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[Gameplay] Akali's ultimate dash speed reduced since v5.9

Hexten··24 votes·2,427 views

In Patch v5.9, the introduction of the strike-through on her ultimate reduced the missile speed of the dash. NOTE: These videos are examples from YouTube to show the dash speed reduction.

Akali's Ultimate Missile Speed Post-patch v5.2 - Pre-patch v5.9: https://youtu.be/ZQUFpKEthaU?t=3m46s

Akali's Ultimate Missile Speed Post-patch v5.9: https://youtu.be/uY8npzzDR18?t=27m12s

Old Akali videos on the PBE (2013) There was an ammo system bug in PBE 2013 where ammo charges were unlimited. This is useful to show that the dash speed did get reduced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAkEgaqcw3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqj09iPy6JY

A challenger player that plays Akali has mentioned this as well: https://youtu.be/uFDt1JVO9KU?t=15m16s

As shown in the first video, the missile speed reduction is clearly obvious:

  • Pre-patch v5.9 the dash speed is pretty much instant.

  • Whereas post-patch v5.9 Akali can be seen taking a noticeably longer time gliding through the air when she is dashing.

A slower dash locks out player input during flight since the time it takes to complete the dash animation has been extended due to the strike-through. This indirectly nerfs the time it takes for the damage to be applied to the target and spellvamp received from the applied damage. Therefore it made her more clunkier to play, which she doesn't need since her v5.2 nerfs.

The simple solution to this is to fix the missile speed of Shadow Dance so that it matches the old animation speed pre-patch v5.9.

TLDR: The introduction of the strike-through (Post-patch v5.9) on her ultimate should not reduce the missile speed.

11 Comments

SourCustard6 votes

I rather that they just remove the strike through, it was a very much unneeded nerf to Akali.

If Rito thought that this change was to help her, well it didn't, it actually nerfed her.

The reason why it nerfed her is because most of her damage is on her ultimate so therefore if you have to use your ult near melee range-ish not (from max tipping point), it pushes you out of AA range even after the 5.10 "fix" and thats only if the target is marked, but sometimes you need to ult on them even though no mark is on it so you just get flunged past them at 200 range.

Please can some red or rioter remove this change instead, it hurts Akali way more than it helps her. If she needed help into procing mark make her AA complete faster like what you did to KATARINA. I don't know why u won't do this change. It really just shows you just hate the champ and just trying to make her as worse possible than she already is from 5.2.

youngjake931 votes

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I rather that they just remove the strike through, it was a very much unneeded nerf to Akali.

If Rito thought that this change was to help her, well it didn't, it actually nerfed her.

The reason why it nerfed her is because most of her damage is on her ultimate so therefore if you have to use your ult near melee range-ish not (from max tipping point), it pushes you out of AA range even after the 5.10 "fix" and thats only if the target is marked, but sometimes you need to ult on them even though no mark is on it so you just get flunged past them at 200 range.

Please can some red or rioter remove this change instead, it hurts Akali way more than it helps her. If she needed help into procing mark make her AA complete faster like what you did to KATARINA. I don't know why u won't do this change. It really just shows you just hate the champ and just trying to make her as worse possible than she already is from 5.2.

The original change wasn't to help her, it was a nerf on purpose. They wanted to decrease the amount of range Akali could zone with her ult to give her counterplay, but they wanted to keep her ability to chase effectively with triple dash. So they made the strike through to keep the same distance traveled in terms of chasing, but lowering the distance required to stay away from her and be safe.

It kinda was needed because you literally couldn't do anything against a fed Akali. She could engage from like double Flash's range

SourCustard1 votes

Sigh, reading is so hard.

My post is not talking about the nerf that reduced her ult range from 800 to 700 in patch v5.2. That was needed I agree.

What I am talking about in my post is the STRIKE-THROUGH that they added in v5.9, that change screws her over more then it helps her. If Riot thought it helped her it didn't - not in the long run.

The post just asks to remove that change completely from v5.9 and instead make Akali's AA more cleaner.

Monotachi5 votes

The strikethrough is causing the dash time completion to be longer than normal. In 5.9, the strikethrough used to be 150-250, which made it longer than what it is on live. In Patch 5.10, they reduced it to 100-200, which is why on live, it's a little bit faster but still slower than without strikethrough.

The fix is quite easy, as you have pointed out - increase the missile speed when Akali is dashing through the air to match the old dash in order to compensate for the distance added due to the strikethrough.

Nuguu3 votes

What a very detailed post. The dash speed reduction is so obvious after viewing the videos. The distance covered due to the strikethrough is not actually that great then since it takes longer for her to reach the end point, meaning the target would of ran away from any sort of distance gained. That's probably why the change to her ult didn't help her as much as it should in 5.9.

For Carthage2 votes

Still fighting this fight, I see.

https://memecrunch.com/image/513d33d9afa96f7c7c00004f.jpg?w=400

Learning moment1 votes

Just blind picked akali and was laned against a leblanc.... it was not a fun time #ff@20. It wouldnt be that bad if they reverted the E nerf. leblanc's invis passive made it so i could never auto proct my Q for the kill.

THEJJSLAY1 votes

you do not know how to play akali i guess thats one of the easier lanes

Hexten1 votes

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you do not know how to play akali i guess thats one of the easier lanes

Given the about of mobility and the stealth that she has, it makes AAing her very difficult, nonetheless.

Great Ozymandius1 votes

Well, Akali's kit is broken so they want her to stay nerfed. However, preseason we may see a resurgence of akali if adc's become more popular and in more lanes and if tanks are temporarily banished from the game. So despite her extreme weakness, she might actually find herself in a good spot in a few weeks (before they nerf her some more).

THEJJSLAY1 votes

Nah they killed her with the new ec heal cut on every auto sadly :/

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