Talk About "Elemental Class" Golem

Sëtíer·7/6/2019, 8:47:39 PM·4 votes·5,727 views

Yes. I understand you need 3 of only 4 possible champions to create the Elementalist class bonus, and One of them is a Rare and another uncommon. BUT if you do get this... it is a GUARANTEE win. The "golem" that is summoned has what like 10k+ health? Its literally like a 4 star champion if there was one! Its super tanky, does tons of damage as if it had 3 full items, and doesnt count against you as far as a 'character' so you pretty much could have a 5v4 and the one extra golem is a mega insta-win..

Point is, @Riot #Riot Please Nerf the Golem!!!!

15 Comments

Blåsigt7/7/2019, 3:06:26 AM4 votes

My issue with golem is not his damage output, but his health. Basically, the entire teams focuses him, which takes a good amount of time, instead of targeting the heavy-hitting damage dealers. Effectively, he distracts the dumb ai from killing higher the rest enemies

Damoklese7/6/2019, 9:42:37 PM3 votes

I feel like a lot of the people complaining about the golem have never actually spent much time building elementalist.

Its a nice combo.. if you can build it. But it isnt exactly an easy thing to build, or one that easily fits into other builds. The only times ive dominated with elementals is when I combined them with another synergy like Blademaster or glacial, and was also lucky enough to find some spatulas so that I could make one or more of my elementalists into a blademaster/glacial as well.

Essentially what im saying is that the golem is great.. elemental is great.. but to say either is overpowered is, imo, ignorant. I find well equipped dravens and aurelions to be stronger, or all yordle teams, or all noble teams, or all assassin teams. A lot of things are just as strong or stronger than elementalists.

Ratpie7/6/2019, 8:49:16 PM2 votes

I have beat a lot of teams with the Golem, it is very doable, but I do agree it is a bit strong for a 3 team combo.

AuronRoo7/6/2019, 10:59:28 PM2 votes

It dont think its that big of a deal when one of the 2 needed is tier 4 and 5 so you dont see them until later in the game and even less likely to see the Brand or Anivia make it to 2 star. Unless you get it with Glacial I find dealing with the Elemental to be easy enough.

Partholonian7/6/2019, 10:47:14 PM1 votes

I've beaten elementalist comps before. Keep in mind they're getting that instead of another family bonus like Sorcerer or Blademaster.

And I haven't seen the golem do tons of damage, especially considering you can't put items on it.

Do you think Elementalists win more games than other classes? Hopefully Riot is keeping track of that sort of thing...

EyesOfTheFox7/7/2019, 11:18:18 AM1 votes

Yeah I was destroying everyone and it came down to me and the last dude and he had less than 10 hp and I had at least 25-30. Last three fights he summons the fucking golem and my ENTIRE TEAM including assassins jump on this fucking thing that doesn't take any damage and he just wipes me after I handily led that whole game. There was no strategy in his play outside of "let me get this golem". It's fucking bullshit and needs to be nerfed hard. It's got WAY too much HP. 5 Brawlers (lvl 3 and lvl 2) 2 assasins (lvl 2 and lvl 3), and this thing takes no damage, it's health barely disappears... it just doesn't feel like the person actually did anything to be rewarded with an instant win card. Not to mention it just draws aggro from your whole team, i even tried different arrangements. His team was full of lvl 2's and 1's, he had no lvl 3 champions. This is the only thing in this game that I find absolutely busted beyond belief, and it's a lot easier to get than people think.

TrenixPL7/7/2019, 1:53:52 AM1 votes

I have never, nor have I ever seen a golem win a game before, or even do exceptionally well. I seriously thought you were going to ask for a buff. They attack so slow and don't really do much damage whatsoever. Also there are only three stars for a champions, so that doesn't even make sense. Unless you're lucky, you're probably gonna have a gimped champ like Lissandra to even obtain that passive. She's probably as bad as mort, if not worse.

If the player has Anivia, Brand, and Kennen, then you were probably going to most likely lose regardless if they had a golem or not.

zepdrix7/6/2019, 8:58:11 PM1 votes

Golem definitely needs a nerf. A bit too strong.

NTrumpWeTrust7/7/2019, 3:41:23 AM1 votes

lmao ok

CurS1VE7/7/2019, 4:11:44 AM1 votes

hmm this is tricky because Elementalist are really hit and miss and they generally need specific things to actually be a threat; It's not that they are bad just that it takes a lot more effort to make this work as well as RNG in your favor as well as a lot of other things like what your opponents are running.

Personally I do run it occasionally because I run Demons often and I like the Synergy between spellcasters. I have won games after getting Golem for sure but tbh I felt like I probably would've won because of how Demons function overall, and also I had Brand with Morello's and a Kennen wit morellos and with Demon trait from spatula.

That's like best case scenario to me, a lot of things had to happen for that to work and honestly the elementals were just the icing cause I was already winning with a Demon Ranger Sorc but i couldn't get a lv 2 ashe so i bailed on it when i got a lv 2 brand.

Golem itself is a great tank and solid damage but I feel like there is a reason for this and it's pretty balanced relatively speaking. Running Elementals is such a limited restricted thing, there isn't a lot of synergy with a lot of other things but basically they are splashable in a few other things but don't have a lot on their own and the Golem is like Captain Planet for them (for ppl who know how their powers combined to form the Capt) but on their own it's like meh they aren't great.

If anything I'd say most of them on their own need some sort of tweak cause their costs are way too high as well as in the case of Lissandra just too dam slow and not worth investing Tears or whateva; especially when you compare her effect to Sejuani who's is better and she is at least a Knight so has some synergy with some semi-strong class and being glacial obv she is a great pick with a Ashe and way better than Lissandra.

Brand is fine Kennen is in a weird place Anivia is absolutely shit unless you already have like Morello's and Tear for her

So basically they have 1 1/2 functioning champs so they should probably have a decent Active considering you are trying to get 3 of these shitty guys.

Needing 3 of 4 Elementalist (forget about anivia cause you ain't gettin her and if you do i promise you will be disappointed) for anything other than a gamebreaking or at least possible gamebreaking effect would be a waste of a class

Sëtíer7/6/2019, 8:59:42 PM1 votes

For sure, Im not asking to cut him in half, just.. a slight nerf, make it possible, realistic. And What bothers me, is he is always summoned directly in the center of the map, no matter my positioning its almost as if he has a lure on him so everyone attacks him first. I can kill the golem, yes, but by the time he dies 5v1, the rest of his/her team is untouched and im dead.