chogath meta is op

Frostbitten·Aug 9, 2019·5 votes·4,586 views

pretty much since the last patch everyone and their mother is going for lvl2 cho with sorc .......... stack items on him and poof! he one shots everyone ... i see this in EVERY game its worse then the demon meta

15 Comments

XhandelAug 9, 20192 votes

The problem is not the cho, is the void bonus, true damage on a high damage spell thats a huge AoE is pretty nasty, but at least they addressed some things alike to that, at least no longer a 1 start karthus on every comp will kill your entire team, now to wait for a draven nerf and a void nerf and thats it.

oldsouth baronAug 10, 20191 votes

im sorry, but no its cho. cho is what breaks the entire game open.

you can play him brawler/void/ or just sorc. and all them will stomp most other comps

i dread him immeasurably more than karthus.

Kei143Aug 9, 20192 votes

Then go back to demons and burn the shit out a his mana so his ult is useless.

Or silence him.

GeckAug 9, 20193 votes

Doesn't matter because you throw a guardian angel on him and he insta ults as soon as he revives. Cho is so broken that you really don't even need the void buff (although it's obviously even better with it), more so you don't even need to fit him into your comp, you get a level 2 cho and you throw it in anyway. Your build is secondary to the cho, i honestly really hate that he still hasn't been nerfed.

Panthaz89Aug 9, 20192 votes

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Doesn't matter because you throw a guardian angel on him and he insta ults as soon as he revives. Cho is so broken that you really don't even need the void buff (although it's obviously even better with it), more so you don't even need to fit him into your comp, you get a level 2 cho and you throw it in anyway. Your build is secondary to the cho, i honestly really hate that he still hasn't been nerfed.

He received a pretty heavy nerf when not played in void when they lowered his ability dmg and knockup time....

GeckAug 9, 20191 votes

Yes he's not "as" good without void buff, his ult is still basically an entire board 400 damage knockup at level 2. Add a morellonomicon and everything is basically dead. Besides this, getting void buff for him is extremely easy, it only requires 2 other champs, reksai is another brawler so he instantly has synergy, kass makes him fit into sorcerers and khazix fits him into assassins. Giving him the void buff is a non-issue.

Panthaz89Aug 9, 20191 votes

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Yes he's not "as" good without void buff, his ult is still basically an entire board 400 damage knockup at level 2. Add a morellonomicon and everything is basically dead. Besides this, getting void buff for him is extremely easy, it only requires 2 other champs, reksai is another brawler so he instantly has synergy, kass makes him fit into sorcerers and khazix fits him into assassins. Giving him the void buff is a non-issue.

I think Morellonimicon is a much bigger issue than Chogath is at the moment in that aoe spells don't have a reduction in the % hp debuff along with 100% healing reduction that's ridiculous on any character and the most absurd on Karthus while Sol, Kennan, etc can blow away teams easy with it. If I can get Karthus to 2 and get one ult off its much worse than a Chogath landing rupture once and its not gonna be used on 1 or 0 characters by random chance.

GeckAug 9, 20192 votes

Karthus is a 5 cost unit though, the chances of getting a level 2 karthus is drastically lower than getting the 4 cost cho'gath, and even then cho'gath is all around better than karthus, because while karthus has to charge up his ult for a few seconds, allowing CC to cancel his ult, cho just ults instantly.

IMHO cho should be a 5 cost unit.

Panthaz89Aug 9, 20192 votes

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Karthus is a 5 cost unit though, the chances of getting a level 2 karthus is drastically lower than getting the 4 cost cho'gath, and even then cho'gath is all around better than karthus, because while karthus has to charge up his ult for a few seconds, allowing CC to cancel his ult, cho just ults instantly.

IMHO cho should be a 5 cost unit.

Cho needs a lot more mana to ult by comparsion and Karthus does double his dmg.....even a lvl 1 Karthus is going to deal more dmg than a lvl 2 Cho unless you are facing Nobles.

GeckAug 9, 20191 votes

level 1 karthus does the same damage as level 2 cho, 400, but cho has the chance of ulting an entire team rather than just 5 units. Plus the wind-up making karthus susceptible to CC canceling his ult entirely makes cho the better choice, disregarding the fact it's significantly easier to get cho 2 than it is to get karthus 1.

All of this aside, you can run both, because karthus fits into the kassadin route for void buff with sorcerers. Cho'gath is just all around too good to be a 4 cost unit.

Kei143Aug 9, 20191 votes

A 0 mana (from demon burn) Cho when revived will not have ult.

Not sure if silence persists through GA. I don't think it does though.

GeckAug 10, 20191 votes

Yeah i was more referring to the hush, which doesn't matter with GA because after reviving aggro is lost. Going demons is kind of int'ing right now, at least going 6 is. They have damage but no frontline so they die before they can do anything. Going 3 demons is then just a small chance of burning his mana. It's ultimately not really an option.

DCxFernCxManAug 10, 20191 votes

rapid firecannon with cho, he's ranged now. nobody kill cho at ranged enemy champ block wall

BestPudgeNAAug 9, 20192 votes

The worst part is Cho'gath Rupture is so random. Sometimes he Ruptures 8 units sometimes he Ruptures where Pyke was 2 seconds ago. Very tilting play the Cho'gath lottery meta

XinZhao2WinNhaoAug 9, 20191 votes

Isn't the point of the meta to be OP and have the best chance of climbing over a long series of games?

There's never (unless Riot makes some serious changes) going to be a double IE Elise, Warmogs TF and Yuumi Morde meta because it's just generally not that great of a comp.

When Demons were meta people said demons were OP, when Assassins were meta people said assassins were OP.