why is her stun 3 seconds?

The Fat God·Dec 3, 2019·20 votes·11,855 views

perma stuns. 3 seconds. in a fucking line. abuse. maybe do some rebalancing and update the fucking game.

35 Comments

MordridtheBlackDec 3, 201910 votes

see that would be smart

they don't care about smart

xNh8kX3ymgDec 3, 20195 votes

Position better

Heroboy10Dec 3, 201911 votes

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Position better

You don't know what is you next opponent.

Nea104Dec 3, 20192 votes

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You don't know what is you next opponent.

Indeed, and still they called it "tactics" :D

IllabetheDec 4, 20193 votes

You can compile an idea based on trying to position vs 4-5 generally and "win the averages." Furthermore, you can still assess their comps, and elemental nodes tend to give you a general idea how people are going to play anyways by where they are positioned.

The Fat GodDec 3, 201914 votes

assassin. jumps behind. jumps to the side. ults. 3 people stun. from behind. 3 people stun. position better doesnt work.

crippler38Dec 3, 20192 votes

What about the classic ball in the corner so the assassin can't jump on the backline?

The Fat GodDec 3, 20198 votes

that doesnt work anymore, atleast for me. all my units take a single step foward and shes stunning the ones i want to protect anyways.

TerozuDec 3, 20193 votes

dude, just place a single tank far away from everyone else, she will focus the tank, they will tank, all will be well.

LoLsucksTFTisOKDec 3, 20195 votes

That brutally fucks you against mages? Clumping yourself up is just begging to watch a Syndra nuke you with a double cast.

Same with the less distance between targets the faster the bounces, the faster you die.

IllabetheDec 4, 20191 votes

tbh I don't even need a double cast on Syndra. 1890 hits :)

Everyday LegendsDec 3, 20192 votes

Build Quicksilver.

Heroboy10Dec 3, 20194 votes

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Build Quicksilver.

So we have to get a specific item to put on one carry to combat a specific unit belonged to one opponent ? Wow!

MogarlDec 3, 20191 votes

I've had my jewled gauntlet carries hard countered by phantom dancer. It's not that unreasonable.

Trist mid opopDec 3, 20191 votes

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So we have to get a specific item to put on one carry to combat a specific unit belonged to one opponent ? Wow!

Idk if u are joking or being serious right now. If Qiyana is the only champ of all players that has cc, go giants belt.

Heroboy10Dec 6, 20192 votes

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Idk if u are joking or being serious right now. If Qiyana is the only champ of all players that has cc, go giants belt.

I'm not joking. There is no shop to buy what item you want. You got the items from RNG and pro players recomand to combine them fast and put on units or you will start to lose HP. You always want the best items for you carries.

I doubt you "build" something to combat a specific opponent unless its very late game when your carries/tanks already has full items and you have luck to get the anti-unit item from carusel. Nobody do this.

The idea "look at you opponent to combat him" is nice, but this is only in book. It's a RNG game not a strategic one.

True GarenDec 6, 20191 votes

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I'm not joking. There is no shop to buy what item you want. You got the items from RNG and pro players recomand to combine them fast and put on units or you will start to lose HP. You always want the best items for you carries.

I doubt you "build" something to combat a specific opponent unless its very late game when your carries/tanks already has full items and you have luck to get the anti-unit item from carusel. Nobody do this.

The idea "look at you opponent to combat him" is nice, but this is only in book. It's a RNG game not a strategic one.

I do build to combat specific vulnerabilities in my comp, that I KNOW will be there come lategame. I'm worried about Olaf. I'm worried about a Gold Veigar. Usually not too concerned about Qiyana, but sometimes do get abused by one...

There aren't THAT many comps and builds. A few reliably show up in late game.

AmazingJubJubDec 7, 20191 votes

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So we have to get a specific item to put on one carry to combat a specific unit belonged to one opponent ? Wow!

Yes. That's where some of your "tactics" come into play. We build anti healing because of possible units, Mundo, Olaf and comps like Light exist. Phantom dancer etc. Yes those items are good if not ok in most/all situations. However niche items are good for niche things.

ZtokaDec 3, 20192 votes

Not as bad as pyke imo.. Pyke w/ 2 spears and another item would massively stun...

RyzeReworkDec 3, 20191 votes

Lol I built a 3 star full ap malphite and did the same thing. The games about making a sick ass combo

Yordle XayahDec 3, 20191 votes

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Beacon AcademyDec 3, 20194 votes

This is the TFT section.

Beacon AcademyDec 3, 20191 votes

I usually place my carry in the center back with tanks on the far sides, both with one space from the walls.

The Assassins generally jump to those side units and buy time for my carry to kill shit

Plus I usually have a Janna and Nami next to my carry for good measure.

Beacon AcademyDec 3, 20192 votes

i.e.

https://imgur.com/20DUVEm

IllabetheDec 4, 20191 votes

Wth is that comp though?

Beacon AcademyDec 5, 20191 votes

You ever had a double seraphs Ezreal before?

IllabetheDec 5, 20191 votes

far better comps than relying on one single target champion to do everything.

Jeweled Gauntlet + IE Syndra generates mana and kills FAR quicker than Ezreal.

Brand almost gaurantees the kill on 5 out of 9.

LeBlanc + IE + Gauntlet+ Runaan's kills faster than Ezreal with 2 Seraph.

Ezreal is not Kha Zix with 2 Seraphs.

Beacon AcademyDec 6, 20191 votes

I'm not guaranteed to get any of those, but I hear you

However... I do have an issue with that Syndra statement.

How does she generate mana faster than instantaneously?

IllabetheDec 6, 20191 votes

It doesn't have to be instant. Her skill hits up to 7 units at once, and with 2 items crits for 1890. If on Mage cast, it double taps and literally erases 2/3 of a team. With 2 Seraphs, your Ez only does about 500 damage at best with skill unless he has a Jeweled Gauntlet last, which would only double it, since there's no room for Assassin or IE.) In other words, he may instant cast, but it takes about 15 instant casts to do what Syndra can do in 1 skill.

P.S. I just had an insane Kha Zix game with a item 3031 item 3085 item 3040 on him.

By the time he was 3 Star, he was doing 1760 crits every time he leaped and just destroyed entire teams, including 3 star full Predator with the right items.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/6te7IMh.png[/img]

I was generally item deprived this game, btw.

ToolmakerDec 4, 20191 votes

When I'm playing Qiyana, I notice that yes, she can definitely mess up your units dreams. But from what I have seen, she doesn't have as much effectiveness usually if the opponent positions a ranged unit in the corner as a sacrifice, and has some other melee units who walk up, avoiding a 2+ man stun, and if their other units kill your frontline, that give your other backline units the opportunity to kill qiyana while she is walking towards them.

But generally, yes, her stun is op. The trade off is that her basic attacks are lackluster.

strelizia jaxDec 5, 20191 votes

naut also has a stupidly long stun

Cloud SkylarDec 5, 20191 votes

You clearly never seen a 3 star vlad with item 3025 item 3046 item 1057 solowing 7 champs by himself.

KelvynnDec 5, 20191 votes

Assassins (except Zed, but he's special and very rare) are too easily countered by item 3046 This one item makes everything they do pointless, since they have such a high crit chance. Qiyana included. Maybe when it gets nerfed to something like "50% chance to dodge crits" then we can talk about the things the assassins can do, if they can land a hit.