I've never seen anything more obnoxious in TFT than these Glacial abusers. I sincerely hope that Riot nerfs Glacial. Nerf the units themselves or just the passive. These Glacial abusers make my blood boil faster than getting no items from the first three stages plus Golems.
What do u guys think of it?
Sincerely, AkatsuNL
The problem with glacials for me is that a bonus of 2 Glacials is enough to freeze the entire team if ashe has a Hurricane for example, it's also disgusting how long the stun is ...
Disagree, I want a team of tier 3's with perfect item sets to be frozen the entire fight until they lose.
(Sarcasm)
Buff Glacial units, specifically Lissandra (idk), Ashe (base DPS), Braum (base DPS/ability) and Anivia (idk here either). Then nerf Glacial itself.
Reduce stun duration from 2s to 1s. Increase proc chance from 20/30/45% => 35/45/60%.
This way they proc it 33% more but it stuns for 50% less. Overall less effective and the stun duration being lowered means if they don't get chain stunned they can actually cast their ability before being stunned again. Overall nerf in effectiveness statistically is about 33%. Can probably buff it up from here if it's too weak but for god's sake no 2s stuns on basic attacks.
Not like its a bitch to even build cause the chances of rolling your 25th vayne is much more than rolling sejuani, not to mention glacial has no 1 cost, they're all 3-6. Generally every comp is a bitch to fight against, Probably shouldn't even have comp buffs to begin with.
Dunno - Running heavy frontline on a regular base I have ZERO issues with Glacial. Who cares if my Cho or Seju gets Freezed a few times - in the end they still ult and proc their Redemtion on Death.
The only excetpion to this is Glacial 6 which usuall lacks MASSIVE amounts of DMG. I remember a Glacial round where my Karthus Ulted 3 times in a row without any Items. =P
Yeah, the glacial seems a little crazy rn - maybe it could have diminishing returns for repeat applications
Yeah a lot of things can be tough to fight, but they've all got counterplay. Assassins? Move your frontline to the back, done. Rangers/Sorcerers? Get assassins. Glacial? Just kinda lose, not really anything you can do about it, and it's infuriating. Yes let's give pieces with already potent CC even more, that's a brilliant idea.
Consider the following: Make glacial a.k.a ICE a layer of armour and Frozen Heart. AFAIK a champ take full damage even when encased in ice? In my mind it would be relatively "easy" to implement such an effect given they are already in game. This way we can still build glacial comps but it would not be without a downside.
Glacial Demon and Kassidin and Kha Zix all seem too powerful. Id lower kass's mana burn but tripple the damage it does per mana burn. Ranger/ gunslinger. Why is the bruiser synergy so useless on top of being hard to get and doesnt fit with other synergies. guess we had to mirror summoners rift on that one.
I agree Glacial is just stupid Half of my team gets stunlocked and the other half cant peel through the glacial frontline (Braum Sej and voli are all good tanks) volibear being able to stun everyone in one swing is annoying and giving the glacial buff to another ranger means ashe and that other ranger just go to town on everyone and keeps them stunlocked so your starting a fight off with half your troops and then after they die your backline is also not be able to do anything its just a victory comp and even if you have the higher teir characters and the better items you dont have much chance of success Id say either put a cooldown between stuns or just make it not stun but instead put a stacking attack speed debuff because the game is infuriating when someone builds glacial and the team you assembled just cant do anything.
still not as bad as two ranged champions with rfc destroying your 6 yordle team, that have no synergy besides yordles and maybe wild...... makes yordles useless :/ and yordles and phantom dancer are definitly a counter against glacials, they can't freeze that which they can't hit O.O
Idk man, a 2 glacial comp with only their Braum 2star with no items vs My 3star Shyv with warmong bloodthirst and AoE melee thing for the final fight 1v1 and being perma stunned Into losing seems balanced AF to me.
They need to introduce a simple stun cooldown mechanic, just like Sejuani has on her E and similar stories.
Effect: Heat of the moment "This unit has been recently frozen and is resistant to the cold for 2 seconds"
Here's my opinion on Glacial:
Annoying? Yes. OP? Probably not...
Every time I see or play glacial, the result is generally the same: Gets to #4 or so, and then just gets obliterated by teams that have damage before it can lock down a win.
Units are generally all expensive, so it's hard to get to (6) (2 Coin, 2 Coin, 3 Coin, 3 Coin, 4 Coin, 5 Coin) or get 3 stars.
Items don't really work the BEST with it (although Voli/Ashe do have strengths with them, Voli doesn't always last long enough, and Ashe doesn't have strong aoe apply of on hit debuffs)
Gunslingers/Nobles/Imperials/Mages all seem to beat Glacial atm once they are developed.
P.S. Glacial WAS nerfed; It used to be (6) 60%. Now it's 45%.
Yes I completely agree with this! I've almost quit this game so many times over 0iq idiots who stack glacial put 0 thought into positioning or items, just know they will get top 4 just due to the fact your army is a Popsicle for the entirety of the fight... I don't understand how this can be considered skill, nor do I understand how this has remained in the game at its current proc rate until now. 2 Glacial is apparently 20% chance to freeze, I'm sorry but someone needs to check the code because its more like 80%!
Glacial is a joke for the braindead to feel good at a strategy game, this is supposed to be autochess, this is like chess grandmasters introducing a ultra queen in chess that can't be attacked and if a unit approaches her are stuck and cannot attack for 20 years.
There's absolutely 0 strategy involved in being made an icecube.
I agree, at least nerf the earlier levels, one ashe with AS items and a braum and they basically freeze eveyone, add a sej and GG. Maybe they should make an item that reduces stuns. Idm late game full glacial because that is hard to get and been eanred.
aaaaaaannnd its broken again
I find CC in general dominating the current "meta"...
