Where's the Lore? Allow me to Answer: Lore FAQ

Sharjo··77 votes·19,188 views

So every now and again someone makes a thread that pretty much have the same sentiment, but are worded differently every time:

“The lore’s really gone to shit with all these short lores.”

“Where’s the lore at anymore?”

“Why is the lore so small now?”

Essentially, people always ask “Where’s the lore?” and it’s understandable as to why some folks might be uninformed, as it can be a tad tricky to find and most folks will just look at the lore tab in the client and be like “Oh. Well lore’s shit”.

So allow me to answer your questions and queries! I’ll explain this and more to the best of my abilities, though do remember that I’m not a rioter, I’m just a community member who likes the lore too much for his own good.


#But before we begin, some context on the current lore situation#

http://i.imgur.com/OBgZdPh.jpg

So for the unaware, Riot’s changed they way they’ve approached lore over the years, and I want to give context as to some history regarding lore so that some other stuff later on makes sense, and it mostly comes down to one major decision made during 2014:

During September of 2014, Riot made a public announcement that the Institute of War was being removed from the lore.

Why was this important? Mainly because the IoW as we abbreviated it was the main glue that kept the entire framework of the lore together, and it also justified the gameplay of League as it stood. Without it that unifying element to the lore no longer existed, and as such entire swathes of lore was thrown in to question, and the entire game itself was no longer canon to the lore; the champions, items and maps appear in Runeterra, but the way the game is played doesn’t exist in any form in the League of Legends universe. The game draws from the narrative elements of the world but it’s not intrinsically linked anymore.

This decision was made by Riot long before the announcement was made, but it was also made earlier than perhaps most would’ve liked, because Riot felt they didn’t want to string us out and make lore changes without giving the main reason as to why. The major issue was that this made a good amount of lore non canon, and didn’t offer a fix in the mean time, resulting in champions like Jax, Kayle, Morgana, Orianna, Nocturne and others, whose entire existence in the League world was in a way justified by the IoW’s existence, had no lore at all.

Currently lore is being updated continuously to mend the rift this effective lore reboot left behind, and we’re getting there, but there’s still issues.

Now that context is out of the way, let’s start with questions!


#Wait, so the League of Legends isn’t canon?#

Correct. The League of Legends and the organisation that created it; the Institute of War, aren’t canon anymore. Any lore mentioning them ain’t canon either.

One thing to remember though; Summoners ARE still canon, but they’re wholly different to what they once were, and whatever they are now hasn’t been elaborated on by Riot as of yet.


#So Riot broke the lore and hasn’t fixed it yet? What are they even doing?!#

Yeah things are still broken, but as I stated, things are being fixed and lore is being mended and improved. The process hasn’t been quick, and has been compounded with other issues, but for the last year or so we’ve been on track and the current manner in which lore is put out is the one Riot’s sticking to for the foreseeable future.

This is also why many champions still have lore referencing the Institute of War and the League of Legends; they simply haven’t been updated yet.


#What’s the plan for lore on Riot’s end then?#

Right now they’re going around updating champion bios, with the intent of structuring them as follows:

  • A quote from the champion to get their voice and attitude in your head from the get go
  • An extensive biography detailing their history.
  • A short story (currently referred to as “Colour Text”) to showcase this champion acting in the lore.

The current scheme for which champions will get updated lore first is as follows:

  • If they are a new champion they get this form of lore right out of the gate.
  • If the champion is receiving a Visual and Gameplay Update (VGU), they will have updated lore to go with it in the current format.
  • If the champion is included as part of a regional event, such as the Mount Targon, Shurima and Shadow Isles events of the past year, they will receive updated lore in the current format.
  • If they are a champion with wholly broken lore they are high priority to receive updated lore in the current format.

As a note on a few of these things I’ve talked about:

  • A champion’s biography will not speak to all of the details of their history, but will tell you the main crux of how they got to be who they are. Some champions actually lack direct origins entirely in their bios, but generally this is an intentional choice. Kindred’s bio is a good example of this.
  • The colour text is canon for all intents and purposes and can offer story progression. Maokai and Skarner’s colour texts are strong examples of this.
  • Champions who’re part of Class Updates like the Mage Update and upcoming Assassin Update will NOT be receiving updated lore at the time of the updates.
  • Currently, only one of the champions who had their lore broken by the IoW removal have been updated thus far: Taric, and this was more so because of his VGU and the Mount Targon event. We’re still waiting on many others like Jax, Nocturne and Orianna.
  • Right now, Warwick and Galio are the next two champions scheduled for VGUs, and as such they are next in line to get their lores updated to the current format.

#Ok so that’s all fine and well but which champions have been fixed already?#

Currently, at the time of me typing this up, 35 out of 133 champions have lore in the current format as discussed above. They are:

Amumu AurelionSol Azir Diana Elise Fiora Gangplank Graves Hecarim Illaoi Ivern Jhin Kalista Karthus Kindred Kled Leona Maokai MissFortune Mordekaiser Nasus Pantheon Poppy Rammus Renekton Ryze Shen Sivir Skarner Taliyah Taric Thresh TwistedFate Xerath Yorick


#Really? That’s it?! Surely there’s got to me more!#

Right now the 35 champions I’ve mentioned are the only champions with their lore updated to the current format, accounting for roughly a quarter of the roster, but they are not the only champions who’ve received changes or have canon lore right now, so I’ll go over some specifics:

Champions with Colour Text Only

Currently there are 7 champions in a strange spot because they have colour text, but not full bios, and they are divided in to two groups.

The first group of champions were either released or updated during 2014 before the announcement of the retcon, and were given colour text as part of a new direction by Riot in exploring lore delivery. These 5 champions are:

Braum Gnar Heimerdinger Twitch Velkoz

The 2 other champions had their lores updated AFTER the IoW removal: Sion and Evelynn . The reasons behind them having only colour text are different in each case, with Sion’s being an intentional omission due to narrative decisions at the time, while Evelynn’s was meant to be effectively a bit of love for her current state considering her lore has always been in poor shape, and she’ll get a proper extended bio when she is eventually given a VGU, of which she is very high in priority to get.

Though Evelynn’s may not be when she receives her VGU, depending on what direction they take her lore, for all intents and purposes these short stories can be considered canon.

Champions with a Short Paragraph and that’s it

When Riot initially made the decision to remove the IoW from the canon, there was a major issue in that the client and website were intrinsically linked, and so though Riot wanted to have a short paragraph in the client that linked to the website with its full lore, this couldn’t be achieved, and as such the champions of the time were left with only a short paragraph. This issue has since been resolved (mostly), but the fallout still exists.

The 7 champions who were and still are affected by this are:

Bard Cassiopeia Ekko Ezreal RekSai TahmKench Tristana

These short paragraphs can be considered as canon explanations of the champions in question.

Champions with IoW ommissions but no updated bios

As a sort of stop gap until these champions could receive proper updates, several champions had slight re-wording done to their current lore. This removed the IoW from these lores, and was intended to make them “passable” to a degree; this lore is good enough to be considered canon right now, though changes will be made in the future.

Currently there are 16 champions with lore in this state:

Annie Blitzcrank Caitlyn DrMundo Galio Irelia JarvanIV KogMaw Nidalee Riven Rumble Talon Urgot Varus Vayne XinZhao

While this lore can be considered canon this is subject to change when these champions are revisited for a proper update. The tone and general events described in the lore are the main things to take away, not every single little detail. Currently we don’t know if other older champions with outdated lore will be revisited in this way, as we’ve only seen two waves of this kind of lore update and the last was many months ago at the time of me typing this.

Champions with lore that never mentioned the IoW in the first place

To summarise this point there are champions who exist that never had the IoW or the League written in to the lore even when it was still canon, or were rewritten to not include it before the IoW was removed, and as such their lore is much more reliable (though not perfect) than most. The majority of these champions were released in 2013 or the second half of 2012, but there are a handful of others too.

The 34 champions who fall in to this category are:

Aatrox Anivia Ashe Darius Draven Garen Gragas Jayce Jinx Karma Kassadin Katarina Khazix Lissandra Lucian MasterYi Nunu Olaf Quinn Rengar Sejuani Shyvana Soraka Syndra Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Vi Volibear Warwick Yasuo Zac Zed Zyra

Again, these champions have lore that could be considered canon, but it isn’t totally “safe” so to speak. Diana’s lore has been changed and she was one champion included in this category, while Zed’s lore has had questions raised about it because of lore brought forward by Jhin.

Take every other champion bio not listed above with heavy grains of salt, even the ones you think you know and are confident about.


#Ok...but WHERE IS THIS LORE?!#

Long story short: on the website. A champion’s website page has a dedicated lore section, and their full lore is listed there. Here’s the relevant links to all champions that have had their lore updated to the current format:

Fiora: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/fiora/ Gangplank: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/gangplank/ Graves: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/graves/ Hecarim: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/hecarim/ Illaoi: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/illaoi/ Kalista: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/kalista/ Karthus: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/karthus/ Kindred: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/kindred/ Miss Fortune: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/missfortune/ Mordekaiser: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/mordekaiser/ Poppy:http://gameinfo.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/poppy/ Thresh: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/thresh/ Twisted Fate: http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/twistedfate/ Jhin: http://gameinfo.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/jhin/#champion-lore Shen: http://gameinfo.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/shen/#champion-lore Ryze: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/ryze-bio Kled: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/kled-bio Ivern: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/ivern-bio Yorick: http://gameinfo.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/yorick/#champion-lore

Some of you may be saying “Wait that’s not enough! You listed more didn’t you?” This is because some champions, usually those who were a part of a regional event have updated lore, but since the site’s still wonky in some areas haven’t had their main website lore updated yet. Their new lores still exist though on those sites:

Mount Targon (Aurelion Sol, Diana, Leona, Pantheon and Taric)

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/mount-targon/story.html

Shurima (Amumu, Azir, Nasus, Rammus, Renekton, Sivir, Skarner, Taliyah, Xerath)

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/shurima/intro

The Shadow Isles (Yorick, Elise, Maokai, Evelynn and the Shadow Isles champions who were updated in 2015)

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/shadow-isles#/?_k=cr984n


#Ok so there’s bios and stuff, cool, but what about stories not tied to these?#

Riot’s been putting out lore in various formats, and have released a small amount of stories lately that have progressed the lore for a few champions, or present lore in a new format. Since these can be difficult to find I’m just going to link a bunch of lore specific to champions that’s not part of their bios, short stories involving multiple champions and anything else lore related:

Bard: The Wonder Above and Mountain http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-preview/wonder-above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX8iSobsKTY

Ekko: Seconds and Chronobreak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEpp9lkfxA http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/ekko-comic/

Tahm Kench: The River King https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9RM4HwwoKs

Kindred: A Good Death http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/good-death

Illaoi: Trial of the Kraken Priestess http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/champions/trial-of-the-kraken-priestess

Poppy: A Hero’s Calling http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/poppy-comic/

Ahri: Stray Fox (This story disappeared so the link’s to where it was thankfully archived by the community) http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ahri/Background

Jhin: “Mind of the Virtuoso” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4-BgDEy2AE

Aurelion Sol: “The Star Forger returns” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAAnY_L4Pp4

Taric: “Downfall”, “The Ascent” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1O0R0t6zdI http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/taric-comic/

Taliyah: “The Bird and the Branch”, “Homecoming” http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/taliyah-short-story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1nRIX-qvbo

Kled: “The Reunion” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw46WPuXMk0&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends

Ivern: “Friend of the Forest” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6PHb5xTO64&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends

Burning Tides (Short Story) http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/bilgewater/#act-1

Shadow and Fortune (Short Story and follow up to Burning Tides) http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/shadow-and-fortune/chapter-1.html

Bloodline (Short Story) http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/shurima/story

Princeling’s Lament (Poem) http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/shadow-isles#/the-princelings-lament?_k=kbazi4

That covers everything made after the big IoW removal, but other lore still exists from before then that can be considered pretty reliable in this new canon. The champions you see here do not have lore in the current format, so I won’t link to it specifically, but it still should be up on their champion pages.

The Freljord http://promo.leagueoflegends.com/en/freljord/ http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Journey_into_the_Freljord

Aatrox: An Ancient Mystery in Runeterra (Posted the wiki version since the original was a forum piece) http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/An_Ancient_Mystery_In_Runeterra

Yasuo: A Sword Without a Sheath, Unforgiven http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/8513/ http://promo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/yasuo/

Vel’Koz: First Contact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyb2KC-q7ls&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends

Braum: Trials of the Poro, The Feates of Braum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvYxkyQFZU&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends http://promo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/braum/# (The Feats of Braum seems to be broken, but essentially recounted Braum’s current colour text in a visual and auditory format. Maybe it’ll work for you, I’m not sure.)

Gnar: Discovering the Link http://promo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/gnar/

Kalista: The Pledge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnT8jVCyh_E&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends

Rek'Sai: The Terror Beneath, Scourge of the Desert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcB-FreSnG8&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/reksai-scourge-desert


#Ok, so what’s next for the lore?#

Right now? We dunno concretely. At the end of 2015 we were informed about our trips to Mount Targon and Shurima, but with the Shadow Isles having passed we don’t know which part of the lore will be up next for a big update. Beyond not knowing specifically where we’re going it’s business as usual; Riot will continue to update champion lore to the current format as time goes on, focusing on new champions, champions in line for VGUs, champions with broken lore and champions who’re part of a region they’re visiting.

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Right that should cover everything I wanted to get to, but if you have further questions, feel free to list them below! Also for some of my astute lore colleagues out there, is there anything I missed? And finally if there’s anything anyone’s not sure on I’ll elaborate as best I can for you, just ask away.

No wait not finally. RIOTERS! If there’s any inaccurate information here, just come in here and yell at me for being awful and I’ll remedy it as best I can!

(Also if someone could enlighten me on how to increase font sizes on the boards, that'd be great! It'd probably help me with formatting this sodding thing.)

Well that’s it for me for now, hopefully this was useful to you dear reader!

91 Comments

RiotBioluminescence22 votes

For font/text sizes, use the pound/hash (#) symbol in various quantities.

One gets you: #This size text.

Two in a row get you: ##Two hashtag sized text.

And then weirdly, nothing changes for multiples 3, 4, or 5, until you get to six in a row: ######Six in a row makes for comically teeny text.

Also, typo on the "Feates" of Braum ;)

Looks pretty solid otherwise!

[EDIT] Do you have the Rek'Sai promo content too? Might be handy to cross reference with Tattersall's thread too. Two heads better than, etc. etc.

mr Boombastic7872 votes

How do I upvote a post? Can I even upvote a post? I am a little lost here on the boards plz help me summoner 13 Bring me clarity summoner 13

RiotBioluminescence24 votes

At the top of the post, to the left of the posters name and the title of the post, is a number between two up and down chevron shaped arrows. (At time of writing, it had a 4 there.)

If you click the upward pointing arrow, then you upvote the post (ideally because you think it's interesting and contributes to discussion).

Clicking the downward arrow, downvotes, and should usually only be done if you think that the post legitimately won't create interesting conversations (it shouldn't be used just because you don't like what they're saying - but if what they're saying is against the rules, then there's a 'report' button at the bottom of their post).

TeCoolMage25 votes

(it shouldn't be used just because you don't like what they're saying

This needs to be stickied, put on a frame, and written in the sky with flaming letters

Aeszarck2 votes

{quoted}

For font/text sizes, use the pound/hash (#) symbol in various quantities.

One gets you: #This size text.

Two in a row get you: ##Two hashtag sized text.

And then weirdly, nothing changes for multiples 3, 4, or 5, until you get to six in a row: ######Six in a row makes for comically teeny text.

One correction: there are in fact changes for multiples of 3, 4, and 5 pounds signs! They just don't show up on the Boards view. Boards view: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/2HQsiMRl-whatos-the-best-way-a-player-can-help-the-team?comment=000300000000 News view: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/community-spotlight/whats-best-way-player-can-help-team (there's no permalink in the news view, so you'll have to scroll down to see my comment)

As you can see, in the News view, the pound signs do change the text when put in quantities of 3, 4, and 5, just only in the News section!

(Also, line breaks look different in the News view and in the Boards view!)

ABlueQuaker13 votes

I don't care how much lore a champion supposedly has. If I have to Google search to find it, Riot's doing a pretty shit job. Riot really needs to integrate ALL of the lore in the soon-to-be-released(tm) new client so that it's nicely sorted into the champion bios. Make bios for Places and Events if the lore doesn't belong to a specific champion.

Whyte Lyon3 votes

Is there an intended due date for the new client, like end of this year/beginning of next or could the wait be potentially longer?

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

They just activated ranked on the Alpha, so I'd say it's getting close.

GerAvos10 votes

Why aren't the champ bios in the client?

lightdragoon883 votes

3 reasons.

  1. They want people to play in the client, not sit there reading pages of lore.

  2. They are updating the client, not much sense to put all this in the client that going away in a few months.

  3. They want people who want to read the lore to visit the site here and while reading it, find new stuff.

Dextix LT9 votes
  1. So basically, find in game lore, outside the game? Yeah...... Thats a good idea....... It really worked for destiny, didnt it.......

  2. Because adding text to a client is so hard.....

  3. When a person searches for lore, they want the lore, not esports or some shit. What new stuff should they find that they cant find in the client? The forums?

Vistha Kai6 votes

Needless to say each and every one of those reasons is extremely idiotic.

Finding anything on the Boards is... I don't even know how to describe it. You can make a thread, the very next second copy-paste the thread's title into the search box and find shit. That's how great of a database the Boards are.

I and I'm sure many others don't give a singular fuck about "finding new stuff" on this bovine excrement excuse for a game forum. When navigating your website is easier through Google, you should know you fucked up vastly.

Also, is putting a god-forsaken hyperlink into champion's bio in the client THAT hard? For the love of Sithis, use your brain for once, people.

lightdragoon884 votes

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Also, is putting a god-forsaken hyperlink into champion's bio in the client THAT hard? For the love of Sithis, use your brain for once, people.

They are/should be putting in hyperlink to the lore pages in the new client.

Vistha Kai4 votes

There is literally nothing preventing them to do it now, except their own ego.

lightdragoon882 votes

That....I agree with you.

Sharjo3 votes

Basically the client's a load of shit and in its current state sucks for showing champion bios as they currently stand.

The hope is the client update fixes that.

Dextix LT4 votes

Even with the current client, it does not prevent text from being included (How they did in the first place then????).

I always see this "We can't due to the client" as an excuse for every problem Riot has. Its their scapegoat every time.

Sharjo3 votes

I mean yeah, it's totally possible that Riot was just like "We just don't wanna use the client for lore. Fuck it." In that way I suppose they'd rather do it in the way they think is best than in a way they see as sub-optimal.

In the end it's their decision, and though I'll definetly advocate lore in the client as you do, I at least get Riot's stand point, even if it is just "We don't like the client and don't wanna use it".

Dextix LT9 votes

A good thread. But the lore is still crap.

Lets look at what we have, a series of disjointed stories.

There is no cohesive world, or anything that resembles it, we don't even have a fucking map for how long already?

The lore is moving at a snails pace, there have been great books written in a shorter time span that that.

IOW was removed because of lazyness and lack of creativity. It was not even removed with lore reasons, it was just retconed! Retcon is the tool of a lazy and uncreative writer.

At this rate, till we get any good lore we will have to wait 10-20 years, which is actually sad, when fanfictions that are of better quality and lenght are written faster and for free.

What is even sadder is that this is how we have to get our lore in a good and condensed manner, from a forum post......

The narrative of this game is long dead, whatever left now is a husk while Riot gives no fucks about their lore.

jama6555 votes

The lores not in game gotta go on your browser destiny is that you ?

mr Boombastic7874 votes

You deserve a cookie! I am a kinda new player (have been playing since ekkos release) and I didn´t know all of this, so thank you! You are doing all of us lore nerds a big favor! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] But what about champions that wont get a vgu and deserves more lore and don't follow the current format? When will riot update Viktors or Twitchs lore for example? Maybe in the Zaun lore update (HYPE) if it will ever be one. I would love to se a lore event with Ekko, Viktor and Mundo and maybe Zac! Ether way good joob!

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Sharjo2 votes

On champions who're not getting a VGU, that's not an issue; they WILL be updated, just at a different cadence.

To explain a bit further the rework department at riot has several teams, and two main VGU teams. Both of these teams have dedicated narrative rioters, and as such will always have updated lore when they're put out.

Champions who're not getting a VGU are being worked on by different rioters, mostly those who're part of the "Foundations" team; the guys responsible for the main regional lore events and for doing a lot of world building internally which allows for this lore to come about.

At least one member of Foundations, namely Mr. Dinopawz, has expressed an interest in visiting Zaun, so it's very much on narrative's minds!

RiotBioluminescence4 votes

Hear ye, hear ye - let it be known that this thread, wot was stickied, is now being unstickied. It's an awesome piece of collation, but hopefully the new Universe site takes the burden from Sharjo because us Rioters have finally got all our world/story stuff in one handy place to find.

Iwinatlife423 votes

Sharjo sometimes it feels like you know more about the lore than the writers do

Vistha Kai6 votes

However he's fighting a lost cause sadly.

At this rate we aren't going to get any meaningful lore for years and everything is a subject to change until then.

Riot said Institute of War limited their... opportunities at story-telling, but the fact stands that working around the constrains of IoW borne more fruit in a year, than not having any for the last... four.

The lore still looks like a bomb crater, there is no world map or even a freaking medium to distribute lore, because Riot refuses to use the Esports League client.

Iwinatlife424 votes

Basically they wanted to start throwing more random Champions at the game and didnt want to figure out how or why they are in the League

Vistha Kai3 votes

That's the TL;DR of the "Lore" team's job for the past 4 years, yes.

SchaakaKon2 votes

Isnt that basically the job of a writer?

Sharjo2 votes

Well it's not really a lost cause since there's progress being made. If anything it's more like a long, arduous campaign than anything else.

And hey I still enjoy this campaign so y'know, not gonna stop any time soon. Got a 2016 tl;dr to write after all!

Vistha Kai5 votes

It was a lost cause when they decided to take the easy way out and not follow up on it firmly. It didn't have to be "a long, arduous campaign". Riot made it to be like this.

But whatever floats your boat.

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

I'm really hoping for an Ionian lore update next year. I know there has been a few small updates here and there between Jhin and Ivern releases, but those they didn't really cover ALL of the Ionian champs, especially the ones who still have mention of the IoW in there lores. At the very least I'm hoping for:

  • an explanation of Wuju as a whole and how it relates to the rest of Ionia (It's been mentioned they act as protectors against highwaymen and militia for Ionia, but not much else)

  • A confirmation of whether or not the forest Ivern was reborn in is the same as the one Ahri is from (and possibly Wukong depending on how his lore update goes.)

  • more interaction between the different groups within Ionia.

  • A confirmation of the relationship between Ionia and Bandle City, as I believe someone's lore mentions how they are allies.

  • and of course, updates for the Ionian champs who need lore updates. there are a lot of champs from Ionia, a good portion of which still mention the IoW/LoL. Then there is the group that doesn't mention them like MasterYi who need more to their lore in general.

cleeby3 votes

Couldn't agree more. A huge Ionia-Update is just what we Need right now. I'd also like to see a small update on the Kumungujungle, maybe with a small update on what Zyras up to. I also wanna see more about the ongoing fight between our beloved Ninjas. Maybe even a new Champion - the shadow order has one member less then the rest of the kinkou order.

l Helios l2 votes

Would plans for an update to Noxian lore follow the eventual Swain rework, considering his role as basically leader?

Other question would be would Noxus lore go hand-in-hand with a Demacia update considering their interaction?

lightdragoon882 votes

I see this all the time as well.

And a lot of the time when I point them to these lore pages they response with: "I don't consider that lore"

UnbornHeretic2 votes

Zilean needs some lore fixes but I think he would have a more interesting lore because he is currently not allied with anyone or anything. He is also not a wandering independent like bard, ivern, or evelynn so I would really like to see where Riot takes him. He also needs a VU really badly.

Sharjo1 votes

Indeed he does. Hopefully they'll give Zilean and his home of Urtistan love in the future!

SchaakaKon1 votes

A lot of the recent champs have had mentions of the Void and void creatures in their vo's. Since the Shadow Isles didnt receive a lore I'm willing to wager that the Void is going to be the next major event (like Freljord).

(along with Urtistan and how it became the epicenter of the Void)

RiotRiotJaredan2 votes

I've been away a while, but [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Sharjo1 votes

Glad to see you back Jaredan!

RiotRiotJaredan2 votes

Cheers!

Dcolewizard1 votes

So where is the Fizz ? He has a very short paragraph lore too. Even teemo has more lore than him. Such a shame.

Sharjo1 votes

Fizz's lore hasn't actually changed since his release, and is very much up for updating. Teemo's in the same boat.

Dcolewizard1 votes

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Fizz's lore hasn't actually changed since his release, and is very much up for updating. Teemo's in the same boat.

I know that lol, I was just wondering why he wasn't in your main page of information because I mean, it's Fizz, he needs to be EVERYWHERE!

10Tickler1 votes

Namely, in a Trash compactor.

With no Escape.

Shadowkirby141 votes

For some champions that don't have a place or lore, I think I've managed to place most of them in their respective locations.

Brand Brand: Shurima, Freljord (they'll probably explain how he came to be soon)

Chogath Cho'Gath: The Void

Jax Jax: Ionia

Kayle Kayle and Morgana Morgana: Possibly responsible for the Protectorate (Stag) vs. Magelord (Owl) war.

Malphite Malphite: Independent, but he might be a free roamer around the Great Barrier. He is a walking mountain after all.

Nocturne Nocturne: Shadow Isles, Ionia

Orianna Orianna: Piltover

Shaco Shaco: Noxus, The Glade

Zilean Zilean: Urtistan, Piltover?

So far only Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks has nowhere to go because he has nothing to work with. Unless they can create a new place for him to bloom or put him in a minor area like Annie Annie or Zilean Zilean, he's pretty much nonexistent.

Sharjo1 votes

I can see Fiddlesticks as being independent too, as sort of an enigmatic cultural omen seen across Runeterra who heralds great disasters to come. He could definetly end up being one of those champions with mysterious origins but a strong cultural identity across Runeterra, in a similar way to Kindred and Bard.

Shadowkirby141 votes

I kinda see Fiddlesticks in a different way than just another mysterious champion that nobody knows where they came from. It all depends on how Riot will handle him, even though it's been over 3 years since they've talked about his lore.

I have written down my direction on what Fiddlesticks could be. If you like, I could share it with you.

Duckies1241 votes

how come luxs lore is never mentioned ecpechilly her judgment and lore Lux

Sharjo1 votes

Because her lore still mentions the League and hasn't been changed for the new canon.

SeductiveGrandpa1 votes

I love the amount of effort you guys put into this, its nice to have lore back but I have one question:

Will we ever have an explained relation between a Champion and their related champions? Like for example: Gnar's friends or "related champions" are Lulu, Heimerdinger, and Rengar. Now while these 3 may be self explanatory (Lulu would definitely be friends with someone like gnar, Heimerdinger would probably want to do tests on Gnar, Rengar was directly involved with him) it would be nice if these champions had some sort of quick connection statement. Like: Gnar met Lulu shortly after re-awakening and has been friends ever since. And could you please change Related Champions into something along the lines of (Friends) and (Foes), maybe give the champion shown a Red Text if its against the champion your looking at, and a blue (for friend) or a yellow (for neutral).

So for example: Garen -Blah Blah Blah Hides in bushes around Demacia and then beats up bad guys- Related Champions: (Friends & Foes)

Darius Darius (Red Text) Against Garen because hes demacian Lux Lux (Blue Text) -Garen's sister (blah blah blah personal relationship as siblings while growing up) Fiora Fiora (Yellow Text) -Is interested in Garen's fighting capabilities or some shit like that.

Its nice to have such a nice-looking updated place to find new lore, Thanks for all your hard work and effort Rioters!

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