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Can Dominion get a tutorial?

HeresyUntoFedex··7 votes·780 views

Almost every single match I play of Dominion, there's someone on my team absolutely no sense of strategy or game sense.

Either they don't know when or where to cap points or they pick squishy late game carries that need constant protection like Ashe and run off on their own into the Jungle. Hell, there's probably only ever one person on my team besides myself that realizes holding 3 points is all that's necessary to win.

I would just like a little tutorial video showing off basic things that everyone should already know like "Hey, attempting to capture this point will prevent it from firing on your allied Master Yi as he tower dives poor Ryze." and "Top lane has one more Capture Point than Bot lane, so it is better to send more of your team top to contest those points" and even "Guard your points"(that one people have alot of trouble with for some reason).

Sorry for ranting, just sick of having to explain all this stuff every single match.

9 Comments

Rebonack5 votes

Typically you don't want to guard your points.

What you want to do is set up shop in the jungle and control the jungle entrances so you can exert pressure on the enemy mid and bottom. Do it well, and you can five-cap and close out the game. Milling around at Windmill is pretty much the WORST thing you can do.

But that's something the tutorial should cover. People default to pushing minion waves to take points because pushing minion waves to take towers is the default behavior in MOBAs. Personal score rewards many behaviors that, in fact, reduce your chances of winning.

HeresyUntoFedex1 votes

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Typically you don't want to guard your points.

What you want to do is set up shop in the jungle and control the jungle entrances so you can exert pressure on the enemy mid and bottom. Do it well, and you can five-cap and close out the game. Milling around at Windmill is pretty much the WORST thing you can do.

But that's something the tutorial should cover. People default to pushing minion waves to take points because pushing minion waves to take towers is the default behavior in MOBAs. Personal score rewards many behaviors that, in fact, reduce your chances of winning.

While that strategy can and does work with certain setups/team comps, from what I've gathered it's usually safer to just acquire windmill and your two side points, then defend all those three and grind the match out till you win. Usually having 1 defending bot, 1 top, 2 WindMill, and the last roams between the points helping where pressure is being most applied by the other team.

I believe it's because while you have the point income advantage, you're team is only spread out through 3 points, making moving around to defend them quicker and easier, again assuming it's windmill and your side's 2 points.

Keep in mind I'm no where near amazing at Dominion though, and this could just be scrub talk for all I know, but I try to keep up on the meta.

ValuedCustomer4 votes

Not just that, I also want Dominion (and perhaps Twisted Treeline) to have its own Spectate channel the way Ranked Draft SR and ARAM do (bottom-right of the main menu). Learning through a tutorial is one thing, but seeing how it plays out is another.

Minarde2 votes

Dominion matches actually used to show up in that box too. I'm not sure if they stopped because Riot changed the algorithm or because there aren't enough high-MMR Dominion matches now.

MAN OF INTELLECT4 votes

Doesn't matter, half of my teammates are always bots in Dominion games. Seriously.

HeresyUntoFedex2 votes

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Doesn't matter, half of my teammates are always bots in Dominion games. Seriously.

Haven't had to deal with a ip-farm bot in a while actually, but they're definitely a problem that I think is ridiculous that Riot pretty much haven't even looked into.

I mean, they have time to crack down on all those players who party up and let the enemy win just for quicker IP, what about all these people that pretty much have their champ intentionally feeding for them?

Lovelle3 votes

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Doesn't matter, half of my teammates are always bots in Dominion games. Seriously.

As long as you win more than you lose, that should eventually stop happening (as often anyway). I just started playing Dominion recently and I had that problem too, but there haven't been any bots for me on either team in about a month.

On another note, here's a really good guide I found on the old forum. http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2244698 It's a bit outdated concerning some champions, but it's helped me out a lot so far.

SKOBODO4 votes

I think adding some simple tips when you start the mode/loading screen might help. Something like:

"Use the fog of war to your advantage." "Try to establish jungle control as a team." "Be mobile and try to avoid staying in one place for too long" "Remember to gank bot lane". "Make sure you don't spend too much time farming in top lane, your team needs you!"

Riot would have to rephrase them to work psychologically better, but advice like that could really help players improve. Perhaps Riot should gather some of the most experienced tournament players from NA and EUW and talk with us what kind of advice should be given?

Punkkee1 votes

insert "what's dominion" joke here

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