Rerolling in ARAM

aLawfulFalafel·Dec 11, 2014·2 votes·1,202 views

too many people instant reroll without asking if anyone wants, when rerolling a champ it should have a timer so ppl can grab that champ if theyd like since a champ is being RRd anyways, then once that champ is RRd away it cant be RRd back in.

ex 1 : i want GP but he gets RRd instantly and i cant trade leaving me stuck with X champ and no rrs

ex 2 : ally RRd Nunu after asking if anyone wants, nobody does and i wait for RR before doing my own RR just in case they/me want to trade, once i decide to use my RR i get Nunu...ummmm if i didnt want him b4 why do i want him now, waste of a rr and a source of frustration (frustration causes toxicity and we know this)

also RR limit should be increased slightly with experience or champs owned. ex : 1k wins = +1 to RR limit ex 2 : for every 'X number' champions owned increase RR limit by 1 (X could be 50 or even 100)

i personaly prefer RR limit growing with champs owned because it allows leeway for those that want to collect em all but wont because ARAMing will get worse as well as itll give nothing to those ARAM only accounts since they usually wont have more than 20 champs owned

10 Comments

Deep Terror NamiDec 11, 20142 votes

I think an alternative solution would be to give players a popup when they hit reroll which says; "Are you sure you want to reroll a random champion? You may also trade with another player if you both own the champions"

aLawfulFalafelDec 11, 20141 votes

people will just click yes and insta RR anyways, needs a team trade function to prevent this, so that I (me as in the person who watched my fav champ get RRd away) have a choice in the matter

also Rito should always have teamwork op videos to be watched in the client so ppl understand that trading a rly llikeable champ or trading a champ at all can improve your chances of success before the game even starts

Deep Terror NamiDec 11, 20141 votes

If they just click yes then they didn't want to trade with you. Move on.

aLawfulFalafelDec 11, 20141 votes

i think your missing the point, if they dont want either champion then whats the harm in letting you have a choice before they re roll the other one

example to clarify : i have nunu, u have GP, u go to RR GP but i swap it for nunu when the option pops up, i now have GP and your RR goes through, neither of us are stuck with nunu and i was able to get the champ i like/wanted and you were COMPLETLY UNEFFECTED because you were RRing anyways

COWMANOFCOWSDec 12, 20142 votes

Sounds like a good system I support it

FiendOfOneDec 11, 20141 votes

The problem with a time limit is that people who don't primarily play ARAM don't necessarily have mastery pages set up for them. I often get a champ I don't play often, or who works better in other ways in ARAm than in normals (hey Soraka, how ya doing?), and I need to whip up a new mastery page. That being said, yeah, something to allow for a trade before RR would be nice.

aLawfulFalafelDec 11, 20141 votes

i dont understand how not having a useable mastery page (your own fault imo) has anything to do with offering to trade before rerolling right away, care to clarify plz?

FiendOfOneDec 11, 20141 votes

You may need the time to build a mastery page. Granted, this usually only takes about 10 seconds. But keep in mind that you can only have 20 Mastery pages, and then look at, say, someone who plays solo que a lot. They realistically probably have 15 of those, minimum, dedicated to champs they use in solo que on a regular basis (3 champs deep in every role is kind of the standard). Also keep in mind that some mastery pages just don't work with ARAM (See: Most of the utility tree). For example, I have a 21/0/9 page - runic affinity means nothing in ARAM. Why would I have that?

We only have so many mastery pages, and they are going to be dedicated to the game type you play most often and the champs you play most often. Once you start breaching about 60 champs, juggling mastery pages becomes more difficult, and then you factor in free week champs in ARAM that you may have never even played before.

aLawfulFalafelDec 11, 20141 votes

ahhh now i understand, thanks for the clarity, first off let me point out that i did NOT know there was a masteries limit XD

that being said i have approx 13 mast pages and find them all to be interchangeable no matter where im going or who i am, but i am not everyone XD

but still (my opinion) if u play aram then u should have 5 pages set aside for it/built for it 1 - mage, standard 2 - mage mana (ryze kassadin) 3 - ADC tanky or tanky ADC whichever u prefer, i go ADC tanky 4 - straight tank 5 - open build / fill in your blank (hybrid for me)

if this isnt enough then you should consider revisting other masteries and seeing which ones are truly interchangeable and labeling them as such (20 pages is alot, i have 52 champs running on 13 pages and i bet theres 1 or 2 pages i never use)

my support champs all can work nicely with masts i have for other champs, like sona can just be pure AP ARAMage with no worries at all, if their base is AP give em AP stuff, AD for AD and tank for tank, in reality your masts are pretty straight forward for aram (again my opinion)

now that that is out of the way, heres what i dont get, if you're building a mast page then you're not rerolling your champ right? if u clicked edit masts without looking who u can trade with then thats nobodies fault, BUT, if ur trying to exchange with someone and they INSTA RR u should have the option to grab that champ as well before its discarded.

are you suggesting someone RRs last second and u want? cuz thats not INSTA RR and if u want someone bad enoough last second then u most likely have an idea (if not know exactly) which runes/masts you will select and youve probly already attempted a trade with them earlier

plz let me know if i am missing your point :)

COWMANOFCOWSDec 12, 20141 votes

Also I have champs that I never use unless aram makes me. Id love to be able to j6st rem8ve them so that wont happen