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Lux's new lore really resonated with me!

Seraphic Chicken··11 votes·7,423 views

Between:

  • the obvious metaphor of her magic and living in a place that is hateful and intolerant towards people like her
  • struggling with self hatred until she learns to love, accept and value herself
  • having to hide her true self among her family even when it's an open secret
  • the way her family knows but pretends it isn't happening out of shame and disgust
  • her "deep bond" with Kahina
  • being able to be herself when she is on missions away from Demacian society(alongside Kahina!!)
  • the retconning of her relationship with Ezreal(or at least, the rumors of a relationship)

I am reading a LOT of lesbian subtext in her new lore and I LOVE IT!! It makes me really happy that I can see these stories and make those connections based on my own experiences as a lesbian and it makes me really happy that her narrative can be interpreted this way. Some parts of the stories she was in actually made me cry!! I would really love to see this theme explored more explicitly and in-depth in future stories. I don't really expect Riot to go further with this considering their track record, which mostly consists of implying that a character is gay as a joke, such as in this news post where Leona swoons over Miss Fortune, or the armor of the 5th age Taric splash where he's checking out Ezreal, but I can dream!!

I really loved this update because of the personal connection I felt to Lux through her stories and I want to say thank you to the lore team for putting so much soul into it! You guys did a really great job and because of it I can view one of my favorite characters in a new light(haha) that makes her even more meaningful to me than she already was.

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RiotRiotJaredan7 votes

Hi, Dolljointed!

I can't tell you how happy this makes me (and I know how happy the principal writer on the piece will be). I'll make sure he sees this thread. Thank you very much for sharing.

And I hope we can exceed the understandable expectations you mention. I'm pretty confident we can.

EDIT: Just made sure before I said so, but the principal writer on Lux's bio and color text was Graham "Dinopawz" McNeill.

Seraphic Chicken1 votes

OMG PLEASE... teasing like that is going to kill me,,

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond!! I got very emotional reading that last part so I'll hold you to it!!

patmax171 votes

IIRC ghostcrawler more or less confirmed that the next champ is LGBT, I'm looking forward to that :D

Seraphic Chicken1 votes

Sure and that's great but I'm talking about Lux specifically

Placentas1 votes

Where did they say this? Sauce?

patmax171 votes

If i understand it correctly, in a recent interview he said that an LGBT champion will definitely come to league sooner or later. Then this popped up on his tumblr, but I see I misread it: it doesn't say it's the next champ.

Still, fingers crossed and waiting, sorry for the confusion ^^

IcyPepper2 votes

... I read it, and it saddens me.

But please notice the part of the interview where I said that you have to weigh doing what is right with what is right for players. Malaysia isn’t allowing the new Beauty and the Beast movie. I applaud Disney for doing the right thing, but at the same time, that means a lot of people in Malaysia aren’t going to be able to see the movie. (And it’s arguably easier to see a movie you “aren’t supposed” to see than to play a game you “aren’t supposed” to play.)

If I'm reading between the lines right, they can't outright confirm whether a champion is LGBT because of places like Malaysia--even if they see it as the right thing to do, they won't do it because it means removing access to the game for players who live in areas like Malaysia. They want to, and I'm sure they will imply the hell out of a champion who is gay whenever they can find a chance, but they will have to keep their official statements completely clean of the matter.

I can see their point, they don't want to penalize players who happen to live in less than tolerant areas, as those players don't necessarily represent their respective governments (I, for instance, do not endorse President Trump's views on several issues). It's a hard decision, and it sucks, but they've been a player-focused company.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but ultimately they're a company rather than an individual. They're doing what they can (goddamn that Lux lore), but they can't illuminate the entire world--and moving too quickly will only silence their voice in some places of the world. If it were me, I'd do it and portray a realistic gay character (camp or no camp, I don't really care. Gay people are as different and variety as the rest of everyone else) and have at it, but I am not Riot. I can respect Riot's decision, but I can't help but feel sad either way. I appreciate what they're doing and what they've done, but I'm only human and I feel kind of disappointed they can't go the full mile even if I understand why they can't/won't.

patmax173 votes

I think this is a very lucid and sensible analysis. I still hope Riot finds a way to do justice to an LGBT character in league (they want it and they have skilled employees), but I see what the difficulties can be (see Graves).

Now I'm curious to see what happened with Tracer and Overwatch around the globe

IcyPepper1 votes

To lighten things up, here's something for your viewing pleasure (the music makes it even better, btw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E83CtWFkQW0

patmax171 votes

Apparently, Blizzard decided not to release the comic in Russia, as to avoid increasing OW's rating to 18+ https://mic.com/articles/162929/overwatch-reflections-comic-blizzard-blocks-comic-in-russia-over-tracer-s-same-sex-kiss#.pxhaxli7B

That's possibile with a piece of lore, but I guess it would be difficult to do with a champion... Maybe have a different voiceover in "problematic" countries with all LGBT references removed? Just wondering...

midnight oil241 votes

Russia banned the comic, that's what happened.

patmax171 votes

not exatcly, as far as I could tell after a few google searches, it looked like that at first, but then Blizzards said they themselves decided not to publish it in Russia

Fasmodey2 votes

{quoted}

... I read it, and it saddens me.

If I'm reading between the lines right, they can't outright confirm whether a champion is LGBT because of places like Malaysia--even if they see it as the right thing to do, they won't do it because it means removing access to the game for players who live in areas like Malaysia. They want to, and I'm sure they will imply the hell out of a champion who is gay whenever they can find a chance, but they will have to keep their official statements completely clean of the matter.

I can see their point, they don't want to penalize players who happen to live in less than tolerant areas, as those players don't necessarily represent their respective governments (I, for instance, do not endorse President Trump's views on several issues). It's a hard decision, and it sucks, but they've been a player-focused company.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but ultimately they're a company rather than an individual. They're doing what they can (goddamn that Lux lore), but they can't illuminate the entire world--and moving too quickly will only silence their voice in some places of the world. If it were me, I'd do it and portray a realistic gay character (camp or no camp, I don't really care. Gay people are as different and variety as the rest of everyone else) and have at it, but I am not Riot. I can respect Riot's decision, but I can't help but feel sad either way. I appreciate what they're doing and what they've done, but I'm only human and I feel kind of disappointed they can't go the full mile even if I understand why they can't/won't.

They actually can. Story and Game are seperated. That's why Trace's sexuality did not have any problem for Blizzard rather than not being able to release it in Russia. In game, Trace does not kiss his girlfriend in the end.

It is possible. And eventually an LGBT character will be confirmed.

midnight oil241 votes

Jaredan did reply to one of my comments and said that there will be champs in LGBT relationships.

IcyPepper1 votes

Maybe you're right. Overwatch and League of Legends are owned by different companies, with different owners, though. Just because something worked for one doesn't mean it always can :/

Remember Tencent exists too. Game and story might be separate, but they're owned by the same people.

We can hope, but there's always the possibility of being disappointed.

Fasmodey1 votes

{quoted}

Maybe you're right. Overwatch and League of Legends are owned by different companies, with different owners, though. Just because something worked for one doesn't mean it always can :/

Remember Tencent exists too. Game and story might be separate, but they're owned by the same people.

We can hope, but there's always the possibility of being disappointed.

Well they already confirmed they will eventually release an LGBT champion though.

It probably (I mean, high high high likely) will not be ''fucking in the bed like there is no tomorrow'' story but It will be hinted strongly and no one will deny that this champion/s is/are at least bi.

They may specifically confirm the sexuality like Blizzard did for Tracer too. But I don't think so. They probably will leave the bi potential like rest of the champions.

Rioters wouldn't talk about a case that they are not sure. Jaredan said '' I'm pretty confident on that we will release an LGBT champion in the future.'' (Something similar).

Also this (click):

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/61tf1z/ama_were_the_rioters_behind_demacias_stories_and/dfh69m3/

patmax171 votes
mr Boombastic7871 votes

Luxannas lore is now one of my favorites!

I love her story and bio but the best part was the "For Demacia" story! I really like how Demacian Justice isn't perfect. How Garen could execute the guy who killed his family that was clearly possesed and then don't care why he did it. That is why Lux is my favorit part of Demacia. She is not blinded by Demacian Justice. She is in a juging society that don't like people like her. Surounded by people who could just outright execute someone without even investigating what truely happened. I bet Garen would even kill that boy that had the demon in him. I don't say that the rest of Demacia and Garen is bad, it just makes for an interesting story. I really like the Demacia event so far. I've only read the crowngaurd part.

The way you told us about the demon and teasing that it was Nocturne was very clewer. I didn't get it until I saw it on the boards. It was not obvious but it still makes so much sense. Even though it is not confirmed every description of the nightmare-man was on point for Nocturne. I mean he is such a great villain in that story. He was almost as good as Gangplank in Burning Tides! If it's not Nocturne then you should consider making it Nocturne, because that demon does everything Nocturne is supposed to do in the best way possible.

Thanks for the great storys! Cant wait to have read them all. Especially the one with Galio and Lux!

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

The way you told us about the demon and teasing that it was Nocturne was very clewer. I didn't get it until I saw it on the boards. It was not obvious but it still makes so much sense. Even though it is not confirmed every description of the nightmare-man was on point for Nocturne. I mean he is such a great villain in that story. He was almost as good as Gangplank in Burning Tides! If it's not Nocturne then you should consider making it Nocturne, because that demon does everything Nocturne is supposed to do in the best way possible.

This so much. A lore revamp is what Noc desperately needs right now, and this is the perfect direction in which to take him.

mr Boombastic7871 votes

Yes, I totally agree. In his bio they could tell us more about his encounter with Luxs and Garens great grandfather and how he survived. (I think it was their great grandfather) He was obviosly the villain of the story but that story was really eye opening. For me Garen felt as the villain allthough Nocturn/the demon was the true villain.

Placentas2 votes

Please do give him much love from us.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Eh, I don't see it.

You don't know how old Kahina is in this story. For all you know she could be old enough to be Lux's mother. She is the one that was tasked to mentor her after all.

Not to mention they already made an metaphor between magic and being gay, it would be redundant to make an allegory AND actually push this.

Plus Riot has no issue with outright stating a character's orientation, as it's been done before. Personally I think you're reading too much into this, as close friendships between two people of the same sex are very possible. But if it resonates with you, then gj, the writing did its main work.

EDIT: Almost forgot, the retcon of the Ez X Lux ship was because it didn't make sense with the new lore. How on earth is Lux going to be anywhere near Piltover where Ez hangs out? Even though Ez travels, the likelyhood of them crossing paths is slim to none. That's why they retconned it.

midnight oil243 votes

When did they state a character's orientation?

And yes, it's possible for two people of the same sex to be friends. Just like it's very possible for tow people of other sexes to be friends. Yet if Kahina was male, I guarantee you everyone would be pushing for it.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Several recent short stories. Minor and major characters in said stories have their orientations alluded to enough to draw the blanks. None were champions, but it's a similar concept.

I doubt that. The only reason this is even fussed about is because Lux got a female mentor, the text says "deep bond", and the mentor is female. If anything you only see the push when it's two of the same sex.

midnight oil241 votes

Oh, I thought you meant a champ. Yeah, I've seen that in the short stories. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

Also I don't hate demacia as much now. Though Noxus is still better.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

You know, what I don't even care anymore.

You can have your bloody Noxus.

I'll have my Demacia. :D

midnight oil241 votes

Hey, I'm fine with galio and Lux, and Quinn. I do kind of miss the full-on rager aspects of Shyv's personality, but I'll just tell myself it's because she's just concealing her constant anger.

There's more than just lgbt representation, you know ;)

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well yeah, that's obvious. But that's just all that people bloody talk about when it comes to Lux's lore. Either that or stabbing another knife into the Ez and Lux shippers.

We got some nice "is Vayne a psycho" threads and even got a monument thread for Frey. Garen got some discussion, and Galio's still a hot topic, I'm just glad the boards spread the attention around.

midnight oil241 votes

I'm fine with the knives.

I was referring more to representation fo people with anger issues tho. It seems stupid, but really only Shyv had the let your rage out" gameplay I was looking for.

I'm kind of an angry person irl.

Seraphic Chicken1 votes

You also don't know enough to speculate that Lux and Kahina aren't dating and the other stuff only serves to strengthen the possibility that they are. It's not being redundant, it's just backing up the possibility in more ways than one. Right now there's absolutely no reason that Lux couldn't be gay and it seems to me that there's no reason for you to bother trying to dispel the possibility unless you had a personal investment in Lux not being gay.

Also side characters in side stories really doesn't count as anything more than crumbs and I feel like it's pretty disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

midnight oil241 votes

He does. He loves Lux x Ez.

He's also not really pro-lgbt, as I learned the hard way.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Ah, but you don't know enough to speculate that Lux and Kahina are.

The thing with limited facts is that people will use them to support their claims and beliefs on a certain topic.

Edit: plus that confirmation would screw over my ships, so I'm not keen to believe that's where they are going.

EROTIC RAID BOSS2 votes

at least we know for certain lux x ezreal is not a thing

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I suppose. Rip my favorite ship.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

We see Freya and Vayne develop a bond with one another, but that was in the context of mother/daughter, which ended poorly. Twisted Fate and Graves arguably have a more dynamic (if toxic) bond, and they could range from being gay, brothers, partners, or best friends.

In the old lore, Lux was in a probable relationship with Ezreal, which while Riot never developed, they never broke it until years later. Most other characters were never stated to have an orientation, so if Riot ever decided to make them gay, it wouldn't result in much "unexpected" controversy.

Placentas1 votes

More so, it shouldn't result in much "unexpected" controversy, but alas, we know there will be people who take it level 1000 in being offended by anything not within their box of ideas.

Good point on relationships though, especially TF & Graves. For some reason a lot of people don't seem to understand there are many layers and dynamics to a relationship between two people. Lovers can have a brotherly bond but not view one another as siblings, mothers and daughters can be best friends but still have the mother child relationship.

Solidair33 votes

Agreed! I will say that being gay and being able to fire off intense deadly light lasers are very very different, but I also appreciated the LGBT-stigma-like subtext within the borders prim and proper Demacia where being different is not valued.

A very heartwarming message.

But at this point I just want to see some more legitimate proof at an LGBT presence within the roster and less metaphor.

Placentas3 votes

I mean...being gay enabled me to be able to fire off intense deadly light lasers, specifically rainbows. You didn't unlock those yet?

Solidair32 votes

I'm working on it and I'm VERY sensitive about it!!!

Nylisa1 votes

can you please explain a little more as in why you see such subtext in her story?

Placentas10 votes

I don't think OP is stating Lux is a lesbian, but her story is very familiar and has been lived by many lesbians in the real world. You pretty much just have to replace magic with gay.

Many LGBTQ people are not accepted by the people they live with/are around whether it's family, school, work etc. Often times wishing they lived somewhere they could be accepted. I.e Someone from a country where gays are killed for being gay wishing they could live in America where it is more accepted. Lux states in her story that she wishes she lived somewhere that magic was accepted or even revered.

In some cultures, bis/gays/etc were/are seen as special such as some native american tribes seeing trans/bis as two-spirit people who encompass the spirit of both a male and female.

Also the part with experimental practices and procedures to "cure" the magic, that's all too real for many people who are LGBTQ. Shock therapy, boot camps where they're told to hate themselves, some sick forms of therapy, it goes on.

Seraphic Chicken2 votes

Exactly! That and her relationship with Kahina and the retcon of her relationship with Ezreal all come together in a very obvious way imo.

midnight oil242 votes

Sink that Ez ship!

midnight oil242 votes

So true. My parents pretty much brushed off me being trans. Then my dad started using more terms that apply only to boys (my biological gender) towards me.

So it felt good to see Lux being accepted at least by Galio.

Seraphic Chicken4 votes

Certainly! I feel like I did a pretty good job summarizing why in the op though... I gave seven different points to support my reading and explained that I relate to the story because of my own experiences as a lesbian.

Anyway just to expand further on this, the entire narrative about hiding an integral part of who you are in a society that hates it and is disgusted by it can very easily be read as a metaphor for being gay. This is a narrative that in real life commonly applies to being gay. The similarities are fairly obvious: being forced to hide an aspect of yourself because you will be shamed or even hurt by the people around you, a family that tries to turn a blind eye and pretend like nothing is happening because other people learning about her would bring shame to their family, even the presence of "professionals" who would "fix" her "affliction". All of this contributes to Lux feeling like there is something wrong with her and starting to hate herself. These are all concepts and experiences that are very familiar and sadly relatable to many gay people, myself included.

Having established that it's possible to read Demacia's treatment of magic and mages as an allegory for homophobia, we can move on to Kahina. Kahina is established as a female knight that Lux meets and becomes friends with. In between her obligations to her family to attend public events and be visible in Demacian society, she spends her time with Kahina and their relationship develops into a "deep bond" with each other. This can absolutely be interpreted as a romantic relationship. There's also an interesting separation in the story here with Lux's obligations as a highly visible Demacian noble vs the person that it seems she would rather be spending time with. To add on to this, it's stated that Lux keeps her magic hidden while she is with her family, but can be herself when she is away on missions for the organization that Kahina recruited her into. So she can only be herself when she's with Kahina... who is also the first person that did not shame her or threaten her or make her feel unsafe or bad about being a mage.

Finally, the one thing that could get in the way of this reading would be if Lux was in a relationship with a man, and for a long time there were hints at a relationship between Lux and Ezreal. However, this update also sunk that ship, with a voiceline that makes it clear that not only are Lux and Ezreal not dating, but they've never even spoken! This change, in combination with the rest of Lux's lore update, seems like a deliberate move to me and it leaves the possibility of Lux being a lesbian wide open when considered along with everything above.

I hope this was a more sufficiently detailed explanation of my theory! Before I made the original post I was very excited and talked to a lot of people about this, and they all agreed that it's a plausible thing to take away from her story. I also know that I'm not the only person to reach this conclusion independently.

Nylisa2 votes

thanks for taking the time to give me such a thorough explanation , really appreciate it.

i see your point and agree with it , i'm just like you and i live in Russia...!!! so you probably can see why i would understand your point regarding hiding such things!

but the thing is i didn't like the way they went out of their way to sink Ez x lux ship, the method they used i mean. i didn't agree with the ship myself but putting such voice lines in the game in order to state their point was kinda strange to me. couldn't they simply remove Ez from her related champions list?wouldn't that suffice?

Seraphic Chicken3 votes

I'm from Russia too! I came to America as a baby tho.

I think that if they hadn't been so direct about it, then it would have been left up in the air and people would have insisted that it could still be a thing. The fact that they chose to be so deliberate about it gives me hope that this is the direction they're heading with Lux.

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