What Still Needs Updates?

Dreamspitter··3 votes·1,036 views

Swain We know he's scheduled

In my opinion I would include the following (in some order)

Blitzcrank Fiddlesticks Chogath Nautilus DrMundo Jax Nunu Zilean Nocturne

That's my opinion, visually. Then most heroes need VO updates, but that can come after visuals.

What I sort of wonder is what comes after that?

I mean the way this happened in the first place, was newer heroes looking better because of advancements, right? Wont it start all over again?

35 Comments

KoKoboto7 votes

I'd like Riot to stop making new champions and just update old ones. A lot of champions could just use some visual updates.

Morgana Caitlyn Pantheon Zilean Akali Malphite Nunu Kayle Singed Orianna DrMundo Brand Corki Shaco Udyr Irelia Leblanc Nidalee TwistedFate Vladimir Rammus Xerath Fiddlesticks Blitzcrank Chogath Jax Nocturne

And some of these champions could use some game play updates that are Xin/Azir to Warwick level

Oh and Tahm Kench needs to get constant VO updates for new things in the game :^)

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Not gonna happen and I think that is good. Please keep in mind that some people are just as hyped for new champions as you might be for reworks.

There are still alot of archetypes not represented in this game and I want to see them become reality.

GreenLore2 votes

Well at leat they'll put more focus on VGUs next year. They said that we'll likely see a 50/50 split between VGUs and new champions in 2018(or maybe even 60/40)

Digielf1 votes

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I'd like Riot to stop making new champions and just update old ones. A lot of champions could just use some visual updates.

Morgana Caitlyn Pantheon Zilean Akali Malphite Nunu Kayle Singed Orianna DrMundo Brand Corki Shaco Udyr Irelia Leblanc Nidalee TwistedFate Vladimir Rammus Xerath Fiddlesticks Blitzcrank Chogath Jax Nocturne

And some of these champions could use some game play updates that are Xin/Azir to Warwick level

Oh and Tahm Kench needs to get constant VO updates for new things in the game :^)

You realize that a lot of the champions you listed already got visual updates? Nidalee, Singed, Twisted Fate etc

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-update/champion-update-singed http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2798885&page=1#post31414244 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2634351

KoKoboto1 votes

Yes I do know that. Twisted Fate was one of the first champions in the game along with Nidalee. Doesn't change the fact that they just need visual updates cause that was still YEARS ago xD

Digielf1 votes

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Yes I do know that. Twisted Fate was one of the first champions in the game along with Nidalee. Doesn't change the fact that they just need visual updates cause that was still YEARS ago xD

It doesn't matter if it was years ago, if they need a second visual update when they already got one then that means there is something seriously wrong with League of Legends structure in the first place because no other moba needs to update champion models and multiple times, not even Dota 1 which was made like more than a decade ago.

KoKoboto1 votes

Glad you notice this problem as well

A Superb Villain3 votes

You said what, so I assume the question extends beyond champions.

Bandle City and the Void.

GreenLore3 votes

We know that at least Akali Chogath DrMundo Fiddlesticks Irelia Kayle&Morgana(as a dual update) Mordekaiser Nunu Pantheon Rammus Shaco Tryndamere Volibear are or at least were at some point on the VGU-list.(though the list is ever changing) And I do think that all of them need one.

JooshBox1 votes

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We know that at least Akali Chogath DrMundo Fiddlesticks Irelia Kayle&Morgana(as a dual update) Mordekaiser Nunu Pantheon Rammus Shaco Tryndamere Volibear are or at least were at some point on the VGU-list.(though the list is ever changing) And I do think that all of them need one.

Is Chogath still due for an update? I thought the change to his Vorpal Spikes and Feast work was the update.

GreenLore1 votes

Small gameplay updates like these rarely replace the full VGU.

Look at Swain for example.The guy got a gameplay update during the mage update in 2016. Yet he is currently in the work for a full VGU,because said gameplay update was never supposed to replace his VGU,it was just something to improve him in the meantime.

iLBGAMing2 votes

Varus

Varus lore needs some clarity, as there's a lot of confusion for what he is now. Some are saying he is Darkin, some are saying his bow is the Darkin, and so on.. But in terms of visual update and even maybe gameplay update, I would like to also see a visual update to Varus'es particle effects to give a more blight like feel, if you get what I mean.

Also looking at the list of champions, I agree with all of them, Nunu in particular..

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Varus

Varus lore needs some clarity, as there's a lot of confusion for what he is now. Some are saying he is Darkin, some are saying his bow is the Darkin, and so on.. But in terms of visual update and even maybe gameplay update, I would like to also see a visual update to Varus'es particle effects to give a more blight like feel, if you get what I mean.

Also looking at the list of champions, I agree with all of them, Nunu in particular..

Well interactions with Kayn are leaning that way. I hope we wont have to wait 4 years.

iLBGAMing1 votes

4 years? I am sensing that there's a joke here, that I don't get lol

Dreamspitter1 votes

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4 years? I am sensing that there's a joke here, that I don't get lol

Aatrox RELEASE DATE: 2013-06-13

Kayn RELEASE DATE: 2017-07-12

4 years. And 1 month.

There was always supposed to be 5 Darkin. Think about that.

Is that funny to you?

[sg-janna]

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Definitely yes. As long as there isn't a darkin rifle, I doubt that the next coming will catch my interest. ^^

Digielf1 votes

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Varus

Varus lore needs some clarity, as there's a lot of confusion for what he is now. Some are saying he is Darkin, some are saying his bow is the Darkin, and so on.. But in terms of visual update and even maybe gameplay update, I would like to also see a visual update to Varus'es particle effects to give a more blight like feel, if you get what I mean.

Also looking at the list of champions, I agree with all of them, Nunu in particular..

Varus has exactly the same visuals with the new champions it's crazy to even think that he needs a visual update

Dio ßrando2 votes

Mordekaiser ?

Blood Magicks1 votes

This is one of the champs that actually have immense potential and occupy an important niche and are held back by how muddy their early concept was.

IMO far more important than any of OPs champs, some of which are as new as S2.

jinxedleblanc2 votes

VO and Visual Updates for Blitzcrank and Orianna. Lore update for Soraka and Ziggs. We need these desperately.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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VO and Visual Updates for Blitzcrank and Orianna. Lore update for Soraka and Ziggs. We need these desperately.

I thought they updated ziggs lore?

jinxedleblanc1 votes

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I thought they updated ziggs lore?

Nope. Only changed his region to Zaun.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Nope. Only changed his region to Zaun.

What do you want out of it that's not in it now?

http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/ziggs/

jinxedleblanc1 votes

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What do you want out of it that's not in it now?

http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/ziggs/

Well now his lore makes no sense, it's only 2 paragraphs, has no short story, has no note of Jinx or Zaun or anything at all besides Piltover and Heimerdinger.

Jackom12 votes

Akali Amumu Chogath Corki DrMundo Fiddlesticks Ezreal Gragas Jax Janna Irelia Kayle Nocturne Nautilus Morgana Mordekaiser Malzahar Nunu Pantheon Olaf Riven Skarner Shaco Rumble Udyr Tryndamere MonkeyKing Volibear Veigar Zilean

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Rammus why is everyone forgetting that poor guy? [sg-soraka]

Jackom11 votes

I did recieve a texture update though. 2 years ago?. And a kit update this year. I didn't put anivia for the same reasons.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Then I don't really understand why you put Skarner, Malzahar and Janna in there. They are visually better than Rammus IMO and got kit updates recently as well.

Jackom11 votes

Skarner's kit is way worse than Rammus's. He just needs to be remade from the ground up, like galio. Malzahar's as a clunky and one dimensional kit as well. Despite the texture update, he looks worse than rammus. Janna too has a bad model, and the mini-rework she just got is more to make her somewhat balanced, an looking at her win rate, it didn't actually improve the situation.

Rammus is in a way better spot than those three, he mainly needs a new VO and some new animation. The model isn't that bad right now, and kit holds up decently. He's not a balancing nightmare like the other guys. If I put rammus there i'd have had to put kassadin, shen and fiora too. Sure those three aren't the best in terms of balance, but don't look quite as bad as malz, skarner and janna. Nor are their kits as clunky and/or simple as those of janna/malz/skarner.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I disagree and I get the feeling that the same goes for Riot, since Rammus is mentioned in the tier 1 list for VGUs, while Skarner, Janna and Malzahar aren't.

Skarner's kit has some problems, but so has Rammus, Rammus' main damage source comes from enemies attacking him, aka not knowing what to do against him. And Skarner's model is way more modern than Rammus'.

Malzahar's model is pretty modern as well, the biggest problem with his kit is his frustrating ultimate. He is a candidate for a VGU, but definitely not tier 1 material. Maybe even just a gameplay update.

Dreamspitter1 votes

Shaco And yes...... He's kind of a joke right now.

Cetri1 votes

Virtually every yordle has been left in Lore Limbo except for Poppy and Kled, though I think Kennen, Corki, Veigar, and Lulu deserve an update the most, since we have an idea of what Ziggs and Donger are up to and the others by comparison don't have severely outdated lore (and Tris has a short story, so there's that too).

Garentheon1 votes

How could you forget Pantheon

ZER0 21 votes

Morgana needs one terribly bad

sumerska1 votes

I hope the next one is Akali. As an ex-Akali main, I feel she's too linear and her kit has little to no complexity. :C

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