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Please dont remove / change thornmail

Defacyde·12/19/2019, 5:16:09 PM·5 votes·1,282 views
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First sorry for the bad english and grammar I beg you riot to didnt change the thornmail, i used it since the beginin of set 2 on MOST of my warden champ depending on how's going the game. Not only on braum, i didnt even build thornmail on him despite what the GUY IN CHARGE of this change has say I mostly put it on nasus or other guest and it work as well, saying this item only fit Braum is à clear lack of understanding the game mechanics and it's really funny coming from a "game designer" Without this item warden is only gonna be à filler strat instead of a real strat build around 6 warden. I manage to get into diamond despite all these people playing wood druid with renekton before nerf, even before it when there was plenty of olaf and still tons of it. I was one of the rare player that mainly focus around warden since beginin of set 2 and now you gonna made it totaly useless?

Half of my dps on each game come from thornmail, the next item addem wouldnt even come close to half of this damage.

I beg you riot one last time, please dont remove the small fun factor some people have with these item. I was playing summoner rift for years and after all the change and rework on some of my beloved old champion i couldnt stand it anymore as the removal of other item like atma or force of nature to name just a few of them.

Thornmail and warden was my "love" in this tft, and i really think about stoping it like i stop the summoner rift after all these year. That's only the second set and it already start to upset me really hard, i mean there isnt thing more important to focus on ? What's the point of killing our pleasure?

11 Comments

Pika31012/19/2019, 5:28:27 PM2 votes

From what I'm understanding, Thornmail isn't being either removed or "changed." Firstly, renaming it to "Bramble Vest" is purely cosmetic in both name & picture. The reason for that is point 2: they're COMBINING Thornmail with the (super gutted) Phantom Dancer. "Bramble Vest"'s purpose is to both reflect damage & answer their DESIGN FAILURE of allowing Assassins to 1-shot tanks. Point 3: the damage reflection isn't being changed, only the specific way in which it's being reflected is being altered.

If I remember what I read correctly, the new reflection is a flat amount (as opposed to the mitigated amount) which does AoE based on the wearer's level. This is actually an improvement for anybody not named "Braum" when you consider: Desert exists, which shreds 90% armor essentially making the mitigated damage almost zero; Last Whisper will shred 90% armor, essentially making mitigated damage almost zero; and the new reflection is AoE damage.

doudiiiiiiii12/23/2019, 1:15:07 PM2 votes

I really hope Riot read this.

Kjraider112/24/2019, 5:57:55 PM1 votes

Remove it.

It's so cheese and makes wardens, especially Braum, broken. They need to remove item stacking as well... You either deny the "troll" (the nicest way to put it) who wants to 2 stack his braum with chain vests and all of your units 2 shot themselves is just as dumb as assassins 1/2 shot tanks. You can't even roll oceans/mages to counter it because NEWS FLASH : EVERYONE AUTO ATTACKS. I love seeing my Brand, Syndra, Thresh, and Nautalis die in 2 autos and it's all to 2 thornmail 2/3* braum. There are better ways to make wardens viable. This item is toxic and has literally no counter right now, other than running it yourself or denying items, which in turn screws over your mid/late game.

I'd be OK keeping the item if they at least removed buff stacking of the same item, make them all unique, and MELEE ONLY.