Apparently I shouldn't report leavers in ARAMs?

Cavill·Feb 1, 2015·2 votes·1,643 views

So just played an ARAM, our Rek'Sai DC'd.

Teemo said to report him.

Lux, who was premade with Rek'Sai, said not to because he was having connectivity issues.

I took Teemo's side.

Karma took Lux's side. I accused Karma of being premade with Lux and Rek'Sai, she denied it, but I know she lie.

We got into a fight over it. Lux and Karma said reporting leavers in ARAM is dumb and "it's like reporting in bots".

Teemo said "an afk is an afk". I said "lmao premades"

Enemy Nautilus said he wouldn't report Rek'Sai. I mean, we were beating his team in kills so I'm not surprised that he's glad Rek'Sai left.

Anyway, to the point, should we still report on ARAMs, or should we let reportable behavior slide because it's "just ARAM"?

I mean, Rek'Sai's name was in red at the results screen anyway which means leaver buster got him, so whatever.

25 Comments

CamaHaFeb 1, 20157 votes

u report person not for leaving game, u report person for ruining that game for all other ppl. ARAM, TT, Dominion or SR it doesn't matter. Ruined game is ruined game.

I Kill CommiesFeb 1, 20153 votes

AFK is AFK

jpguy902Feb 1, 20153 votes

I dunno, put yourself in that person's shoes. If you got disconnected from a game because of connectivity issues wouldn't you want to be shown the same mercy. Its different if they person rage quit but you guys were ahead so it sounds like the person didn't intentionally disconnect. Or are really gonna let a loss in an aram make you that salty.

Killer X 12Feb 2, 20153 votes

No, i'd expect to be reported since i take responsibility for everything that happens on my end. If it is my router/modem/wireless adaptor/computer or the internet service that i pay for then the issue is my side. THis means i could do something about it. If the issue is out of my control (servers, world explodes), then i don't' expect a report...but that is rarely the case.

jpguy902Feb 2, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Killer X 12,realm=NA,application-id=LFfTlAky,discussion-id=Uv3WUJgl,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-02-02T09:26:01.777+0000)

No, i'd expect to be reported since i take responsibility for everything that happens on my end. If it is my router/modem/wireless adaptor/computer or the internet service that i pay for then the issue is my side. THis means i could do something about it. If the issue is out of my control (servers, world explodes), then i don't' expect a report...but that is rarely the case.

I pay for high speed internet, 30 mbps. I have had issues before with the service going out, whether it be bad weather or maintenance, it can still happen. You're wanting to give a guilty verdict when there is beyond reasonable doubt that this could have been out of the players hands. That's just being high in NaCl.

Ice Weasel XFeb 2, 20151 votes

Actually, that's not salt. That's using the report function as Riot intended. One game of AFK reports isn't going to penalize an account. You don't get banned for that. The point is to leave data on the account to be tallied upon further reports.

Example 1:

I get dropped once a week through no fault of my own (ISP goes down, storm occurs, pizza man shoves his way into my house and unplugs my modem, etc.)
I get reported by 9 people each game
System sees reports, but sees that it's only one game per week.
No penalty.

Example 2 - all in one day:

I get dropped from a game because my ISP burped.
I AFK from another game later that day because my colon ambushed me and I had to dive into the tub since the toilet's too small a target at that speed.
I get dropped from another game because my ISP decided to cycle my regional gateway's IP address (this has happened).
I get dropped from another game because my ISP's DNS server went down.
I get reported as AFK each game
System sees multiple games with AFK flags in a short period of time. Penalty is possible.

For both examples, the cause of AFK/leaving isn't really a conscious decision on the player's part. However, both should be reported. In the second example, the player should stop queuing simply because he is having frequent ISP issues. There is a definite risk of being dropped further, and he is putting his teammates' games in jeopardy every time he queues during this period.

jpguy902Feb 2, 20153 votes

Okay, okay, you've convinced me. :P

ßongsFeb 1, 20153 votes

AFK people ruin this game, I will report them 100% of the time.

FDruFeb 1, 20152 votes

Leaverbuster picks up leavers everytime. Reporting is kind of pointless, because it's probably not going to do anything anyway.

AnomanderFeb 1, 20151 votes

leave buster only catches people who are out of the game completely. A person can afk without disconnecting.

FDruFeb 1, 20151 votes

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leave buster only catches people who are out of the game completely. A person can afk without disconnecting.

Leaverbuster doesn't make any distinction between AFKs, leaves or time spent idle. If you don't leave the fountain for any reason it counts against you.

AnomanderFeb 1, 20152 votes

so what about the people who afk and dance on nexus turrets?. Once again you can afk without disconnecting. Also Leave buster is based on lack of movement for a set period of time/Disconnect. You can AFK and not get flagged that is why they have the report option.

FDruFeb 1, 20151 votes

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so what about the people who afk and dance on nexus turrets?. Once again you can afk without disconnecting. Also Leave buster is based on lack of movement for a set period of time/Disconnect. You can AFK and not get flagged that is why they have the report option.

Wow. Please stop pretending that you know better when you obviously have NO IDEA how the system works. It doesn't matter if you're moving around or casting abilities. Go ahead and try it.

Regardless of how ignorant you are, the topic was about someone disconnecting which is 100% going to be picked up by Leaverbuster. Good day.

AnomanderFeb 1, 20153 votes

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Wow. Please stop pretending that you know better when you obviously have NO IDEA how the system works. It doesn't matter if you're moving around or casting abilities. Go ahead and try it.

Regardless of how ignorant you are, the topic was about someone disconnecting which is 100% going to be picked up be Leaverbuster. Good day.

Really? The TOPIC was about afk's in ARAM and if they should be reported. Just because you think your right doesn't mean you are. If you can show me a red link or even a statement of any kind by RIOT that I am wrong I will gladly admit it. However attacking me because you THINK your right shows a lack of evidence in your argument.

Also note I never disputed "Leaverbuster doesn't make any distinction between AFKs, leaves or time spent idle. If you don't leave the fountain for any reason it counts against you."

I just note that there are AKF's that are outside of those that need to be reported. I think you really need to read the posts again.

FDruFeb 1, 20151 votes

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Really? The TOPIC was about afk's in ARAM and if they should be reported.

Leaverbuster handles AFKs, idles and disconnects and so there's no reason to report them. Obviously this wasn't clear enough the first time, but it is certainly amusing watching a bunch of idiots argue over what constitutes an AFK as if it even matters.

Killer X 12Feb 2, 20151 votes

Lol I hate when people are not only wrong, but get mad at others. The automated process of Leaverbuster works with disconnections (people whose names are red during post game) and those who would of received the 10 minute warning for being AFK/IDLE. The report function that is listed in the post game lobby is for people who do not fit those requirements.

Example: Someone who leaves for 8 minutes then comes back, then leaves again for another 8 minutes will not receive any punishment for leaverbuster, thats not how it works. You report that person for an AFK.

Sorry, but no one is really arguing/debating here. There is just one guy who is making a statement about how things are (a correct statement)m and one guy who is making a fool of himself (you).

Killer X 12Feb 2, 20151 votes

There is a report option for AFK and leavers for a reason. If it did not mean anything then it would not be there.

FDruFeb 2, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Killer X 12,realm=NA,application-id=LFfTlAky,discussion-id=Uv3WUJgl,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-02T09:23:03.023+0000) Example: Someone who leaves for 8 minutes then comes back, then leaves again for another 8 minutes will not receive any punishment for leaverbuster, thats not how it works. You report that person for an AFK.

lol. Go ahead and try AFKing for 8 minutes at a time and tell me how it works out for you. You'll get tagged for idling WAY before that.

[{quoted}](name=Killer X 12,realm=NA,application-id=LFfTlAky,discussion-id=Uv3WUJgl,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-02-02T09:17:38.966+0000)

There is a report option for AFK and leavers for a reason. If it did not mean anything then it would not be there.

You're right, there are ways to avoid being automatically marked as AFK but we're seriously sitting here trying to decide if someone disconnects if it should be considered AFK and reported. LOL how stupid is that.

AFK reports are pointless for players who are actually AFK. I know SR is a miserable map and you have 40 minutes to be angry about being a man down, but it doesn't change the fact that your reports don't matter. The system picks them up already. Get over it and stop hounding everyone in the game to report, they know that the match is lopsided already.

Killer X 12Feb 2, 20152 votes

The only thing we are concerned with is Where they playing the whole game? No = report Yes = no report There is nothing else to it.

It Hertz When IPFeb 1, 20152 votes

Even if they are just having connection issues, I report anyway. Because if your connection goes to shit on a frequent enough basis to trigger Leavebuster, you shouldn't queuing for LoL until you fix your damn internet.

0115D8CFFeb 1, 20151 votes

as I've said before, I've dc'd too many times to report someone else for it. if they don't say anything like "well I'm done' or "___ or afk" first, I won't report

LigerzzFeb 1, 20151 votes

Someone wanted to report someone for leaving an ARAM in custom. I think i'd allow that more than matchmade games.

Ice Weasel XFeb 2, 20151 votes

I think other than obvious cases of personal harassment, reporting someone in a custom game is silly. None of the stats are recorded, and in many cases you're playing with people you already know so the level of acceptability is different from a matchmade setup.

Killer X 12Feb 2, 20151 votes

There is no reason NOT to report in ARAMs. The reason you report an AFK is because they were not in the game. The reason does not matter. Connectivity issues/computer explode/pizz is thereyou ded it doesn't matter. I ask myself this: Was he there the whole game? No = report Yes = no report Pretty fucking simple. If i AFK, get DC'd i 100% expect reports from everyone in game. There is no reason for them not to report me if i AFK. Kids just don't want to take responsibility for anything.