Cheaters in TFT?

Corvin0716·Jan 7, 2020·4 votes·2,481 views

Situtation: mirror match. Both of us have the same champions in the same position, blademaster comp. My nocturne is gold, his silver. Items are the same, except I have hush, he doesn't. He wins all 4 rounds against me, always 3-4 champions stays alive. One time okay, rng favored him with cloud trait or something but all the time? I couldn't kill him once with a lot stronger team Noc3>>>>>>>>>Noc2. Again, same comp, same champion positions on the field. So how????

Don't you have the same feeling sometimes? That certain players seemingly deal a lot more damage than they should? Random champion (no steel, no crystal) survives everything with 10 hp without any sense?

Am I just paranoid or something is really fishy about this game???

22 Comments

BLACK REALM GODJan 7, 20203 votes

you're just paranoid.

unless you post proof of your match where i can deduce gameplay frame by frame then it's hearsay.

regardless there are 2 mechanics in the game where you can't see the values of. dodge and mana gain.

Corvin0716Jan 7, 20201 votes

If I post you detailed proofs you can make changes?

BLACK REALM GODJan 7, 20203 votes

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If I post you detailed proofs you can make changes?

my point is that unless you have video evidence it's hard to believe that you're not paranoid. if you have video evidence i can at least see what you're talking about. otherwise i'm just speculating and you're potentially lying or exaggerating.

Corvin0716Jan 8, 20201 votes

my point is that unless you have video evidence it's hard to believe that you're not paranoid. if you have video evidence i can at least see what you're talking about. otherwise i'm just speculating and you're potentially lying or exaggerating.

Why should I care about what you believe if you don't have any power to change anything? You ask me to spend my time to get proofs for no real reason since either way you are unable to do anything. This is a forum, a place for chatting about the game. I am not looking for changes here, for that purpose I open a ticket and post proofs there, to someone who might do something about it. Btw, if it wasn't clear, I didn't say that ppl are actually cheating, I said the game sometimes make me feel they do. As you can see there are other players who know what I am talking about. If you are not one of them and don't believe what I am saying then ignore the post and move on.

CharDeeMcDennizJan 9, 20202 votes

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This is a forum, a place for chatting about the game.

It's not much good "chatting" about something that you very well could be just making up.

if you want to discuss it, you have to provide more than, "THIS SUPER CRAZY THING HAPPENED TO ME, I PROMISE!!!"

BLACK REALM GODJan 9, 20201 votes

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Why should I care about what you believe if you don't have any power to change anything? You ask me to spend my time to get proofs for no real reason since either way you are unable to do anything. This is a forum, a place for chatting about the game. I am not looking for changes here, for that purpose I open a ticket and post proofs there, to someone who might do something about it. Btw, if it wasn't clear, I didn't say that ppl are actually cheating, I said the game sometimes make me feel they do. As you can see there are other players who know what I am talking about. If you are not one of them and don't believe what I am saying then ignore the post and move on.

"why should i care about what you believe if you don't have any power to change anything?"

lol... the arrogance in this statement alone...

It seems obvious that you haven't a clue as to why changes are made or how impactful public opinion is.

if you can't sway public opinion then you must pay a fee to create change. personally i don't have the money to make changes happen. perhaps you do? It would seem so since you're uncaring about the opinions of others and so quick to dismiss those who would give you a chance to present your argument.

that's fine. and you're right. i will continue to dismiss your claims as false. as will many others.

so good luck with your submissions because at this point i'd rather look into the sun than extend an olive branch to someone as rude as you.

ThunderCraftJan 7, 20201 votes

he is not paranoid it is confirmed, i hope riot remove this weird RNG in set 3.

BLACK REALM GODJan 8, 20202 votes

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he is not paranoid it is confirmed, i hope riot remove this weird RNG in set 3.

please link confirmation?

ThunderCraftJan 8, 20201 votes

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/10/dev-tft-set-1-learnings/

So as Set 1 went on, we made improvements by moving towards more controlled randomness. For example, we revamped the item >distribution system so that the outcomes were more controlled than before while also opening up a wider variety of potential outcomes. >We saw this lead to a more fair and more exciting experience.

basically the game control the RNG to make it "more exciting" thats why it is so hard to win in set 2.

CharDeeMcDennizJan 9, 20201 votes

that link doesn't prove your point, nor does it do anything to re-enforce what the OP was trying to say.

ThunderCraftJan 9, 20201 votes

but it does it confirm the RNG it' s manipulated to make games exciting and in set 1 this RNG manip didn' t exist

AsukazzzJan 7, 20201 votes

Cloud along with better luck on crits could easily account for that.

Corvin0716Jan 7, 20201 votes

I mean, sure it can. It also brings up the question: What is the point of ranked mode in this game if rng fucks you over no matter what?

XhaidenJan 7, 20201 votes

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I mean, sure it can. It also brings up the question: What is the point of ranked mode in this game if rng fucks you over no matter what?

To test your luck - i guess. Would be really silly to see this version of TFT in competitive play. I mean, just imagine the commentators - commenting the evolution of a game: "The game barely started and we already have 2 spatula drops.... 3 Neeko drops at Dragon - now that's pure skill... wtf is going on? there's 5 with druid/woodland - stage 3 - 4 yet x has 2 woodland lvl 3 - now that's what i call insane luc'... i mean skill!"

Commit SudokuJan 7, 20201 votes

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I mean, sure it can. It also brings up the question: What is the point of ranked mode in this game if rng fucks you over no matter what?

the skill in the game is reducing the effects rng can take on you rng isnt end all be all in tft people wouldnt win consistently ever to be able to stay in the higher ranks. If you believe that rng is the largest factor of the game then you will never improve your gameplay.

AsukazzzJan 8, 20201 votes

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I mean, sure it can. It also brings up the question: What is the point of ranked mode in this game if rng fucks you over no matter what?

Personally I don't see much reason for ranked in with this game mode in it's current state.

Beteljext13Jan 7, 20201 votes

I mean I understand how you feel, I lost to someone the other day when I had 2 more units than him and everytime I played him his taliyah would ALWAYS stun my taliyah first, they were both max mana at the start of the match... It was kind of ridiculous, I faced the guy 4-5 times and we were in the top 3... I don't think he was cheating I just think somehow RNG favored him, 4-5 times over me =/... literally every match that's what happend, only difference is mine was 3 star and his was two.

To give you context, I had 6 mages, 6 ocean and turned ocean lux (level 2) into a mage... along with a couple 2-3 buffs that I can't remember, literally had 9 units out thanks to force of nature and he only had 7... but he won and knocked me out when it was the last 3, thanks to his luck. It certainly felt like he was cheating, we both had naut's out but it seemed like my team was cc'd the entire fight, made zero sense... he didn't have a malph or a nami, only other cc he had was mumu and was lvl 1 on his front line (should have died instantly pretty much) but yet somehow my key untis were just constantly cc'd while his got no cc's... literally looking at naut with full mana, taliyah full mana both not casting ults and dying... was complete and utter ******* bull****

Corvin0716Jan 8, 20201 votes

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I mean I understand how you feel, I lost to someone the other day when I had 2 more units than him and everytime I played him his taliyah would ALWAYS stun my taliyah first, they were both max mana at the start of the match... It was kind of ridiculous, I faced the guy 4-5 times and we were in the top 3... I don't think he was cheating I just think somehow RNG favored him, 4-5 times over me =/... literally every match that's what happend, only difference is mine was 3 star and his was two.

To give you context, I had 6 mages, 6 ocean and turned ocean lux (level 2) into a mage... along with a couple 2-3 buffs that I can't remember, literally had 9 units out thanks to force of nature and he only had 7... but he won and knocked me out when it was the last 3, thanks to his luck. It certainly felt like he was cheating, we both had naut's out but it seemed like my team was cc'd the entire fight, made zero sense... he didn't have a malph or a nami, only other cc he had was mumu and was lvl 1 on his front line (should have died instantly pretty much) but yet somehow my key untis were just constantly cc'd while his got no cc's... literally looking at naut with full mana, taliyah full mana both not casting ults and dying... was complete and utter ******* bull****

When the game decides to send my ranger or mage carry into the middle of the enemy team for no fucking reason that is a gold one too:)

ThunderCraftJan 7, 20201 votes

rng favored him

the weird "RNG" in set 2 really favors players, this is "to make things more interesting"

VvVVvVJan 7, 20201 votes

Sad part is none of this can be proven since TFT match history doesnt allow you to expand each game to see the other players and comps you were in the game with. I find it very hard to believe that 2 people had the same comp, same champs, same items on those same champs. With the exception that 1 had a 3* and 1 item difference.

Same comp? Same Champs? Same items? Same items on the same champs????? odds of this happening are way too high for this to be true.

Corvin0716Jan 8, 20201 votes

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Sad part is none of this can be proven since TFT match history doesnt allow you to expand each game to see the other players and comps you were in the game with. I find it very hard to believe that 2 people had the same comp, same champs, same items on those same champs. With the exception that 1 had a 3* and 1 item difference.

Same comp? Same Champs? Same items? Same items on the same champs????? odds of this happening are way too high for this to be true.

I assume you don't play this mode much. Items for blademasters are pretty much set in stone. The comp is too. Rek'Sai + Nocturne for steel trait, Nocturne + Sivir + Yasuo + Aatrox for blademaster trait(before someone gets Yi), Kha'zix + Qiyana + Nocturne for assassins trait, Sivir + Kha'zix for desert trait. This is the most efficient therefore common blademaster comp with cloud/mystic complements at lvl 8-9. Everyone who buids blademasters tries to build them this way.

VvVVvVJan 9, 20202 votes

Well your assumption is wrong.

Also it doesnt matter if the Comp and items for blademasters are "set in stone." You still have to ge the damn items and the components to make the items. You are not guaranteed to get the items you want. For example, there are a few times I myself have tried to build all mages and I was sitting there with 2 spatulas and I never got 1 tear the entire game.

So like I said, for 2 people to have the exact same comp as far as same champs, same items and same items on the same champs it is highly unlikely.