Ekko & Jinx? Speculation...

Dreamspitter··6 votes·11,615 views

Screenshots from the Ekko teaser video: http://i.imgur.com/6ws0Uw3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EiwrsZO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vy67hcy.jpg

From what Red's have said, the person he's fighting is a "Zaunite thug", so it's clear he's in Zaun....unless he's really in the underbelly of Piltover and has Zaunite gangers after him. Jinx is from Zaun.

Now...there is a long, blue haired girl in the mural. She bears some passing resemblance to Jinx . Jinx This painting is more cartoony and simply done compared to the (relatively) photo-realistic one's in the center. I dont know whether they were all painted by the same artist -if so it could represent an evolving talent.

Who are the characters in it? There's some writing there too, but I can't make it out BUT based on the many candles kept burning it looks like a way to honor the fallen. With that said, one could say "It's not Jinx, because we know she's alive."

#Or.......IS she?

Now remember the big retcon? Because game and story are separate now, characters like Graves TwistedFate and Nasus Renekton can kill each other now in the ongoing "plot" ....but the game will stay the same because it doesnt represent the "current" living cast of the game, as it did when the League existed as an organization and all characters were contemporaneous. The status of a lot of things is sort of up in the air.

Then again, it could be metaphorical. Jinx as we know her, was probably not how she always was. What if he knew her before she became insane?

16 Comments

Hupsis2 votes

I don't think Riot would kill any of the existing champions in the lore even though lore and gameplay aren't linked. Well... except if they somehow brought them back to life later. We'll just have to wait and see if it's Jinx or not.

How I think of the world: The "real" world (Valoran/Runeterra) has lore which is gradually being told to us. It may include a lot of radical events which do not affect the game itself. The game world (League of Legends) is created by the summoners based on the "real" world. They recreate important charactes as their own pawns with their individual rules (skill sets) to be played. So the champions you are playing are not really the original characters but just avatars based on them.

At least that would make some sense. I dunno if Riot has some kind of more interesting explanation if they are ever gonna tell us.

Alljoy1 votes

It could be the future.

And Ekko somehow time travels back to the current Runeterra we play in, though it's really hard to make any sort of assumption considering they retconned all the lore.

thePandev1 votes

Sorry if this is a noob question, but can someone explain what retconning means AND what it did to the lore?

Dreamspitter2 votes

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Sorry if this is a noob question, but can someone explain what retconning means AND what it did to the lore?

#First result google search:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short,[1][2] is the alteration of previously established facts in the continuity of a fictional work.[3]

There are various motivations for retconning. The changes may occur to accommodate sequels or derivative works, allowing newer authors or creators to revise the diegetic (in-story) history to include a course of events that would not have been possible in the story's original continuity. Retcons allow for authors to reintroduce popular characters and resolve errors in chronology.

Retcons are common in pulp fiction, especially in comic books published by long-established publishers such as DC and Marvel. The long history of popular titles and the number of writers who contribute stories can often create situations that demand clarification or revision. Retcons also appear in manga, soap operas, serial dramas, movie sequels, professional wrestling angles, video games, radio series, and other forms of serial fiction.

#Flashback to last September:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/dev-blog-exploring-runeterra

It removed the League of Legends, most significantly and also decoupled gameplay from "story telling" altogether.

thePandev5 votes

{quoted}

#First result google search:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

#Flashback to last September:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/dev-blog-exploring-runeterra

It removed the League of Legends, most significantly and also decoupled gameplay from "story telling" altogether.

What. The. Fuck.

So basically, they decided to say ''fuck this shit we can't think of shit to make up anymore'' and decided to destroy a legacy worth of lore.

Sigh. Lore was a huge ass part of LoL. Who the hell will care about lore when it isn't really even LoL anymore?

Chromatic Eagle7 votes

Hi. It's always tragic to hear new people learning about the retcon, but welcome to what many fans have felt for the past....8 months now?

Sythriel Draken1 votes

My theory is that it is (my baby)Jinx but, the younger version of her. This is my theory on him. He's one of the kids that were experimented on, with him being the only successful subject for chronoton(time) research. This caused him to go into the future to see what all had happened in all the lands and when he was able to become stronger and master his ability to travel in time (probably through zilian) he decided to come back and try and prevent some major disaster from happening. He still remembers his friends and maybe that room was where they all stayed, (vi, jinx, ekko, etc) and so it holds special meaning towards him, but he was caught by the brute being sent by someone to try and keep the bad future that he's seen/comes from intact..

Hopefully we'll get some more solid info this week as I'm really excited and already prepped my wallet to pick up the ekko bundle when he's released :D

Puri Puri Taric1 votes

Its taric b4 he was fabulous.

Stars Shaper1 votes

I guess that Jinx had a mental brakedown at some sort of incident concerning her and Ekko's mutual friend/s, she caused a big ruckus and supposedly died while in fact she reached Piltover to destroy things.

Kalista Did I hear.. Vengeance?

Jinx Oh cool another gal who talks to her weapon... Why dont you ask her spear out Sharky?

Rabid Husky1 votes

i dunno about all this experimenting but riot said they wernt in the same gang but they are aware of each other i like to think that thats jinx before she was insane before vi lost her memory and i also think its why she went insaine now bare with me

vi and jinx were atleast friends people think their sisters but maybe its not blood sistership but they were really close vi eventually did her thing and lost her memory and started helping piltover jinx like ekko is extremely loyal to zuan but loosing her sister drove her crazy and she blamed piltover for loosing vi hence why she keeps messing with cait and vi its possible

jinx has seen some shiz and having vi not reconise her and loosing her made her snap thats why shes hell bent on destroying piltover and messing with cait and vi so hard she thinks cait stole her and destroying piltover will bring her back in a sadistic sorta way and someone else a 3rd person knew that vi was still around she was sane not lost since im sure a giant gauntlet weilding cop has got to make news in civilized areas like noxus bildgewater and zuan while jinx is gone she lost her mind she isnt coming back she took a step over the edge or even she went underground noone saw her so they assumed she went missing

point is even with the retconn and basicly screwing all the lore so far (can riot please reform the lore staff seriously unless there making less than slaves cuz i like more than a breif summery of the character and can we get like a relationship tree or somethin cuz im tired of literaly digging through years and years of forums promotions and wikis to find one champs lore) they still are keeping some of the bread crumbs they left

1011001110001 votes

Vi did her thing and lost her memory.

Jinx has seen some shiz.

You're about as vague as Riot.

Btw everything you wrote down was speculation. I'd "bear with you" if any of this was based on ANY solid evidence.

Rabid Husky1 votes

everyone says jinx was experimented on right and vi lost her memory i just see it literaly plastered everywhere when they talk about this group and jinx and its obvious jinx has seen some kinda shit shes insaine after all ya dont want it pg fine and its speculation obviously this whole page is speculation for all i know thats not jinx on the wall its just a girl but hey not like this page isnt a discussion on speculation congrats your the guy who instead of going with the forum you decide hey this is a random guy he doesnt work at riot let me point out this one guys theory of all the others

im vague cuz i dont work at riot im not workin on lore im makeing it up its my theory whats yours gimme your sources NO speculation no geussing all fact lets go wanna poke at my theory wich i never said is fact its all based on everything ive seen lets see yours

1011001110001 votes

Alright, first of all, who the hell is "everybody"? Everything that I've seen plastered all over these boards is just SPECULATION trying to tie in Jinx, Ekko, and Vi out of the faintest of threads. I can barely even understand the desire to connect these champions, simply because of Ekko's taunts towards the two, but don't go touting it as marked fact when all we even know is that Ekko knew the two, and nothing beyond that. For all anyone knows, they all probably just met up at some thrift shop and hung out.

And as for your attacks on, me, I'll go in order:

  1. This thread is speculating the meaning of the mural. Your theory has absolutely NOTHING to do as to why Jinx might be on that wall. We damn well know why goggles kid is on it, but the lack of source for any other child on that wall means the only precedent is that every character on that wall is dead, League champion or not. A) If Jinx IS on that wall, why the hell is she on the wall? Are we going to find out that champions have actually DIED? You fail to discuss this point en masse throughout your entire post.

  2. Your theory isn't random, but every other postulation of "experimentation" and the relationship between the three is FAR more substantial than anything you said. I'm bashing the vagueness of your post, because for a theory, you leave out so many details that would even hint yours is so much different from anyone else's that has the same exact premise.

  3. I have no theory on this. I think everybody's trying to link Vi to this and are trying to pull it out of Ekko's taunts towards her, which are by far the MOST substantial lore development for any champion so far that isn't Ekko. I honestly believe Riot is just going to drop any more lore development considering their track record with lore stories (hint hint, Skarner and Ezreal have the dinkiest lores around). I barely even expect them to expand on Ekko and Jinx's relationship, since it has much more to develop on than Vi.

Drackolus1 votes

I do like the idea of Jinx's death being metaphorical. Maybe the traumatic event that wiped Vi's memory scattered Jinx's brains? If they're sisters, of course. I was really skeptical about Ekko's taunt being anything more than that - he really doesn't sound at all remorseful, he's just making fun of her. The mural is making me reconsider. directly from the comic: http://s.lolstatic.com/site/ekko-comic/40e33807efa5d47a5622de0b2ea4c7d3138e4e99/issue/01/pages/en_US/21/21_1.jpg

SereneSykes1 votes

Idk I just tied them together because on his page it says that jinx and vi are allied to him and as one of his taunts says in game "I use to have a crush, until she started talking to the gun" automatically leads me to believe he lovesld jinx before she went insane.....

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