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Veigar's Cage didn't hold Shyvana

DrCyanide··2 votes·1,519 views
http://www.replay.gg/?r=NA1&id=1960358629&key=fhKd%2BX2XNkX8EV%2FF1hK1ccXr%2FSac1LT3

The link is to the replay of the game. The event happened at 19:38.

I got my cage up around Shyvana, she ulted out of it, being stunned as she left. This is the old behavior of the cage. She should have been stopped.

On closer review, it looks like she triggered her ult right as the cage went up on the far wall. She got the stun particles instantly, clearly indicating that the wall was up (the only other ally champion nearby was Vlad, who lacks a stun). Shyv's ult proceeded to go through the center of the cage, and through the opposite wall, standing stunned on the opposite side afterwards.

Pre-cage: https://i.imgur.com/9DTsv0v.png

Cage Up (note Shyv has stun particals): https://i.imgur.com/uxnC4P9.png

Dragon Form (still has stun particals): https://i.imgur.com/7a17NIx.png

Dragon Form mid cage: https://i.imgur.com/40rHdzL.png

Dragon Form far edge of cage: https://i.imgur.com/RpZtNxE.png

Dragon Form out of cage: https://i.imgur.com/Li7MV9g.png

5 Comments

AsphodelNext2 votes

The stun is only once per cage, so the knockdown probably is too. What I would guess happened is this:

  1. You put the cage down
  2. Shyv hits R and starts her animation
  3. Your cage comes up, stunning Shyv. If she was in the middle of her dash, she would be knocked down, but she's still getting ready to jump.
  4. Shyv finishes her leap animation and starts to jump
  5. Shyv hits the second wall, but since she already got stunned by the first wall, it has no effect
  6. Shyv finishes her leap outside the cage

Only issue with this is why stun doesn't interrupt the R animation and prevent the jump. Maybe it's like a Riven self cancel: if Riven starts her windup right as she gets stunned, she'll finish her Q during the stun duration.

DrCyanide1 votes

I bet you're exactly right. Wonder if we'll see a fix for this or if it will remain a fluke occurrence bug.

DrCyanide1 votes

Has anyone else seen similar behavior on the cage, or was this a weirdly specific interaction between Shyvana and Veigar?

Parasom1 votes

this isn't a bug. shyvanas ult throws her a certain range, the stun isnt gonna stop her dead in her tracks. she was stunned during the duration of her ult and slightly after. stuns dont cancel shyvanas movement mid-air

DrCyanide1 votes

Stuns normally do not stop dashes, but they modified Veigar's cage specifically to be the exception to that rule.

I know I've stopped Shyvanas in the past who ulted in the middle of the cage going outward. The question is how she was able to dash through the second wall, which should have stopped her.

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