@ Riot: Pronunciation Rules & Translations

Dreamspitter··8 votes·1,058 views

Okay. Something I noticed in Rek'Sai's lore/story........... Now at FIRST we were all used the following:

  • Cho'gath
  • Kha'zix
  • Kog'maw
  • Vel'koz

And you know Rek'sai was nothing unusual to add to that list...until I read Rek'sai's lore. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/reksai-scourge-desert

Here's the problem I have -this trope. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunctuationShaker

Now *Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn * and

#THAT is ok.

It's special. It's an alien tongue, and very Lovecraftian. Buuut....how many NEW words do we introduce that are mundane things for Runeterrans?

  • Bel’zhun
  • Elujrav’i’
  • Saih’kharash’i
  • Eka’Sul

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay- this would now seemingly infringe on the Lovecraftian styled names for void creatures and seem to imply...that all of them at some point or another passed into Runeterra from the same place (probably Icanthia) and that their unusual names are all actually

#NORMAL.

They even translate part of the name "Xer'sai" and explain that "Sai"

We have entered the “sai,” the rolling plains of sand and sharp stones that define the harsh, southern desert

What I am wondering is

  • What ARE these apostrophe's for? Do they represent foreign punctuation or are they actual sounds and if so WHAT? As the wiki notes

Arabic has 2 t's, along with 2 s's, 2 d's, and 3 th's. The t pronounced with the tongue behind the alveolar ridge, is usually transliterated with a dot under the t. Since most keyboards can't easily form that, people tend to replace the dot with a preceding apostrophe.

  • What do the names of the other void champions mean, are they ALL translatable? And if this means their names were GIVEN to them by humans...what is a REAL void language like?

8 Comments

cshakes1 votes

Currently it seems like Shuriman punctuation states that compound words are formed with apostrophes rather than hyphens. Eg. Whale-road = whale'road. That-which-has-come = that'which'has'come.

I don't think that it's a glottal stop, since I can't pronounce glottal stops there. :/ Sure, if it were Cho'Ath, I could, but the extra consonant makes things hard.

Dreamspitter1 votes

{quoted} Currently it seems like Shuriman punctuation states that compound words are formed with apostrophes rather than hyphens. Eg. Whale-road = whale'road. That-which-has-come = that'which'has'come.

I don't think that it's a glottal stop, since I can't pronounce glottal stops there. :/ Sure, if it were Cho'Ath, I could, but the extra consonant makes things hard.

Ah kennings and the Norns....

GreenLore1 votes

I think in the case of the sai part of the desert it is actually possible that the region was named after the Xer'sai and not the other way around.

Which would make sense otherwise it would be quite the coincidence that the xer'sai only live in the sai desert,but this way they would define what belongs to the sai-region based on the territory of the Xer'sai

Ulric Greatsword1 votes

But they don't communicate at all that we can tell. It's more likely that the Xer'Sai are named after the region than the other way around (especially when you consider that one of those apostrophated words is a species of goat). Though it begs the question: why don't other Shuriman names suffer from overapostrophacation as well? Why isn't it A'zir or Nas'sus? It seems to me like an oversight from narrative.

GreenLore1 votes

well that one could be seen as a way to make it not too confusing for us. If the shurimans would use a different name it'd be weird for us,it is like aliens speaking english in sci-fi-movies.

Or maybe Shurima had contact with another void creature who did know the real name of the Xer'sai and who could talk and they learned the name from that creature?(the name of the goats could have been influenced by that as well)

Or or the shurimans did name the Xer'sai like you said(because honestly,that would actually make the most sense in real life),but then when the Xer'sai became a bigger and bigger threat(literally in Rek'sais case),they renamed the region in which they live after them.

Dreamspitter1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ulric Greatsword,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=vxnEVucE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2014-12-13T02:06:03.532+0000) Though it begs the question: why don't other Shuriman names suffer from overapostrophacation as well? Why isn't it A'zir or Nas'sus? It seems to me like an oversight from narrative.

Depends on what those names actually mean, such as single words or concepts.

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