Pets shouldn't do damage to players—the Elise problem.

Independent Cat·7/28/2019, 2:34:18 AM·39 votes·10,876 views

Late game, if Elise gets her ult off just as a match ends and each unit is—for example—doing 4 damage and she's a 3 star, she's doing 20 damage to players. A 1-cost unit doing extra damage to players is intense and questionable already, but she does A MAXIMUM OF FIVE TIMES extra player damage. This can make you take 25+ damage late game if you get stomped in one fight just from Elise.

21 Comments

Z3SIeeper7/28/2019, 3:57:15 AM9 votes

It's the upside of having an Elise, since there really isn't any other upside other than being a token synergy unit.

Thefrostyviking7/28/2019, 11:02:58 AM7 votes

Elise is a super weak unit in pretty much all other regards though.

I mean even for a 1 star, compare her to say Garen, Darius, Tristana or kassadin.

Elise hits you hard if she ends up survivng a round with her spiders? Its a mini miracle if she actually gets that far.

Barkley7/28/2019, 5:18:33 PM4 votes

If you took this away from elise there would legitimately be no reason to buy her, though. This is the ONLY good thing about Elise.

Everything else she does, someone else does better.

Shapeshifter? Gnar is better. Shyv is better. Nidalee is better. Swain is better. Demon? Pick a different demon -- they're better. (Evelynn is probably just as trash)

I wouldn't mind if they got rid of elise's extra damage IF they allowed her spiders to apply on-hit effects. But since her spiders don't apply on-hit effects -- this is kinda the only thing she's got goin for her, bud.

DUDE BRO7/28/2019, 6:48:27 AM3 votes
KillerQueenXIII7/29/2019, 2:15:24 AM2 votes

It just seems like it allows people to easily stomp out other players early on as well (In a really cheap, unfair way), before they can even get their build going.

This generally won't make a huge difference against a player who has already had decent luck... So it essentially just punishes players who are already a bit behind (Making it much more difficult for them to make a comeback, especially if they're unlucky enough to frequently go against the person with Elise). It just feels really cheap, ultimately, and I can't see why it would be good for the game.

FireDrizzle7/28/2019, 4:54:09 AM2 votes

Elise is the champ you dont want too draw and also dont want too play against. This should be changed but bringing up what gold Elise can do is a bit ridiculous with her being the weakest champ in the game too make gold, if you are losing too a team almost -1 a champ then its hopeless. Honestly anything else costing 9 gold is tankier, does twice as much damage and/or has utility than gold Elise.

14daysuspensionk7/28/2019, 10:41:28 AM1 votes

Well it is how her spiderlings work on SR...

Panthaz897/28/2019, 7:08:08 AM1 votes

Idk its one of the things i'm fine with considering Elise is still rather weak compared to the snake that summons snake wards(that unit is actually good too) in the other games this is actually rather pedestrian.