities down. Warwick's ult is 1 frame before he jumps on you, and with this agenda in mind, I'm pretty certain they'll keep a close eye on this ability soon even if Riot doesn't notice you. Warwick IS due for a rework and has been announced by Riot that this rework will go through. Hopefully, when they rework warwick this season, it'll fix this issue too.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

the parry was activated not even a second before he ulted( i was gonna block another cc, but ww ulted me before it hit me) I took damage after the parry but I wasn't suppressed, even though i moved away i still took the last few hits of his ult. mny parry didn't stun him for some reason though. and thanks for the help! but yeah, AA's meele or ranged are 100% un-dodgeable without abilities, even if they hit you with a meele attack and you dashed away, it still hits. (like monsters in the jungle monsters)

Glowshtick1 votes

It's possible that warwick was actually stunned, but since he already activated his ult, the stun would have done nothing.

This is because stuns do not disrupt abilities. So say me being an Elise player, I use my Human Form e cacoon to try to stun a thresh during one of my ganks. If he uses his Q to start a hook animation before my stun lands, even a second right before the opposing Thresh's ability is activated, my stun will not disrupt the hook, making my stun almost useless, because Thresh was locked in the animation anyway.

The same concept applies to warwick ult. His ult cannot be and was not disrupted by your parry; the animation for his ult is much longer than the duration of your parry stun, and the Warwick ult was activated before you could even stun him with any ideal timing. Ergo, if you stunned him, your stun from the parry would have been mitigated.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

mmh, thanks for the help! Would a blind prevent ww's ult from doing any damage since it's pretty much strong AA's?

DarkRitual1 votes

No, the ult does damage ticks and applies on-hit effects. So not actually basic attacks.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

so kinda like ezreals q? yeah, as for on hit effects, he had a titanic hydra, my team got hit by 6(i think that's the number of times he hits) waves of damage.

DarkRitual1 votes

Yup. A few other things also apply on-hits effects like that as well. That's why things like Wit's End and Blade of the Ruined King are core on WW, and Sheen on Ezreal (Using his Q brings up Spellblade, then the Q hitting applies the Spellblade proc since it's a single use on-hit effect).

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

that's pretty smart, but I feel like if something stops the suppression part(not much, but things such as spell shields etc) it should stop his ult entirely, maybe. I'm not sure this would be good for him, but there aren't many champs with spell shields and such.

DarkRitual1 votes

Ww ult is canceled by stuns or displacements. This sounds like it may be a bug. Would need to test and reproduce to confirm.

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