Ezreal's Q does not apply Deathfire's Torch Mat

PotatoMine··2 votes·1,401 views

Rather simple, but also very important. To test it just play Ezreal with Deathfire's Torch and hit someone and it does not apply it.

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Zombiemaster2 votes

This is intended. Ezreal's Q applies on hit effects, and because of this it does not apply spell effects, and since Deathfire Touch is a spell effect, it will not be applied by Ezreal's Q.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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This is intended. Ezreal's Q applies on hit effects, and because of this it does not apply spell effects, and since Deathfire Touch is a spell effect, it will not be applied by Ezreal's Q.

^^This.

Intended functionality, even if it seems a little odd. Riot could use a clean-up of tooltips to differentiate between Spells and Empowered Attacks for the purposes of item and mastery interactions.

DrCyanide2 votes

It's particularly confusing if you bring in the other tooltips in the game.

Sivir 's Spell Shield says it blocks enemy spells, and it blocks Ezreal's Q. Deathfire Touch says it works off of damaging spells. If Sivir blocks Ezreal's Q, then it must be a spell. It does damage, so it should be a damaging spell.

Riot really needs to clean up their tooltips around spells-but-not-spells, particularly Ezreal's Q.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}Riot really needs to clean up their tooltips around spells-but-not-spells, particularly Ezreal's Q.

Lesser known instances are MF'S Double Up, Irelia's Bladesurge, Yasuo's Steel Tempest, and Parrrley. So it's not just Ezreal. On the flip side we have weird things like several auto-attack resets that actually work with spell effects instead of on-hit effects.

PotatoMine1 votes

{quoted}

This is intended. Ezreal's Q applies on hit effects, and because of this it does not apply spell effects, and since Deathfire Touch is a spell effect, it will not be applied by Ezreal's Q.

The tool tip says damaging spell, not spell damage, so this is a bug.

Zombiemaster1 votes

The tool tip for Rylai's Crystal Scepter says damaging spells and abilities, and the tool tip for Luden's Echo says the next spell hit, but it is intended by Riot that Ezreal's Q does not proc the passives of these items. The fact of the matter is the effect of Deathfire Touch is a spell effect, and abilities that proc on hit effects, like Ezreal's Q, will not proc spell effects.

I know that it's confusing, and I agree with the others in that Riot should definitely add more clarity to this whole issue of spells-but-not-spells.

PotatoMine1 votes

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The tool tip for Rylai's Crystal Scepter says damaging spells and abilities, and the tool tip for Luden's Echo says the next spell hit, but it is intended by Riot that Ezreal's Q does not proc the passives of these items. The fact of the matter is the effect of Deathfire Touch is a spell effect, and abilities that proc on hit effects, like Ezreal's Q, will not proc spell effects.

I know that it's confusing, and I agree with the others in that Riot should definitely add more clarity to this whole issue of spells-but-not-spells.

Good point on Rylai's :/

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