Champion Reveal: Xayah the Rebel and Rakan the Charmer
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I don't like it. It seems designed to be functioning at their best potential when the other is on the same team which would lead them to be more annoying to balance outside that situational power.
Personally I don't like the idea of abilities that gain extra effects when targeting or near specific champions like that.
I agree.
Situational power is nice, as it allows champions to carve for themselves a particular niche, but when it becomes too situational that power is overshadowed by more reliable alternatives.
While it would be a mistake to say they aren't stronger together, I don't think their kits are so strong together that they can't function apart. I'm not too concerned about those very niche situations, the bonuses they get don't seem to be gamebreakingly good.
My concern is that if they good enough to function apart, they may become too strong when together. Leading to nerfs that ruin their solo play or make duo play not worth it.
If it becomes an issue they can always just remove their together bonuses and focus on them as solo champions.
but the together parts of their kit are part of their character, it is part of the both of them and makes them unique amongst the others.
I agree, and I'd like them to stay, but what we've seen of each of them so far is actually pretty unique. Especially Rakan's kit.
Realistically if needed they can just leave the recall feature in. It is a nice touch, but not strong from a gameplay point.
There is also the option of weakening the buffs they get to each other, which still preserves it but isn't a huge power spike.
They could always nerf the W proc Rakan gets from Xayah, I doubt Rakan being able to get to his completely immobile adc from farther away is ever going to be that broken.
If they are too strong together (which, even though they clearly are, I don't think they'll be that much stronger), then Riot can easily focus on the bonuses they have together. In fact, it would be a nerf towards Rakan specifically, because he gets 2 bonuses when with Xayah, and Xayah doesn't get much in return (except a better support).
To be honest the buffs are pretty much worthless. Xayah's is weak when paired with him. His allows for a much easier time, but they won't be insane by any standard. If anything she'll need to see some nerfs to her Ratio's and he'll need to see some CD increases.
While I agree limiting power based on specific champions is a nightmare for balance, I don't think their interactions are that bad. Rakan has a farther dash range to Xayah while Xayah is able to give Rakan her auto Buff. It could be worse, but I hope they don't do any more of this in the future. Let these two be a special case.
Actually, the reason why I don't like it is the opposite - the only thing dual about them is the hype and their theme. They barely have anything that relevant connecting their gameplay in their kits as they focused on simply them being Support-ADC duolane.
So I am equally disappointed as with Kindred. It's illusion of potential to bring something very new.
I'm very disappointed that their release skins aren't "tango Xyah & rakan". with a tango dance animation the works together like their combined recall. [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Agreed. Missed opportunity right there.
Hopefully we'll get "Sweethearts" or "Tango" for Valentines day next year. It would pretty much be perfect.
Hmm... I think they both look cool, but I'm not a fan of how they get boosts if they lane together. I get that they're lovers or something, and work as a pair, but it feels a little like Riot is forcing them to lane together so they can do their best, and that's gonna be limiting.
Still gonna play the shit out of Zayah, though. Girl looks sick as hell.
Looks like they get a boost if they're together but nothing as significant as kallista with her oaths worn so I think it's ok. I'm super excited personally I also think Xayah looks Hella fun
I wish they had more bonuses together.
No, that would be pretty bad design, as that woudl force them together even more. At least in my opinion.
I don't know all their bonuses. 1 skill that goes to the other. 1 skill with increased range. Apparently a Recall bonus.
The balance would be off, but I am thinking more for fun than in a competitive sense where solo lane and duo lane they need to be competitive, which might make the duo too strong.
Yeah, but it's still not super great either way. Remember that you can, as xayah, just leave rakan to recall and continue to fight, then just hop on at the last moment. That's gonna be a major change.
Magic is supposed to be scary. Love is supposed to hurt.
You don't know the half of it.
Edit:
THAT RECALL IS DISGUSTING. HOW DARE RIOT CREATE SUCH AN ABOMINABLE DISPLAY OF AFFECTION.
Hey it puts them right next to each other, so much easier to stop two recalls at once.
http://i.imgur.com/aVQiNu4.gif?noredirect
You are right!
It will be hard deciding who to use Jhin's fourth shot on or who to use Zed's Death Mark on.
Proceeds to laugh like Jhin/Zed (Maniacally)
How about a spotlight for them both?
Send the police kayle for good measure?
I see no mention of needing to bring both champs into a queue (thank god), plus I've been looking for a slippery adc and a mobile support. I might just pick both of them up. I'm a little worried about balance though, one of 3 things can happen.
So far they seem to have decent synergy, but nothing that a different champion can't fill. Rakan can hold them down to let Xayah get a few more feathers down, but that is nothing an alistar or Leona couldn't do too.
Rakan also very much seems to fit with most ADC's and champs in general. He provides healing, a bit of CC, and shields. The only thing I can say is that he does best with mid range champs. He likes to jump to them to save champs with shorter range but prefers them over melee champs since he is ranged (Barely at a measly 300 range, but still ranged)
So synergy doesn't seem to be an issue of needing the other to work. They are both flexible with pretty simple requirements for their partner in lane, they just both fulfill those requirements in each other. Realistically a Rakan would work just as well with a Vayne minus a bit of jump range.
Outside of that they seem to be perfectly fine paired together, and so far Xayah especially seems in a really good place. A similar feel and flow to lucian but much less stat checky or feast/famine. That nature makes it so that a lot of her power comes from her personal skills, rather than her kit power. That means giving a bit of her kit power to Rakan probably wont be overbearing since he doesn't make great use of it and he is the only one actually gaining from their combo.
He doesn't do great with the AS/damage boost that she gives him and he is naturally mobile enough that the extra jump range shouldn't be crazy. At most I would expect some jump scare plays as he flies out of a bush to her then knocks you up, but once again his CC is delayed so it can be avoided.
sweet, another ADC who gets to become the "king/queen of kiting"
i'm sure this will make for some amazing interactive gameplay

I don't think Xayah has a single dash in her kit. The only thing mobility related is the short burst of MS she gets from the W... and she needs to auto for it to proc.
Youre right. Looks at Miss Fortune But no one cares.
Her kiting is more along the pattern of jinx, caitlyn, and ashe. Less about escapes, and more about hampering.
Does anything make you happy?
an illaoi skin would make me happy
Same.
An Illaoi skin would make ANYONE happy
don't you ever get sick of being such a whiny brat
Good to see the support's mobile, that's one long held dream of mine finally answered. A shame they both look like self insert fan characters.
This. I posted a topic a while back about a mobile, squishy, AD support, and it seems I may get my wish (except on the AD).
This. I posted a topic a while back about a mobile, squishy, AD support, and it seems I may get my wish (except on the AD).
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How are they self-insert, and technically I think a few Lol champs qualify as that.

Can Xayah's Champion icon be reversed? It looks a bit too similar to 
makes you wonder if we'll get a new champion next month
double release may mean no new champion in may leaving june rework of 
Next month will probably be mid season
So are they two different champions? Someone clarify ♡~♡ (Currently have limited Internet)
Rakan is a mobile support and Xayah is an immobile but AoE focused marksman. They're separate champions so you don't need both of them on your team, but they have slight bonuses when together.
... Rakan is a bird person?
wat.
http://www.summoners.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Fire-Chimera-Rakan.png
(On another thought, anyone think of bird person immediately?)